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When the T-1000 ([[Robert Patrick]]) first enters present day Los Angeles, he is seen taking a [[Beretta 92FS]] off a fallen LAPD officer. He is then seen notably firing the pistol at John Connor ([[Edward Furlong]]) during the confrontation with the T-800 ([[Arnold Schwarzenegger]]) in the back hallway of the mall. It should be noted that Patrick's 92FS is modified to have a left-handed magazine release button; a reversible magazine catch became a standard feature for the 92 series since the 92F model, and now is almost mandatory for any modern pistol. LAPD officers outside of the Cyberdyne building are also seen with their issued Beretta 92FS. Two kids outside the Mojave Desert gas station can be seen playing with a pair of toy Beretta 92FS' as well. | When the T-1000 ([[Robert Patrick]]) first enters present day Los Angeles, he is seen taking a [[Beretta 92FS]] off a fallen LAPD officer. He is then seen notably firing the pistol at John Connor ([[Edward Furlong]]) during the confrontation with the T-800 ([[Arnold Schwarzenegger]]) in the back hallway of the mall. It should be noted that Patrick's 92FS is modified to have a left-handed magazine release button; a reversible magazine catch became a standard feature for the 92 series since the 92F model, and now is almost mandatory for any modern pistol. LAPD officers outside of the Cyberdyne building are also seen with their issued Beretta 92FS. Two kids outside the Mojave Desert gas station can be seen playing with a pair of toy Beretta 92FS' as well. | ||
− | When Robert Patrick was training to portray the | + | When Robert Patrick was training to portray the T-1000 - in addition to learning how to go through entire conversations without changing the tone of his voice, not blinking it all, breathing without his chest moving, and running without notably breathing - he also trained himself (this was all his idea) to fire his gun without flinching, and to fire and reload both and left and right-handed, since as a robot wouldn't be left or right-hand dominant like a human. |
[[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm]] | [[Image:BerettaM92FS.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm]] |
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Terminator 2: Judgment Day is the 1991 sequel to The Terminator. The second installment in The Terminator film series was co-written and helmed by original Terminator director James Cameron and Arnold Schwarzenegger returns as a different Terminator, this time reprogrammed and sent back to present day to protect the future leader of the Resistance from a new and more terrifying threat. Schwarzenegger would star again as the Terminator in a second sequel, 2003's Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines and aside from a cameo via CGI in 2009's Terminator Salvation, would not return to the world of The Terminator until 2015's Terminator: Genisys. In 2019, Schwarzenegger would once again be back in Terminator: Dark Fate, a direct sequel to T2 that ignores Terminator 3, Salvation, and Genisys. Dark Fate would also would mark the return of James Cameron, this time as producer, as well as Linda Hamilton as Sarah Connor.
See the Discussion section for some interesting and detailed non-gun-related trivia on the film.
The following weapons were used in the film Terminator 2: Judgment Day:
WARNING! THIS PAGE CONTAINS SPOILERS!
Shotguns
Winchester 1887
Upon arriving in the present (believed to be 1995 in the film), the Terminator T-800 Model 101 (Arnold Schwarzenegger) enters a biker bar and takes the clothes and firearm off a biker. As he prepares to leave on the biker's Harley Fatboy, the T-800 is confronted by the bar owner (Peter Schrum), who fires a warning shot from his sawed-off Winchester 1887. The Terminator coolly walks over and snatches the gun from his hand. The Terminator keeps the gun as his main weapon for a good portion of the film until he comes upon Sarah Connor's (Linda Hamilton) armory, where superior weapons are at his disposal.
Three versions of the gun were used during filming. The first was the iconic "Rosebox Shotgun" with a sawed off barrel and stock and the trigger guard cut out. This is the gun seen through most of the film. The second version had a large lever loop so the gun could be flip cocked one-handed while riding a motorcycle (similar to the actions seen in True Grit and The Rifleman) - James Cameron says in the commentary how Arnold accidentally picked up the wrong shotgun and tried to flip cock it and nearly broke three fingers. The third gun was the rubber prop gun for stunt work. Despite having a five round tube magazine plus one in the chamber, the gun is often shown firing seven or eight rounds before reloading. It is possible to "hot-load" the gun to hold seven rounds by placing a round directly on the carrier after loading five into the magazine and then another round on top, so that closing the action will chamber said round. Doing so is fairly risky, as closing the action too quickly can discharge the gun.
Since Winchester had stopped producing the Winchester 1887 shotgun before the film, the armorers had to find pristine condition guns which were no longer in production! The guns in the film are indeed genuine Winchester shotguns and not a foreign copy such as the Norinco YL1887L (which wasn't released until 2002) or any of the Aldo Uberti copies (they weren't producing an 1887 shotgun at the time). The report of the shotgun is said to be two cannons firing at once, or a mixture of a rifle, a cannon and a lion's roar.
