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=Dump=
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* [[Template:Dynamic]]
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* [[Template:Quote]]
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* [[Template:Trivia]]
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* [[IMFDB:Latest]]
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=Template:AK=
 
=Template:AK=
  
 
{{Navbox
 
{{Navbox
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| title = [[:Category:AK Derivatives|AK Pattern Rifles]] ([[AK Gallery|Gallery]])
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| title = Rifle-caliber [[:Category:AK Derivatives|AK Derivatives]] ([[AK Gallery|Gallery]])
 
| listclass = hlist
 
| listclass = hlist
  
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| list1 = {{Navbox|child
 
| list1 = {{Navbox|child
  
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   | group1 = Assault rifles
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   | group1 = AK
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   | list1 = [[AK-12]]{{@}}[[AK-47]]{{@}}[[AK-74]]{{@}}[[AK-101]]{{@}}[[AK-103]]{{@}}[[AK-107]]{{@}}[[AK-108]]{{@}}[[AKM]]{{@}}[[AKMS]]
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   | list1 =
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* [[AK-47]]
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* [[AKS-47]]
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* [[AKM]]
 +
* [[AKMS]]
 +
* [[RPK]]
 +
 
 +
  | group2 = AK-74
 +
  | list2 =
 +
* [[AK-74]]
 +
* [[AKS-74]]
 +
* [[RPK-74]]
 +
* [[AKS-74U]]
 +
 
 +
  | group3 = AK-74M
 +
  | list3 =
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* [[AK-74M]]
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* [[AK-9]]
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* [[AK-101]]
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* [[AK-102]]
 +
* [[AK-103]]
 +
* [[AK-104]]
 +
* [[AK-105]]
 +
* [[AK-107]]
 +
* [[AK-108]]
  
−
   | group2 = Carbines
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   | group4 = AK-12
−
   | list2 = [[AK-9]]{{@}}[[AK-102]]{{@}}[[AK-104]]{{@}}[[AK-105]]{{@}}[[AKS-74U]]{{@}}[[Saiga rifle series|Saiga MK-03]]
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   | list4 =
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* [[AK-12]]
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* [[RPK-16]]
  
−
   | group3 = Sporting rifles
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   | group5 = Bullpup
−
   | list3 = [[Saiga 308]]{{@}}[[Molot Vepr]]
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   | list5 = [[OTs-14 Groza]]
  
−
   | group4 = Machine guns
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   | group6 = Civilian
−
   | list4 = [[RPK]]{{@}}[[RPK-74]]{{@}}[[RPK-16]]
+
   | list6 =
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* [[Saiga 308]]
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* [[Saiga rifle series|Saiga MK-03]]
 +
* [[Molot Vepr]]
 
   }}
 
   }}
  
 
| group2 = Bulgarian
 
| group2 = Bulgarian
−
| list2 = {{Navbox|child
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| list2 =
−
 
+
* [[Arsenal AR]]
−
  | group1 = Assault rifles
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* [[Arsenal AR-F]]
−
  | list1 = [[Arsenal AR]]{{@}}[[Arsenal AR-F]]{{@}}[[Arsenal AR-M1]]{{@}}[[Arsenal AR-M1F]]{{@}}[[Arsenal SAR-M1]]
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* [[Arsenal AR-M1]]
−
 
+
* [[Arsenal AR-M1F]]
−
  | group2 = Carbines
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* [[Arsenal SAR-M1]]
−
  | list2 = [[Arsenal AR-SF]]{{@}}[[Arsenal AR-M4SF]]
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* [[Arsenal AR-SF]]
−
  }}
+
* [[Arsenal AR-M4SF]]
  
 
| group3 = Chinese
 
| group3 = Chinese
 
| list3 = {{Navbox|child
 
| list3 = {{Navbox|child
  
−
   | group1 = Assault rifles
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   | group1 = Type 56
−
   | list1 = [[Norinco MAK-90]]{{@}}[[Type 56 assault rifle|Type 56]]{{@}}[[Type 56-1]]{{@}}[[Type 56-2]]{{@}}[[Norinco Type 84S]]{{@}}[[Norinco Type 84S|Norinco Type 84S Underfolder]]
+
   | list1 =
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* [[Type 56 assault rifle|Type 56]]
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* [[Type 56-1]]
 +
* [[Type 56-2]]
 +
* [[MAK-90]]
 +
 
