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2016 Discussion

Same shit different year.--AnActualAK47 (talk) 19:34, 31 December 2015 (EST)

Need help to ID the revolver

I'm sorry, I have some request: may somebody help me to ID this revolver:

RWC rv3.jpg

--Slon95 (talk) 12:52, 3 January 2016 (EST)

The overall shape and half underlug makes me think a S&W. Can't tell if the rod is shrouded or not, but it looks to be about the size of a K-frame. It has the lower profile sight and what looks to be a bull barrel, so if it is a S&W, it's either a Model 10HB or a Model 13 (more likely the former). But that's really a guess mostly, honestly can't tell much from that image. StanTheMan (talk) 02:21, 4 January 2016 (EST)

Weapons ID

I'm sorry, I have some request: may somebody help me to ID this weapons

A Pistol:

Plastic Little pistol 1.jpg
Plastic Little pistol 2.jpg

A Submachine gun (I think, that's the same submachine gun, but it's may be different): Pyramid Silent (talk) 07:05, 5 January 2016 (EST)

Plastic Little SMG 1.jpg
Plastic Little SMG 2.jpg
Plastic Little SMG 3.jpg
Plastic Little SMG 4.jpg
Plastic Little SMG 5.jpg
Plastic Little SMG 6.jpg
Plastic Little SMG 7.jpg
Plastic Little SMG 8.jpg
Plastic Little SMG 9.jpg
Plastic Little SMG 10.jpg

Help me identify the pistol and assault rifle


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Anime name: Pandora in the Crimson Shell: Ghost Urn

The rifle appears to be an AN-94. --Funkychinaman (talk) 07:21, 9 January 2016 (EST)
Definitely an AN-94. As for the pistol, I could only say it looks similar to the SIG-Sauer P226.

Russian flag

I don't know, is this important or not, but Russian flag between 1991 and 1993 was another, differ than current: Pyramid Silent (talk) 16:13, 12 January 2016 (EST)

Former Russian flag (1991-1993).

Current Russian flag (since 1993).
The first flag wasn't approved officially. Let's use the one that is best known. Greg-Z (talk) 16:32, 12 January 2016 (EST) Please ignore my remark as I don't want to start a discussion. Greg-Z (talk) 02:18, 13 January 2016 (EST)
Any context to this?--AnActualAK47 (talk) 16:33, 12 January 2016 (EST)
According to wikipedia, "Official Flag of the Russian Federation from 25 December 1991 to 11 December 1993, when it was replaced by the present version." But I'll defer to the Russians here to figure this out. --Funkychinaman (talk) 17:06, 12 January 2016 (EST)
I would like to avoid any discussion on this theme, except the only remark: if we would take in accout each and every change in state insignias, then we have to use 48-star USA flag for pre-1959 movies. Is there any sence in it? Greg-Z (talk) 02:18, 13 January 2016 (EST)
Alright, that's fair point. --Funkychinaman (talk) 07:36, 13 January 2016 (EST)
Indeed. Or do we start using the Soviet flag for Russian films pre-1991? Etc. I don't really think this is all that important, and I agree with just sticking with the present-day national flags on the listings for the sake of simplicity. StanTheMan (talk) 13:12, 13 January 2016 (EST)
Sorry, I didn't thought that. Soviet flag also was changed at 1955. I agree - more commonly known flag are preferable. Pyramid Silent (talk) 13:22, 13 January 2016 (EST)
I probably got too into the flags thing, but I do think it's important to recognize different eras. Minor tweaks like different shades of blue shouldn't be that big a deal. --Funkychinaman (talk) 13:26, 13 January 2016 (EST)
Well it does mean we'll have to include other versions of flags as noted, Soviet flags for anything produced/filmed in USSR Russia, 48 star flags for US films pre-1959, and so forth. Seems like a good bit of extra work for negligible gain, though it is good to be thorough. Honestly, I'm ok either way. StanTheMan (talk) 00:31, 14 January 2016 (EST)
The Soviet-Produced category was created partly due to this, and also because it felt weird to put a Kazakh flag next to something made in the 60's. Like Greg said, if it's a minor variation, like number of stars or variation of color, leave it, if it's a change in government, go ahead. --Funkychinaman (talk) 07:20, 14 January 2016 (EST)
See the can of worms you create when you start making pages overly complicated? ;) MoviePropMaster2008 (talk) 21:57, 29 January 2016 (EST)