Special
Remington 870 with Folding Stock
Near the end of the film, Sarah Connor (Linda Hamilton) engages the T-1000 using a Remington 870 with Folding Stock she took from a SWAT van, outfitted with a high-capacity magazine tube and a spare shotshell holder on the stock, each shot knocking her opponent progressively closer to the pit of molten steel in the mill, until running out of ammo, frustratingly close to knocking the T-1000 into the pit. One of the police officers outside Cyberdyne is also seen using one.
Special
Mossberg 590
Enrique (Castulo Guerra) is seen carrying a Mossberg 590 shotgun when Sarah, John, and the Terminator arrive at his home in the Mojave desert. Later on, a SWAT officer is seen firing a 590 at the SWAT van Sarah, John, and The Terminator use to escape from Cyberdyne in.
High Standard Model K-1200 Riot Standard
Several High Standard K-1200 Riot Standard Model Shotguns are seen in the Mojave Desert armory. The Terminator is seen carrying a few out.
Franchi SPAS-12
In a surveillance footage photo shown to Sarah, a Franchi SPAS-12 shotgun is seen in the left hand of the Terminator during the assault on the police station from the first film.
Franchi SPAS-15
A future resistance soldier is seen firing a Franchi SPAS-15 during the future battle scene.
Remington 870
Several LAPD officers outside the Cyberdyne building are armed with standard Remington 870 shotguns.
Ithaca 37
Other LAPD officers outside the Cyberdyne building are seen armed with Ithaca 37 shotguns.
Handguns
Colt Series 70/Detonics 1911 Hybrid
When the Terminator (Arnold Schwarzenegger) first arrives in the present, he enters a biker bar and asks The Cigar Smoking Biker (Robert Winley) to give him his clothes, his boots, and his motorcycle. After a fight breaks out, the Terminator throws the biker on a stove's hot burners and burns him badly. He then tries to draw his custom Colt Series 70/Detonics 1911 Hybrid but is unable to chamber it and has the gun taken from him. Later when John and the T-800 break Sarah out of the mental hospital, she takes the Colt/Detonics 1911 and fires it at the T-1000 and keeps it as her sidearm until she retrieves her own custom Detonics 1911. During the shootout at Cyberdyne, the T-800 uses the 1911 to wound all of the SWAT officers in the lobby before the gun goes empty and he tosses it away. Even though he is never seen picking it back up, he somehow has it tucked in his pants and ready to shoot the T-1000, frozen in liquid nitrogen, at the end of the film. In all scenes but one, the pistol is reloaded after every 8 rounds fired.
The pistol is built with a Colt Series 70 slide and Detonics frame with Pachmayr grips, an ambidextrous safety, and chambered in 9mm (because .45s didn't cycle well as blanks at the time).
Special
Beretta 92FS
When the T-1000 (Robert Patrick) first enters present day Los Angeles, he is seen taking a Beretta 92FS off a fallen LAPD officer. He is then seen notably firing the pistol at John Connor (Edward Furlong) during the confrontation with the T-800 (Arnold Schwarzenegger) in the back hallway of the mall. It should be noted that Patrick's 92FS is modified to have a left-handed magazine release button; a reversible magazine catch became a standard feature for the 92 series since the 92F model, and now is almost mandatory for any modern pistol. LAPD officers outside of the Cyberdyne building are also seen with their issued Beretta 92FS. Two kids outside the Mojave Desert gas station can be seen playing with a pair of toy Beretta 92FS' as well.
When Robert Patrick was training to portray the T-1000 - in addition to learning how to go through entire conversations without changing the tone of his voice, not blinking it all, breathing without his chest moving, and running without notably breathing - he also trained himself (this was all his idea) to fire his gun without flinching, and to fire and reload both and left and right-handed, since as a robot wouldn't be left or right-hand dominant like a human.
Special
Detonics Custom 1911
Sarah Connor (Linda Hamilton) retrieves a Detonics custom 1911 with Pachmayr grips from the armory in the Mojave desert and takes it with her on her mission to kill Miles Dyson (Joe Morton). Sarah manages to wound him with the gun before she realizes what she is doing and stops. She later uses it to keep a SWAT team at bay during a shootout at the Cyberdyne building.
The pistol was custom built by Detonics off of their ScoreMaster model and features a CombatMaster slide with its signature forward-mounted rear sight with a slide extension affixed to the frame of the pistol, giving it the appearance of a longslide. Info about the pistol being a hybrid of a ScoreMaster frame with a CombatMaster slide was stated according to biggerhammer.net and confirmed by a former Detonics employee. In a touch of irony, the pistol was originally made for the Tom Selleck film Runaway, intended by its producers to be the big sci-fi action blockbuster of 1984 but which was thoroughly eclipsed by the debut film from a then-unknown director called The Terminator.