 +
  | group2 = Type 84
 +
  | list2 =
 +
* [[Type 84S]]
 +
* [[Type 84S-1]]
 +
* [[Type 84S-2]]
  
−
   | group2 = Sporting rifles
+
   | group3 = Bullpup
−
   | list2 = [[Norinco Type 84S|Norinco Type 84S Target]]{{@}}[[Norinco Type 84S|Norinco Type 84S Match]]
+
   | list3 = [[Type 86S]]
 
   }}
 
   }}
  
 
| group4 = East German
 
| group4 = East German
−
| list4 = {{Navbox|child
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| list4 =
−
 
+
* [[MPi-KM-72]]
−
  | group1 = Assault rifles
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* [[MPi-KMS-72]]
−
  | list1 = [[MPi-KM-72]]{{@}}[[MPi-KMS-72]]
 
−
  }}
 
  
 
| group5 = Hungarian
 
| group5 = Hungarian
−
| list5 = {{Navbox|child
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| list5 =
−
 
+
* [[AKM-63]]
−
  | group1 = Assault rifles
+
* [[AMD-65]]
−
  | list1 = [[AKM-63]]{{@}}[[FEG NGM-81]]
+
* [[FEG NGM-81]]
  
−
  | group2 = Carbines
+
| group6 = Finnish
−
  | list2 = [[AMD-65]]
 
−
  }}
 
−
 
 
−
| group6 = Israeli
 
 
| list6 = {{Navbox|child
 
| list6 = {{Navbox|child
  
−
   | group1 = Assault rifles
+
   | group1 = M62
−
   | list1 = [[AK-Alfa]]
+
   | list1 =
−
  }}
+
* [[Valmet M62]]
 +
* [[Valmet M76]]
  
−
| group7 = Polish
+
  | group2 = M71
−
| list7 = {{Navbox|child
+
  | list2 =
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* [[Valmet M71]]
 +
* [[Valmet M78]]
  
−
   | group1 = Assault rifles
+
   | group3 = M95
−
   | list1 = [[wz. 88 Tantal]]{{@}}[[wz. 96 Beryl]]
+
   | list3 = [[Valmet M95|M95]]
  
−
   | group2 = Carbines
+
   | group4 = Bullpup
−
   | list2 = [[wz. 89 Onyks]]{{@}}[[wz. 96 Mini-Beryl]]
+
   | list4 = [[Valmet M82]]
 
   }}
 
   }}
  
−
| group8 = Romanian
+
| group7 = Israeli
−
| list8 = {{Navbox|child
+
| list7 = {{Navbox|child
  
−
   | group1 = Assault rifles
+
   | group1 = Galil AR
−
   | list1 = [[AIM]]{{@}}[[AIM-74]]{{@}}[[AIMS]]{{@}}[[AIMS-74]]{{@}}[[WASR]]
+
   | list1 =  
 +
* [[Galil AR]]
 +
* [[Galil MAR]]
 +
* [[Galil SAR]]
 +
* [[Galil ARM]]
 +
* [[Galil Sniper Rifle]]
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* [[SR-99]]
  
−
   | group2 = Carbines
+
   | group2 = Galil ACE
−
   | list2 = [[AIMR]]
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   | list2 = [[Galil ACE 21]]
−
  }}
 
−
 
 
−
| group9 = Yugoslavian
 
−
| list9 = {{Navbox|child
 
−
 
 
−
  | group1 = Assault rifles
 
−
  | list1 = [[Zastava M70B1]]{{@}}[[Zastava M70AB2]]
 
−
 
 
−
  | group2 = Carbines
 
−
  | list2 = [[Zastava M85]]{{@}}[[Zastava M92]]
 
−
 
 
−
  | group3 = Machine guns
 
−
  | list3 = [[Zastava M72B1]]
 
−
  }}
 
−
 
 
−
| group10 = Custom
 
−
| list10 = {{Navbox|child
 
−
 
 
−
  | group1 = Carbines
 
−
  | list1 = [[AKMSU]]
 
−
  }}
 
−
}}
 
−
 
 
−
{{Navbox
 
−
| title = [[:Category:AK Derivatives|AK Derivatives]] ([[AK Gallery#AK Derivatives|Gallery]])
 
