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{{Infobox Movie | {{Infobox Movie | ||
|name = ''Wild Geese II | |name = ''Wild Geese II | ||
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|caption = ''Theatrical Release Poster'' | |caption = ''Theatrical Release Poster'' | ||
|country = [[Image:UKD.jpg|25px]] UK<BR>[[Image:AUS.jpg|25px]] Australia | |country = [[Image:UKD.jpg|25px]] UK<BR>[[Image:AUS.jpg|25px]] Australia | ||
| − | |director = Peter R. Hunt | + | |director = [[Peter R. Hunt]] |
|date= 1985 | |date= 1985 | ||
| − | |language = | + | |language = English |
|studio=Frontier Films<BR>Thorn EMI Screen Entertainment | |studio=Frontier Films<BR>Thorn EMI Screen Entertainment | ||
|distributor= | |distributor= | ||
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| − | '''''Wild Geese II''''' is a 1985 British action thriller directed by Peter R. Hunt. A group of mercenaries, led by former Lebanese soldier John Haddad ([[Scott Glenn]]), is hired to rescue Rudolf Hess ([[Laurence Olivier]]), the only surviving leader of Nazi Germany from Spandau Prison in West Berlin. Several rival forces, including an East German-supported terrorist Karl Stroebling (Robert Freitag) and high-ranking British officer Reed-Henry ([[Kenneth Haigh]]), are interested in releasing Hess, so Haddad's task is especially complicated. | + | '''''Wild Geese II''''' is a 1985 British action thriller directed by Peter R. Hunt (''[[Death Hunt]]''). A group of mercenaries, led by former Lebanese soldier John Haddad ([[Scott Glenn]]), is hired to rescue Rudolf Hess ([[Laurence Olivier]]), the only surviving leader of Nazi Germany from Spandau Prison in West Berlin. Several rival forces, including an East German-supported terrorist Karl Stroebling (Robert Freitag) and high-ranking British officer Reed-Henry ([[Kenneth Haigh]]), are interested in releasing Hess, so Haddad's task is especially complicated. |
| − | This film was planned as a direct sequel to ''[[The Wild Geese]]'', with [[Richard Burton]] and [[Roger Moore]] reprising their roles from the original. | + | This film was planned as a direct sequel to ''[[The Wild Geese]]'', with [[Richard Burton]] and [[Roger Moore]] reprising their roles from the original. Roger Moore declined to participate due to his dislike of a script that depicted a Nazi War Criminal being rescued, [[Lewis Collins]] was initially hired but American distributors demanded an American co-lead and [[Scott Glenn]] replaced Collins. Richard Burton, who had been in ill health for some time and the script and prop sniper rifle had especially been altered to suit this, passed away at his home in Switzerland two days before shooting commenced in Berlin. Producer Euan Lloyd remembered a conversation with Burton where they discussed their admiration for the leading actor in [[The Day of the Jackal]], so Allen Faulkner's character was substituted with his younger brother Alex Faulkner ([[Edward Fox]]). As a result, ''Wild Geese II'' only has a passing relation to the original ''The Wild Geese''. |
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[[File:Wild Geese II-Enfield-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close view of the revolver.]] | [[File:Wild Geese II-Enfield-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close view of the revolver.]] | ||
| − | == Smith & Wesson Model 36== | + | == Smith & Wesson Model 36/Arminius HW-37 == |
| − | In several scenes, Stroebling's henchmen use snub nose revolvers that resemble the [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]]. | + | In several scenes, Stroebling's henchmen use snub nose revolvers that resemble the [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]]. As the movie was filmed in Germany, [[Arminius HW-37]] blank firing revolver, styled after S&W Model 36, is even more possible guess. |
[[Image:M36.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 36 - .38 Special]] | [[Image:M36.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 36 - .38 Special]] | ||
| + | [[File:Arminius HW37.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Arminius HW-37 - 9mm K blank firing]] | ||
[[File:Wild Geese II-Revolver-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A henchman fires his revolver. The heavy smoke hampers the proper identification of the gun.]] | [[File:Wild Geese II-Revolver-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A henchman fires his revolver. The heavy smoke hampers the proper identification of the gun.]] | ||
[[File:Wild Geese II-Revolver-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A revolver is seen next to dead henchman. This is likely a stunt prop replica.]] | [[File:Wild Geese II-Revolver-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A revolver is seen next to dead henchman. This is likely a stunt prop replica.]] | ||
