Talk:John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum
A multitude of weapons were seen in an earlier poster for the film.
Oh man this is gonna be good. John Wick 1 already convinced me to get a Heckler and Koch P30 as my first pistol (when I move). I wonder what guns this movie will convince me to get? PyramidHead (talk) 18:34, 18 January 2019 (EST)
I know the props are meant to promote Taran Tactical, but I think John would be used an actual short barrel MPX because there's no real advantages in a long barrelled PCC Excalibur01 (talk) 10:47, 24 January 2019 (EST)
- Does the MPX Carbine count as a rifle or SMG? I called it a SMG, UltimateNinja called it a rifle because semi-only. Sure the base gun is semi-only but this is a movie, its more likely to be full-auto. And yes, we get more 3Gun nonsense from Taran Tactical and another "9mm Major" blank gun. Can't we get real combat experts to advice and not 3-Gun mall ninjas? What happened to getting ex-special forces people to advise?--Mandolin (talk) 19:16, 26 January 2019 (EST)
- I didn't call it a rifle, it's a carbine (which is why the section was titled "Rifles/Carbines"). But now that you mention it, I believe that such weapons are usually grouped with SMGs on IMFDB pages, so I'm thinking of re-adding there, but while renaming the section to "Submachine Guns/Pistol-Caliber Carbines" (been done on a few other pages). On another note, the TR-1 Ultralight was indeed shown as semi-auto most of the time in JW2. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 02:04, 27 January 2019 (EST)
- They gave him a 16" weapon last movie as well, because assassins always follow US firearms laws, even in foreign nations--Mandolin (talk) 19:22, 26 January 2019 (EST)
- I mean, some of them other assassins had shorter barrel guns. In this movie during the Morocco shootout, John actually picked up and used a short barrel MPX and then for some reason gave it to Halle Barry in the next scene. Excalibur01 (talk) 00:27, 13 June 2019 (EDT)
- If I remember correctly, they didn't use the same gun. Wick picked up a 4.5" MPX Copperhead, but Sofia used an 8" MPX. As for Wick's choice of a 16" MPX Carbine later in the NYC Continental, I guess one possibility is that it's a "big" gun in the eyes of the audience (which he throws at an assailant when it gets emptied). Unsurprisingly, it ended up lacking effectiveness against the heavily armored attackers, though it was noticeably more effective than the 2011 Combat Master despite being chambered the same. He might as well have used a larger-caliber weapon such as an MCX assault rifle (as in, before knowing how much they were armored). --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 02:58, 13 June 2019 (EDT)
- Technically the same caliber but the 1911 was in 9mm major. The different MPXs during the Morocco fight could have just been a continuity error. I think because Taran Tactical trained Keanu with the rifle MPX, it made sense. If TTI maks custom SIG MCXs, you bet John Wick would be using one in the movie. I didn't understand why they switched from the better Benelli M4 to the older M2 Excalibur01 (talk) 23:44, 13 June 2019 (EDT)
- Probably not a continuity error so much as just a personal choice of weapons. Both the 4.5" and 8" MPX appeared that scene; Sofia might have simply picked up an 8" MPX from a random guard (whereas Wick had to commandeer the 4.5" Copperhead in an emergency situation), and Wick switched to his traditional use of pistols. As for the presence of the TTI Benelli M2, it's possibly because they wanted some variety and didn't want to use the same M4 from JW2. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 08:39, 20 July 2019 (EDT)
Pistol used by Winston
Does anyone happen to know what the pistol used by Winston (mother-of-pearl grips) is? This pistol appears near the final scene in the "glass" room and is also the pistol used to shoot a character off the roof of the Continental. Not mentioned in the main article thus far.
There's a scene where the adjudicator talks to the Bowery King about a Kimber 1911 that John used and takes it out her bag as evidence, but you notice the grip was different from the Kimber Warrior that was actually used in the movie Excalibur01 (talk) 20:36, 18 May 2019 (EDT)
I'm looking forward to the home release of the film, as that scene with the revolvers toward the beginning was fascinating, and I wish to watch it again just to see what on earth he was doing.