−
| listclass = hlist
 
−
 
 
−
| group1 = Finnish
 
−
| list1 = {{Navbox|child
 
−
 
 
−
  | group1 = M62 pattern
 
−
  | list1 = [[Valmet M62]]{{@}}[[Valmet M76]]
 
−
 
 
−
  | group2 = M71 pattern
 
−
  | list2 = [[Valmet M71]]{{@}}[[Valmet M78]]
 
  
−
   | group3 = M95 pattern
+
   | group3 = Others
−
   | list3 = [[Valmet M95|M95]]
+
   | list3 = [[AK-Alfa]]
 
   }}
 
   }}
  
−
| group3 = Indian
+
| group8 = South African
−
| list3 = [[INSAS]]
+
| list8 =
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* [[Vektor R4]]
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* [[Vektor R5]]
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* [[Vektor R6]]
 +
* [[Vektor CR-21]]
  
−
| group4 = Israeli
+
| group9 = Polish
−
| list4 = {{Navbox|child
+
| list9 =
 +
* [[wz. 88 Tantal]]
 +
* [[wz. 96 Beryl]]
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* [[wz. 89 Onyks]]
 +
* [[wz. 96 Mini-Beryl]]
  
−
  | group1 = Galil AR
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| group10 = Romanian
−
  | list1 = [[Galil AR]]{{@}}[[Galil MAR]]{{@}}[[Galil SAR]]{{@}}[[Galil ARM]]{{@}}[[Galil Sniper Rifle]]{{@}}[[SR-99]]
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| list10 =
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* [[AIM]]
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* [[AIM-74]]
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* [[AIMS]]
 +
* [[AIMS-74]]
 +
* [[WASR]]
 +
* [[AIMR]]
 +
* [[PSL Sniper Rifle]]
  
−
  | group2 = Galil ACE
+
| group11 = Yugoslavian/Serbian
−
  | list2 = [[Galil ACE 21]]
+
| list11 =
−
  }}
+
* [[Zastava M70B1]]
 +
* [[Zastava M70AB2]]
 +
* [[Zastava M85]]
 +
* [[Zastava M92]]
 +
* [[Zastava M72B1]]
 +
* [[Zastava M76]]
  
−
| group5 = Romanian
+
| group12 = Ukrainian
−
| list5 = [[PSL Sniper Rifle]]
+
| list12 =  
 +
* [[AK-74#Vepr|Vepr]]
 +
* [[Malyuk]]
  
−
| group6 = South African
+
| group13 = Indian
−
| list6 = [[Vektor R4]]{{@}}[[Vektor R5]]{{@}}[[Vektor R6]]
+
| list13 = [[INSAS]]
  
−
| group7 = Yugoslavian
+
| group14 = Custom
−
| list7 = [[Zastava M76]]
+
| list14 = [[AKMSU]]
 
}}
 
}}
  
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| list1 = {{Navbox|child
 
| list1 = {{Navbox|child
  
−
   | group1 = Submachine guns
+
   | group1 = SMG/PCC
−
   | list1 = [[Gepard PDW]]{{@}}[[PP-19 Bizon]]{{@}}[[PP-19-01 Vityaz]]
+
   | list1 =
 +
* [[Gepard PDW]]
 +
* [[PP-19 Bizon]]
 +
* [[PP-19-01 Vityaz]]
 +
* [[Saiga 9]]  
  
−
   | group2 = Carbines
+
   | group2 = Shotguns
−
   | list2 = [[Saiga 9]]
+
   | list2 =
−
 
+
* [[Saiga 12]]
−
  | group3 = Shotguns
+
* [[Saiga 20]]
−
  | list3 = [[Saiga 12]]{{@}}[[Saiga 20]]{{@}}[[Saiga .410]]{{@}}[[Vepr-12]]
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* [[Saiga .410]]
 +
* [[Vepr-12]]
 
   }}
 
   }}
−
}}
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}}<includeonly>[[Category:AK Derivatives]]</includeonly>
  
−
{{Navbox
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=Usability Concerns=
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| title = Bullpup AK Derivatives
+
==Databasification==
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| listclass = hlist
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Despite IMFDB billing itself as a "database" of information, it is not actually structured like a database. Gun appearances have to be manually filled into gun and actor pages, instead of being automatically generated. This forces lots of busywork that could be optimized away; by restructuring the Wiki so that "Gun Appearance Entries" can be logged into a database (containing gun model, gun notes, gun user, etc.), and then having Gun/Actor pages automatically retrieve entries from that database to build their gun appearance tables, this eliminates the need for manual entry inputting, making the appearance pages more complete and reducing the burden on our editors.
  