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= Pistols = | = Pistols = | ||
== Faulkner's Rifle (Safari Arms M1911) == | == Faulkner's Rifle (Safari Arms M1911) == | ||
| − | Throughout the movie Alex Faulkner ([[Edward Fox]]) uses a suppressed sniper rifle. It appears to be a [[Safari Arms M1911]] pistol in 'Survivor' Rifle kit, fitted with a sniper scope and (obviously fake) | + | Throughout the movie Alex Faulkner ([[Edward Fox]]) uses a suppressed sniper rifle. It appears to be a [[Safari Arms M1911]] pistol in 'Survivor' Rifle kit, fitted with a sniper scope and (obviously fake) sound suppressor. The gun was provided by Don McNabb Sr., the founder of Safari Arms. This lightweight 'sniper rifle' was used because the film's original star, Richard Burton had recently had surgery on his spine and was struggling to hold objects. |
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[[File:SafariMatch.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Safari Arms Matchmaster with Wood Grips - .45 ACP]] | [[File:SafariMatch.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Safari Arms Matchmaster with Wood Grips - .45 ACP]] | ||
[[File:Safari Arms Survivial Rifle Kit.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Safari Arms 'Survivor' Rifle Kit]] | [[File:Safari Arms Survivial Rifle Kit.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Safari Arms 'Survivor' Rifle Kit]] | ||
| − | [[File:Wild Geese II-Faulkner Rifle-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The first appearance of Alex Faulkner with his sniper rifle.]] | + | [[File:Wild Geese II-Faulkner Rifle-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The first appearance of Alex Faulkner with his sniper rifle in a scene supposed to be depicting Munich but in fact shot in Berlin.]] |
[[File:Wild Geese II-Faulkner Rifle-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close view of the gun. T-shape side handle is seen.]] | [[File:Wild Geese II-Faulkner Rifle-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close view of the gun. T-shape side handle is seen.]] | ||
[[File:Wild Geese II-Faulkner Rifle-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The gun among other weapons and equipment.]] | [[File:Wild Geese II-Faulkner Rifle-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The gun among other weapons and equipment.]] | ||
| − | [[File:Wild Geese II-Faulkner Rifle-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good view of the suppressor.]] | + | [[File:Wild Geese II-Faulkner Rifle-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good view of the suppressor. This scene was performed by a stuntman as Edward Fox had yet to be cast when it was shot on the first day of principal photography in Berlin.]] |
| − | [[File:Wild Geese II-Faulkner Rifle-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Faulkner aims. The buttstock is seen.]] | + | [[File:Wild Geese II-Faulkner Rifle-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Faulkner aims. The buttstock is seen. Note the T-Bar cocking handle doesn't move indicating the actor is 'pretending' to shoot and the sound effect is added in post production.]] |
| + | [[File:85302 full.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Alex Faulkner ([[Edward Fox]]) holds his gun on a promotional image.]] | ||
== Heckler & Koch P7 == | == Heckler & Koch P7 == | ||
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[[File:Wild Geese II-Pistol-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|He fires at escaping Haddad.]] | [[File:Wild Geese II-Pistol-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|He fires at escaping Haddad.]] | ||
| − | == | + | == Reck Commander == |
| − | + | Stroebling's henchwoman ([[Ingrid Pitt]]), posing as a hooker, carries a pistol that looks mostly like a [[Colt Commander]] but has an external extractor. It appears to be blank firing [[Reck Commander]]. Reck Commanders are also seen in hands of other Stroebling's henchmen. | |
| − | + | [[File:Reck Commander.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Reck Commander - 8mmK blank firing]] | |
| − | + | [[File:Wild Geese II-M1911-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The henchwoman holds Haddad at gunpoint. The external extractor is seen.]] | |
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[[File:Wild Geese II-M1911-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The pistol on pavement.]] | [[File:Wild Geese II-M1911-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The pistol on pavement.]] | ||