Here's my little breakdown: He grabs a .44-40 cartridge (clearly marked in the display he stole it from) and played mix and match with guns to get it to fire out of what he had. From the looks of it, he took the frame from an 1875 Remington, grabbed a .44-40 cylinder from another revolver, and then grabbed the barrel off an 1858 colt and squished it onto the whole assembly, then replaced the hammer of the Remington for some reason. After all this, he successfully used to it fire that single .44-40, but the takes were such that I didn't really comprehend exactly what kind of tinkering madness he allegedly pulled off. Anyone else got thoughts on this scene? Uberdood (talk) 20:30, 20 May 2019 (EDT)
It seemed like a homage to two scenes from The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. The scene where Eli Wallach disassembles three revolvers (albeit all the same model and brand) to make a “custom” gun, but combined with the tension of the scene where Clint Eastwood quickly reloads his revolver when he hears gunmen coming. (User talk:Cole Thorton)
- I figured that the guns were broken and he was trying to figure out which parts worked.--Mandolin (talk) 20:37, 10 June 2019 (EDT)
The gun Wick uses to switch parts with the Remington is a Colt 1851 Navy. In real life that is physically impossible. --Tecolote (talk) 22:15, 12 June 2019 (EDT)Tecolote--Tecolote (talk) 22:15, 12 June 2019 (EDT)
- First of all forgive me, it's been a while since I used a wiki. Also, I know more about guns than the average joe, but I wouldn't call myself a gun expert or anything. You say Colt Navy. From the movie it looked like a Colt Army Action. But even re-viewing the scene on Youtube, it's definitely a cap-and-ball revolver. It's important to note that such revolvers don't use modern cartridged bullets, so my hypothesis is that he wanted it to be able to able to quickly take a (modern cartridged) bullet. Looked at from this perspective, the scene is almost "the opposite" of the Star Trek OS episode "Arena". Des (talk) 14:29, 13 June 2019 (CAT)
The banging is tapping the Colt barrel wedge out. If the wedge is well fitted, it should take only one tap. A Colt frame is shown without screws during the sequence. One can switch the innards of Colt Navies around, including hammers. You can't switch barrels and cylinders between calibers. Putting a Colt Navy barrel on a Remington frame is pure science fiction as Remington barrels are screwed into the frame while Colt barrels fit on the cylinder arbor and are secured by the wedge. Even if you could, the Colt Navy barrel is .36 caliber whereas the '75 Remington is a .44; Kaboom! I did not see a '61 Navy in the sequence , but rather the '60 Army with a worn, grey finish, perhaps a non gun. --Tecolote (talk) 18:35, 3 August 2019 (EDT)Tecolote--Tecolote (talk) 18:35, 3 August 2019 (EDT) With the excellent screen caps now provided, I'm positive the 1860 is a non gun, a Denix. Note the screws in grip, the diamond-shaped logo on the frame and the greyish finish.
There is a Glock 19X used by Wick. The lighting is poor but he starts the Morocco gun and dogfight with it. You really have to looking for it but it is there. --Tecolote (talk) 22:12, 12 June 2019 (EDT)Tecolote--Tecolote (talk) 22:12, 12 June 2019 (EDT)
- Really? That would be cool (yeah, I didn't notice it due to the lighting and fast action), and it would confirm what Xtreme Props revealed two months ago. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 03:08, 13 June 2019 (EDT)
Anyone else notice that all the pages for the John Wick movies are scrunched over to the left side of the screen? And just the Wick movies, all the others seem fine. Pic--Mandolin (talk) 16:30, 15 September 2019 (EDT)
- Yeah i noticed that too even in the edit box its all to the left side.--Balin21 (talk) 17:34, 15 September 2019 (EDT)
Please help ID
- I think it's FN FNP-45 Pustelga7 (talk) 18 February 2020
Muzzle device on CCP?
Full continental armory list
Why delete the full list? The edit explanation literally just said "unneeded", but I had already added the whole thing and "not necessary to go out of your way to add" and "necessary to go out of your way to remove" are two very different things. It was an incredibly small amount of text (literally a single kilobyte worth, for reference, the image of the poster alone on this page is one thousand times the size) and didn't slow the rate at which the page was loaded at any perceivable difference. The only thing it did was make the whole section more readable.--U7355608 (talk) 15:48, 10 June 2022 (EDT)
For anyone who'd like to read it as it was:
2x blunderbuss, Flintlock pistol, 3x Colt 1851 Navy, 3x Remington 1858 New Army, 3x Single Action Army
TTI STI 2011, CZ P-09, SW1911SC "E-Series", TTI Glock 34, Glock 19X, CZ P-10 C, 2x Heckler & Koch P30L, HK USP, FN FNX-9
2x MP5-K PDW, 3x Gen 1 SIG MPX, 3x Uzi, KRISS Vector, B&T TP9, 3x CZ Scorpion Evo 3 S1 (fitted with SBTEVO stabilizing braces and EOTech sights), CZ Scorpion Evo 3 S1 (not customized), FN P90 TR, CMMG MkGs Banshee, Unidentified 9mm AR-15 derivative with a Felegie Enterprises-like 8.5" handguard
2x PTR PDW (one in 7.62x51, the other 7.62x39), IWI X95, Galil 7.62 ARM, SIG SG 552, 2x Heckler & Koch G36C, FN FS2000 Tactical, Seekins Precision NXP8, 2x Battle Arms Development Paratrooper, 4x Galil MAR, AKMSU, Unidentified bullpup, 2x CMMG Mk47 Banshee
Remington 870 MCS, 870 MCS Masterkey, Beretta Tx4 Storm, TTI Benelli M2, Benelli M4, Mossberg 590M, Mossberg 590 Shockwave, 2x Kel-Tec KSG
2x Desert Tech SRS Covert, Accuracy International AWM, Barrett MRAD