I need help to ID the firearms in my new page

I'm sorry, I have some request: may somebody check my ID in the anime Violence Jack and help me to ID the unknown guns? Thanks! Pyramid Silent (talk) 06:01, 21 January 2016 (EST)

The first:

Violence Jack HB SMG 1 2.jpg
Violence Jack HB SMG 1 3.jpg
Violence Jack HB SMG 1 4.jpg

The Second:

SMG with carrying handle at the left.
Violence Jack HB SMG 4 2.jpg
Violence Jack HB SMG 4 4.jpg
Violence Jack HB SMG 4 5.jpg

The third:

Violence Jack HB rifle.jpg

The fourth:

(mounted on the helicopter)

The SMGs in the first and second sets appear to take after TDI Vectors to me. StanTheMan (talk) 13:19, 21 January 2016 (EST)
I'm sorry, but it's imposible: TDI Vector was designet at 2006 and doesn't exist at 1986. Pyramid Silent (talk) 13:31, 21 January 2016 (EST)
Indeed. Ya got me, then. StanTheMan (talk) 00:14, 22 January 2016 (EST)

Bulletproof Mask

Season 10, Episode 19, 24 (2001).
Season 1, Episode 1, Hawaii Five-0 (2010).
Furious 7 (2015)

Does anyone know what these are? preferably providing a link to who makes them.--Thomas (talk) 15:46, 21 January 2016 (EST)

Googled it. --Funkychinaman (talk) 16:01, 21 January 2016 (EST)
They have been made by a few companies over the years, but my guess is that quite a few of the ones that you see in films/TV will not be real and will instead by Airsoft knock-offs. For example, the first one is an Airsoft mask made by Cactus Hobbies based on the masks from Army of Two. This goes for most armour in media, fake Airsoft stuff is cheaper, more easily available with no legal issues, lighter, and generally more comfortable. --commando552 (talk) 17:37, 21 January 2016 (EST)

Splitting article up?

Would like to ask anyone about splitting the Violence Jack article up since it has three different movies in it. Ominae (talk) 07:28, 22 January 2016 (EST)

Okay. --Funkychinaman (talk) 07:31, 22 January 2016 (EST)
I'll see if I can ask Pyramid about doing that or failing that, do it myself. Ominae (talk) 09:04, 22 January 2016 (EST)
This series contain three movie without overall plot (the only common character is Jack himself). But, the first movie lasts 40 minutes (40 min. 35 sec.), the second and third - both near one hour (1 h. 2 min. - second movie and 1 h. 1 min. - third movie). So, I dont know, how it's better to issue. Pyramid Silent (talk) 09:24, 22 January 2016 (EST)
I know the policy on short films, what's the policy on OVAs again? --Funkychinaman (talk) 10:15, 22 January 2016 (EST)
Maybe I was wrong, but I think, that's better keep the single page for all three OVAs, than create different pages for movies from one series. Pyramid Silent (talk) 10:54, 22 January 2016 (EST)
It makes more sense to keep them together if they're OVAs. Can you work with someone to write a summary for the page then? --Funkychinaman (talk) 11:20, 22 January 2016 (EST)
I'm sorry, I don't understand: should I write the short summary for each of three OVAs (each three sections)? Pyramid Silent (talk) 11:35, 22 January 2016 (EST)
Just something at the top explaining that the page is for a series of three OVAs. --Funkychinaman (talk) 11:54, 22 January 2016 (EST)
I add the summary. Maw do you think: is this page complite? Pyramid Silent (talk) 16:24, 22 January 2016 (EST)
I personally would separate on the basis that the article is too long to compile all of them together. But if no one raises an objection, then I shall stand aside. Ominae (talk) 20:28, 22 January 2016 (EST)

X-Files Pistol ID

Bah, after all this still seem to have just got something I missed, which I'm having a bit of trouble IDing, actually, hence this post - Some help, fellas? StanTheMan (talk) 16:07, 24 January 2016 (EST)

Colt Mustang Plus II? Pyramid Silent (talk) 16:40, 24 January 2016 (EST)
Its a Star Firestar, I believe the 9mm M-43 but not absolutely 100% sure about that last part. --commando552 (talk) 17:41, 24 January 2016 (EST)
Found an Image of a blued one to show it better:
Star Firestar M-43, blued finish - 9x19mm
--commando552 (talk) 18:09, 24 January 2016 (EST)
Ah, very good - thanks c552. Seems you don't see blued Firestars much which I guess is why I didn't think to check them. StanTheMan (talk) 23:54, 24 January 2016 (EST)

Question about Norinco Type 56

Hello all. Hopefully I am doing this correctly. I'm a new member and have never posted or edited anything before.