[[File:Wild Geese II-M1911-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A henchman aims his pistol.]] | [[File:Wild Geese II-M1911-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A henchman aims his pistol.]] | ||
[[File:Wild Geese II-M1911-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A view from another side.]] | [[File:Wild Geese II-M1911-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A view from another side.]] | ||
[[File:Wild Geese II-Pistol-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Supposedly the same pistol (at least the grips look similar) is hold by Stroebling's driver ([[Dan van Husen]]).]] | [[File:Wild Geese II-Pistol-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Supposedly the same pistol (at least the grips look similar) is hold by Stroebling's driver ([[Dan van Husen]]).]] | ||
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| − | == | + | == M1911-style pistol == |
| − | + | Several [[M1911]]-style pistols are used throughout the film. Joseph ([[David Lumsden]]), one of Haddad's men, is seen with an [[M1911A1]]-style pistol in one scene. When Col. Reed-Henry ([[Kenneth Haigh]]) meets Soviet general and KGB high rank official ([[Michael Harbour]]), the latter takes a 1911-style pistol from Reed-Henry's holster | |
| − | [[ | + | [[File:Wild Geese II-M1911-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joseph holds a pistol at the background. It appears to be a standard length M1911 version, and it appears to have adjustable sights.]] |
| − | [[File:Wild Geese II- | + | [[File:Wild Geese II-Pistol-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reed-Henry's pistol in hands of KGB official.]] |
| + | [[File:Wild Geese II-Pistol-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another view of the same scene.]] | ||
| + | [[File:Wild Geese II-Pistol-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The grip is seen when the KGB official holds the pistol.]] | ||
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| + | == Unknown pistol == | ||
| + | [[File:Wild Geese II-Pistol-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pistol is seen in holster of a border guard officer in West Berlin-Tegel airport.]] | ||
= Submachine Guns = | = Submachine Guns = | ||
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[[File:Wild Geese II-Uzi-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reed-Henry with a suppressed Uzi.]] | [[File:Wild Geese II-Uzi-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reed-Henry with a suppressed Uzi.]] | ||
| − | == Sa | + | == Sa 25 == |
| − | An [[Sa | + | An [[Sa 25]] SMG is seen among the weapons, provided by Alex Faulkner. It isn't used by Haddad and his men. In one scene a Palestinian gunman, hunting for Haddad, is armed with an Sa.25. |
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| − | [[File:Wild Geese II-SA25-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Sa | + | [[File:Sa 25.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Sa 25 - 9x19mm]] |
| − | [[File:Wild Geese II-SA25-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Palestinian gunman holds an Sa | + | [[File:Wild Geese II-SA25-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Sa 25 is seen at the left.]] |
| + | [[File:Wild Geese II-SA25-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Palestinian gunman holds an Sa 25.]] | ||
[[File:Wild Geese II-SA25-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another view of the same scene.]] | [[File:Wild Geese II-SA25-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another view of the same scene.]] | ||
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[[File:Wild Geese II-Wild Geese-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mercenary in center holds a Sterling.]] | [[File:Wild Geese II-Wild Geese-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mercenary in center holds a Sterling.]] | ||
| − | = | + | = Rifles = |
== M16 Carbine == | == M16 Carbine == | ||
Some carbine version of [[M16 rifle series|M16]] is carried by an American MP guard in Spandau Prison. The telescoping stock is seen but the barrel is not, so it's hard to identify the exact model. [[Colt Model 653]] is a possible guess for mid-1980s. | Some carbine version of [[M16 rifle series|M16]] is carried by an American MP guard in Spandau Prison. The telescoping stock is seen but the barrel is not, so it's hard to identify the exact model. [[Colt Model 653]] is a possible guess for mid-1980s. | ||