Browning Hi-Power
The T-1000 takes a Browning Hi-Power Mark III off Lewis (Don Stanton), the guard he kills in the mental hospital and uses it to shoot at Sarah, John, and the Terminator before discarding it when it runs dry. During much of this sequence the T-1000 is mimicking Lewis; Don Stanton's twin brother Dan Stanton plays the T-1000's imitation.
M1911A1
The gate guard at the mental hospital tries to draw an M1911A1 with a nickel finish and pearl grips before he is shot in both kneecaps by the Terminator. He then takes three magazines off of him, which are clearly loaded with .45 ACP rounds. This would make them useless in his 9mm 1911 but the viewer isn't supposed to know his gun is a 9mm.
Taurus PT99AFS
Guards in the Cyberdyne lobby keep nickel-plated Taurus PT99AFS pistols as their sidearms. (Note: These weapons were initially mis-identified as the Beretta 92FS Inox, but close inspection of the pistol in Gibbons' (Abdul Salaam El Razzac's) holster indicates that it has the frame-mounted safety/decocker of Taurus PT92-series pistols, and the adjustable rear sight of the PT99.)
Grenade Launchers
M79 grenade launcher
The Terminator (Arnold Schwarzenegger) takes an M79 grenade launcher from Sarah's arsenal in the Mojave desert. During the assault on the Cyberdyne building, the T-800 uses the M79 grenade launcher, first to blast open a locked door, then to destroy several of the police cars assembled outside, then during the ensuing car chase when the T-1000 pursues the protagonists in a commandeered tanker truck, the Terminator scoring a direct hit on the engine with the M79, though the truck miraculously continues running. He also tries to use it on the T-1000 during the fight in the steel mill, eventually using it to knock the T-1000 into the pit of molten steel. By this point, part of the launcher's stock has been shattered during the fight, but enough remains for the weapon to be usable. In reality, 40mm HE rounds have a safety mechanism in which they will not detonate until they have flown a certain distance. The more modern types arm after at least 14m. Earlier types, such as the M381, have a 2-3m arming range. However, in the film, rounds detonate as little as 3-5 feet from the muzzle. The M79 presents a nightmare of continuity problems. The bandolier varies both in quantity of grenades and arrangement of remaining grenades as the movie heads toward its climax. At the end of the day the bandolier started with 11 rounds which somehow translated to firing 7 before running out of ammo.
MM1 grenade launcher
An MM1 grenade launcher is used by one of the SWAT officers inside the Cyberdyne building to fire gas canister grenades at Sarah, John, and the T-800. It is then picked up by the T-800 after incapacitating the officer using it and then used by him to fire CS grenades around the police blockade.
Rifles / Carbines
Colt "Commando" CAR-15 Variants
Sarah is seen using a Colt "Commando"-type carbine (in reality a Colt Sporter II Carbine chopped down and mocked up as a Colt Model 629) out of the armory from the Mojave desert in an attempt to eliminate Miles Dyson (Joe Morton) when she learns he started the project which lead to the machines being built. She removes the flash hider and adds a sound suppressor, along with a laser sight and an ACOG scope. During the incident at the Cyberdyne system HQ, some of the SWAT officers are armed with these rifles, notably during the sequence when they open fire on the Terminator in the lobby. When Sarah, John, and the T-800 try to escape in a SWAT van as the T-1000 pursues in a police chopper, Sarah uses two Commando carbines, one a mock Sporter II the other a slab-side AR-15 Sporter 1 carbine converted to look like a Commando as well (similar to the weapons in The Dogs of War). The last instance a Colt Commando is used is when the Terminator takes a Mock Sporter II and climbs onto the front of the liquid nitrogen truck the T-1000 is driving and fires it through the windshield. James Cameron commented how foolish this stunt was because it was done exactly as it is seen in the film - from a moving truck with no wires attached.
TRIVIA: In earlier drafts of the screenplay, Sarah was supposed to use an FN FAL in the attempt to kill Dyson, though the weapon was changed to a "CAR-15" (referred to as such) in later drafts.
Armalite AR-18
When the doctors at the mental hospital show Sarah pictures of the Terminator from surveillance cameras in the police station during 1984 (keep in mind that security cameras weren't installed in police stations at this time), the Terminator is seen wielding the two guns we saw him use in the first film. In his right hand, he is holding an Armalite AR-18.