There seem to be two seperate rifles that are referred to as "Norinco Type 56". The first and most common is the Chinese version of the AK-47. I see this on multiple pages. The other seems to be a Chinese version of the SKS rifle built by Izhevsk Machinebuilding Plant a.k.a "Izhmash". Now, the only spot on the SKS page that actually calls the Chinese version the "Norinco Type 56" is the bottom image on the Talk page for the SKS. I did notices that it's full name appears to be "Norinco Type 56 Carbine" in that image. The images on the main page just label it as the "Chinese built Type 56".

I was wondering if anyone had any info or any opinions on the accuracy of this? It just seems odd that two different (though admittedly similar) rifles by the same manufacturer would have exactly the same name. Even considering the SKS rifle is labeled "carbine", and that makes the names technically different, still doesn't seem quite right. Is the Chinese Type 56 SKS built by Norinco? Are both rifles referred to as the "Type 56"?

Anyway, any info or advice is appreciated. Thanks.

I remembered this article, which gives some background. The reds also called their copy of the RPD the Type 56 as well. The SKS Type 56 was considered a carbine, and the AK Type was considered a submachine gun. It's not too different than the M1 Garand, M1 Carbine and M1 Thompson being in service at the same time I suppose. --Funkychinaman (talk) 07:28, 26 January 2016 (EST)
I believe that the Chinese AK, SKS and RPD variants were all introduced in 1956, hence the Type 56 designation. This is actually more sensible than other countries that reuse designations more randomly, for example the UK where L1A1 has referred to at least a rifle, a heavy machine gun, a grenade launcher, a rocket launcher, a bayonet, various fuses and detonators, a couple of grenades, and a tank gun, all from different years and with no particular relation between them. Also, on talk pages remember to sign your posts by either pressing the signature button at the top of the edit window, or by just typing in ~~~~. This way people can see who made the comment and when without looking through the edit history. --commando552 (talk) 08:35, 26 January 2016 (EST)

Hey thanks to both of you. I never thought about how it is basically the same with the "M1" name, but it makes perfect sense. Great article you linked to as well. I love stuff like that. And thanks for the advice on the signature thing... I was kinda wondering why my post was the only one with no user name or date at the end.--Kailin (talk) 09:55, 26 January 2016 (EST)

Is this pistol are Glock or not?

I'm sorry, I have some request: may somebody say is this pistol are Glock or not? The same character also holds M1911A1, but methinks, that this pistol has different shape, but maybe, I'm wrong. Pyramid Silent (talk) 16:08, 27 January 2016 (EST)

Where are you getting Glock from? --Funkychinaman (talk) 17:37, 27 January 2016 (EST)
Methinks, that shape a similar to glock. But, maybe, I'm wrong. What about CZ-75? Pyramid Silent (talk) 04:28, 28 January 2016 (EST)
Where are you getting CZ-75? --Funkychinaman (talk) 10:10, 28 January 2016 (EST)
Looks more like some TT-33, 1911 thing. Really, it could just be a generic pistol thing and not supposed to actually look like an actual gun. Me thinks it's the later.--AnActualAK47 (talk) 10:48, 28 January 2016 (EST)
I think, that TT ID is correct. Thanks! After close inspection, I see, that this pistol has completely another trigger, differ, than TT or M1911. I shall continue searching. Pyramid Silent (talk) 12:24, 28 January 2016 (EST)
"Really, it could just be a generic pistol thing and not supposed to actually look like an actual gun"^^^ Remember, this is anime not a real gun. It's just lines on a cel. --Funkychinaman (talk) 12:32, 28 January 2016 (EST)
Oni Tensei pistol 2 1.jpg
Oni Tensei pistol 2 2.jpg
Oni Tensei pistol 2 3.jpg

Need help to ID a pistol

A character in Wild Geese II holds a pistol that looks very much alike a Colt Commander but has an external extractor. What can it be? I start doubting that it's an extractor at all, as it appears to be too short in comparison with external extractors on Star M1911 style pistols. Thanks in advance! Greg-Z (talk) 15:46, 5 February 2016 (EST)

The best close view of the pistol.
The general view of the pistol.
Maybe a Llama of some sort? --Funkychinaman (talk) 16:23, 5 February 2016 (EST)
All images of Llama pistols that I could find show longer extractors that cross the slide serration, and none of them has a ring hammer spur. Greg-Z (talk) 16:35, 5 February 2016 (EST)

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