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[[File:Wild Geese II-Wild Geese-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mercenary at the foreground holds an L1A1 with wooden stock.]] | [[File:Wild Geese II-Wild Geese-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mercenary at the foreground holds an L1A1 with wooden stock.]] | ||
| − | == FN | + | == FN FAL== |
| − | [[FN | + | [[FN FAL]] rifles are seen in footage from original ''[[The Wild Geese]]''. |
| − | [[ | + | [[File:FN-LAR-with-Wood-Stock.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN FAL with G1/StG 58 foreend and wooden buttstock - 7.62x51mm NATO. Note the folded bipod.]] |
| − | [[File:Wild Geese II-Wild Geese-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Col. Allen Faulkner ([[Richard Burton]]) holds an FN | + | [[File:Wild Geese II-Wild Geese-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Col. Allen Faulkner ([[Richard Burton]]) holds an FN FAL.]] |
== FN FAL 50.00 == | == FN FAL 50.00 == | ||
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[[File:Wild Geese II-Wild Geese-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Cuban military advisor fires an FN FAL.]] | [[File:Wild Geese II-Wild Geese-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Cuban military advisor fires an FN FAL.]] | ||
[[File:Wild Geese II-Wild Geese-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Simba fighter holds an FN FAL.]] | [[File:Wild Geese II-Wild Geese-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Simba fighter holds an FN FAL.]] | ||
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| − | = | + | == Sporter Mauser Rifle == |
| − | + | A hunter ([[Peter Kybart]]) in the Bavarian forest carries what appears to be a scoped [[Mauser Rifle Series|Mauser Sporter]]. | |
| − | + | [[Image:Mau 0571-01.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Oberndorf Mauser Sporter - 9x57mm]] | |
[[File:Wild Geese II-Rifle-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The hunter appears from the thicket.]] | [[File:Wild Geese II-Rifle-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The hunter appears from the thicket.]] | ||
| − | [[File:Wild Geese II-Rifle-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close view of the trigger.]] | + | [[File:Wild Geese II-Rifle-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close view of the double set trigger.]] |
| − | = Other | + | = Other = |
== Mk II Hand Grenade == | == Mk II Hand Grenade == | ||
Several [[Mk II Hand Grenade]]s are seen among the weapons, provided by Alex Faulkner. A grenade is used by Haddad ([[Scott Glenn]]) to break the door of Stroebling's hideout. A Mk II grenade is also seen in footage from original ''[[The Wild Geese]]''. | Several [[Mk II Hand Grenade]]s are seen among the weapons, provided by Alex Faulkner. A grenade is used by Haddad ([[Scott Glenn]]) to break the door of Stroebling's hideout. A Mk II grenade is also seen in footage from original ''[[The Wild Geese]]''. | ||
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[[Category:Thriller]] | [[Category:Thriller]] | ||
[[Category:British Produced/Filmed]] | [[Category:British Produced/Filmed]] | ||
| + | [[Category:Peter Hunt]] | ||
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Wild Geese II is a 1985 British action thriller directed by Peter R. Hunt (Death Hunt). A group of mercenaries, led by former Lebanese soldier John Haddad (Scott Glenn), is hired to rescue Rudolf Hess (Laurence Olivier), the only surviving leader of Nazi Germany from Spandau Prison in West Berlin. Several rival forces, including an East German-supported terrorist Karl Stroebling (Robert Freitag) and high-ranking British officer Reed-Henry (Kenneth Haigh), are interested in releasing Hess, so Haddad's task is especially complicated.
This film was planned as a direct sequel to The Wild Geese, with Richard Burton and Roger Moore reprising their roles from the original. Roger Moore declined to participate due to his dislike of a script that depicted a Nazi War Criminal being rescued, Lewis Collins was initially hired but American distributors demanded an American co-lead and Scott Glenn replaced Collins. Richard Burton, who had been in ill health for some time and the script and prop sniper rifle had especially been altered to suit this, passed away at his home in Switzerland two days before shooting commenced in Berlin. Producer Euan Lloyd remembered a conversation with Burton where they discussed their admiration for the leading actor in The Day of the Jackal, so Allen Faulkner's character was substituted with his younger brother Alex Faulkner (Edward Fox). As a result, Wild Geese II only has a passing relation to the original The Wild Geese.
The following weapons were used in the film Wild Geese II:
WARNING! THIS PAGE CONTAINS SPOILERS!