Muzzelite MZ14 Bullpup
Human Resistance fighters during the Future War scenes are armed with Ruger AC556 rifles fitted into Muzzelite bullpup stocks with scopes as plasma guns. A few of these rifles appear to be the same props previously used in Total Recall (1990), with the removed front sight, added Imatronic LS45 laser sights and shortened barrels.
AKM
When going through the armory in the desert, John checks the chambers on several AKM rifles (extended edition only). Sarah can also be briefly seen carrying one.
M16A1
A number of M16A1 rifles can be seen on the armory wall.
Machine Guns
Hand Held M134 Minigun
In one of the more notable scenes of the film, the T-800 engages the police assembled outside the Cyberdyne building with a Hand Held M134 Minigun, destroying the police cars while leaving the police themselves unharmed (the police helicopter pilot namechecks the weapon by hysterically shouting, "That's a damn Minigun!"). In the screenplay, the Terminator was supposed to use a MAC-10 to shoot at the police, but shortly before filming, James Cameron decided to revisit the gun used in Predator, and the scene was accordingly re-written as a longer and more dramatic shootout. The gun in T2 is the same one from Predator and used the same custom Y-frame as the previous picture, but with some modifications. The modified M60 foregrip assembly was removed in its entirety. To replace it a "chainsaw" grip was mounted on the Y-frame and the M16-style carry handle was removed. This style of carry has become the "standard" for handheld Miniguns in movies and video games. The Y-frame still attaches to the weapon's mounting lugs, though with no carry handle, the weapon lost its sling attachment point, forcing Arnold to carry all the weight of the weapon in his hands. In order to fire it, the Terminator carries a duffel bag full of ammo and possibly the batteries as well, as there are some shots that show what appear to be cables leading from the gun and into the duffel bag. It is also possible that the duffel bag was simply used to hide the fact that the cables trailed off set to the power supply and gun control unit, as on Predator.
Special
GE M134 Minigun
A standard GE M134 Minigun is mounted on the back of a truck in the future battle scene. A soldier next to the future John Connor (Michael Edwards) is also seen manning a Minigun. This is not the same Minigun as the handheld one above, as some believe.
Browning M2HB
Among the weapons seen in the hidden weapons cache in the Mojave Desert is a Browning M2HB heavy machine gun.
M60
Three M60 machine guns can be seen inside the Mojave desert armory.
Submachine Guns
Heckler & Koch MP5K
While fleeing from the Cyberdyne building, the Connors and the T-800 find themselves being pursued by the T-1000 piloting a stolen police helicopter and brandishing a Heckler & Koch MP5K. A SWAT officer can also be seen using one.
TRIVIA: The screenplay referred to this weapon - somewhat incorrectly - as a "Hoechler and Koch MPK machine pistol". The screenplay also implied that the T1000 acquired the MP5K from Enrique (Castulo Guerra), who fired the weapon at T1000 during a confrontation scene in the desert that was included in the script, but never filmed.
Special
Heckler & Koch HK94A2/A3 (chopped and converted)
The SWAT teams that assaults Cyberdyne are mainly armed with Heckler & Koch HK94s with the 16" barrels chopped down and converted to full auto to resemble MP5s. The most notable ways to tell are the lack of the 3 barrel lugs, the lack of a paddle magazine release, and the lack of a push pin lower receiver. Some of these guns are the collapsing stock HK94A3s (standing in for MP5A3s) while others are the fixed stock HK94A2s (standing in for MP5A2s).
MAC-10
John Connor (Edward Furlong) picks a MAC-10 submachine gun while the Terminator examines the M79.
Trivia: In the screenplay, the MAC-10 was supposed to be the weapon that the Terminator used during the shootout at the Cyberdyne Building, before James Cameron decided that the Terminator should use the handheld Minigun instead.
Other
FIM-43 Redeye
A future resistance fighter on the back of a truck takes out an Aerial Hunter-Killer (H-K) drone with an FIM-43 Redeye missile launcher.
Endo Battle Rifle
The fictional Endo Battle Rifle is seen being used by the endoskeleton Terminators in the future scenes of the film. This weapon was built on the Calico M960 (Liberty 100 variant) 9mm submachine gun. These walking endoskeletons are among the most famous of Stan Winston's animatronics, right up there with the T-rex from Jurassic Park and the Alien Queen from Aliens.
General Dynamics RBS-80
The General Dynamics RBS-80 from the first Terminator film returns very briefly and is seen used to blow up a machine. It looks like it is built from a British Vickers gun (As a toggle lock is seen at one point in T1) or the Colt variant of the Browning M1917 machine gun hence the spade grips.
M72 LAW
A group of M72 LAW launchers can be seen when John and the Terminator first enter the armory.