Revolvers
Enfield No.2 Mk.1*
Regimental Sergeant Major James Murphy (Paul Antrim), a warden in Spandau Prison, carries an Enfield No.2 Mk.1* revolver. Holsters for Enfield revolvers are seen on belts of real and fake British MPs but they appear to be empty.
Smith & Wesson Model 36/Arminius HW-37
In several scenes, Stroebling's henchmen use snub nose revolvers that resemble the Smith & Wesson Model 36. As the movie was filmed in Germany, Arminius HW-37 blank firing revolver, styled after S&W Model 36, is even more possible guess.
Pistols
Faulkner's Rifle (Safari Arms M1911)
Throughout the movie Alex Faulkner (Edward Fox) uses a suppressed sniper rifle. It appears to be a Safari Arms M1911 pistol in 'Survivor' Rifle kit, fitted with a sniper scope and (obviously fake) sound suppressor. The gun was provided by Don McNabb Sr., the founder of Safari Arms. This lightweight 'sniper rifle' was used because the film's original star, Richard Burton had recently had surgery on his spine and was struggling to hold objects.
Heckler & Koch P7
A Heckler & Koch P7 is John Haddad's (Scott Glenn) sidearm. In one scene he uses the pistol fitted with a sound suppressor.
Luger P08
Several of Stroebling's henchmen carry Luger P08 pistols.
Walther P38
While disguised as a British MP, Joseph (David Lumsden), one of Haddad's men, carries a Walther P38.
Walther PP
What appears to be a Walther PP is seen in hands of one of Stroebling's henchmen in the scene of Haddad's kidnapping.
Reck Commander
Stroebling's henchwoman (Ingrid Pitt), posing as a hooker, carries a pistol that looks mostly like a Colt Commander but has an external extractor. It appears to be blank firing Reck Commander. Reck Commanders are also seen in hands of other Stroebling's henchmen.
M1911-style pistol
Several M1911-style pistols are used throughout the film. Joseph (David Lumsden), one of Haddad's men, is seen with an M1911A1-style pistol in one scene. When Col. Reed-Henry (Kenneth Haigh) meets Soviet general and KGB high rank official (Michael Harbour), the latter takes a 1911-style pistol from Reed-Henry's holster
Unknown pistol
Submachine Guns
Uzi
Haddad (Scott Glenn) and Faulkner (Edward Fox) use Uzi SMGs in several scenes. Uzi are also seen in hands of Stroebling's henchmen. Reed-Henry (Kenneth Haigh) uses a suppressed Uzi. Uzi are also seen in footage from original The Wild Geese.
Sa 25
An Sa 25 SMG is seen among the weapons, provided by Alex Faulkner. It isn't used by Haddad and his men. In one scene a Palestinian gunman, hunting for Haddad, is armed with an Sa.25.
Madsen M50
Madsen M50 SMGs are seen in footage from original The Wild Geese.
Sterling L2A1
Sterling L2A1 SMGs are seen in footage from original The Wild Geese.
Rifles
M16 Carbine
Some carbine version of M16 is carried by an American MP guard in Spandau Prison. The telescoping stock is seen but the barrel is not, so it's hard to identify the exact model. Colt Model 653 is a possible guess for mid-1980s.
MGC M16
What appears to be MGC M16 non firing replica is carried by an American MP.
AKMS
An East German border guard holds an AKMS in the scene in Berlin-Schönefeld airport.
L1A1 SLR
L1A1 SLR rifles are seen in footage from original The Wild Geese.
FN FAL
FN FAL rifles are seen in footage from original The Wild Geese.
FN FAL 50.00
FN FAL 50.00 rifles are seen in footage from original The Wild Geese.
FN FAL 50.61
FN FAL 50.61 rifles are seen in footage from original The Wild Geese.
Sporter Mauser Rifle
A hunter (Peter Kybart) in the Bavarian forest carries what appears to be a scoped Mauser Sporter.
Other
Mk II Hand Grenade
Several Mk II Hand Grenades are seen among the weapons, provided by Alex Faulkner. A grenade is used by Haddad (Scott Glenn) to break the door of Stroebling's hideout. A Mk II grenade is also seen in footage from original The Wild Geese.