−
| group1 = Soviet/Russian
+
Example of implementation: Yugipedia's card database functions.
−
| list1 = [[OTs-14 Groza]]
 
  
−
| group2 = Chinese
+
==Drafting==
−
| list2 = [[Norinco Type 86S]]
 
  
−
| group3 = Finnish
+
==Manual of Style==
−
| list3 = [[Valmet M82]]
 
  
−
| group4 = South African
+
==Visual Editor==
−
| list4 = [[Vektor CR-21]]
 
−
 
 
−
| group5 = Ukrainian
 
−
| list5 = [[AK-74#Vepr|Vepr]]{{@}}[[Malyuk]]
 
−
 
 
−
}}<includeonly>[[Category:AK Derivatives]]</includeonly>
 
  
 
=To-Do=
 
=To-Do=
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** Templatize more tables
 
** Templatize more tables
 
** phase out the old "page template" pages
 
** phase out the old "page template" pages
−
** More QoL propositions (true DB-ification of IMFDB? To automatically generate media appearance tables)
 
 
** Identify and delete zero-width character + line break combo
 
** Identify and delete zero-width character + line break combo
 
** Phase out See Also guns
 
** Phase out See Also guns
 
** Fixing the special pages
 
** Fixing the special pages
−
** New Manual of Style
+
*** Reminder: [[Talk:Hellsinki]] still only has broken images
−
** Drafting feature
 
−
** Visual editor
 
 
** (fake) caliber is stupid
 
** (fake) caliber is stupid
 
** More detailed page review system, or at least elaborate on the difference between WIP and Incomplete
 
** More detailed page review system, or at least elaborate on the difference between WIP and Incomplete
 +
** Fixing director categories
 +
** Broken files
 +
** Make the search bar only show "Internet Movie Firearms Database" (no hyphen and stuff after that)
 +
** Make the search bar not be case sensitive
 +
** Better sorting for talk-page-only storage pages
 +
** Disclaimer on IMFDB's reliability as a firearm research source
 +
** Bring in a more modern Wikipedia/Wikimedia Template suite (more navbox features, better infoboxes, hatnotes, notice boxes, etc.)
  
 
* Media pages
 
* Media pages
−
** Fixing ", The".
+
** Fix and delete the ", The" redirects.
 
** Mobile gaming curation proposal
 
** Mobile gaming curation proposal
−
** Really, user-translated names?
+
** Really, user-translated names? (compare w/ Wikipedia policies on naming films)
 
** fixing the hitman pages (the state of the pages is in part my fault)
 
** fixing the hitman pages (the state of the pages is in part my fault)
  
 
* Gun pages
 
* Gun pages
−
** Wuzh vs. Small Arms Illustrated (mark every SAI image as being an SAI photoshop)
 
 
** Reorganize break-action weapon pages (where do i even start)
 
** Reorganize break-action weapon pages (where do i even start)
 
** Better name for AKMSU? AKM Krinkov?
 
** Better name for AKMSU? AKM Krinkov?
−
** Need some expert opinions on topics like European blank-firing gun manufacturers or Asian airsoft manufacturers
 
 
** I messed up the Galil ACE identifications.
 
** I messed up the Galil ACE identifications.
 
** Samurai Edge individual page maybe? At least do something about the janky Beretta 96 page.
 
** Samurai Edge individual page maybe? At least do something about the janky Beretta 96 page.
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* Main Page
 
* Main Page
−
** A site description
 
 
** A better Featured Articles section
 
** A better Featured Articles section
 
** A Did you know section
 
** A Did you know section
 
** Sister projects section
 
** Sister projects section
−
** Links to other areas of IMFDB (e.g. Discord)
+
** Known issue: "@media (min-width: 875px)" creates visible "snap" in the margins when you resize and cross the 875px threshold
  
 
* Manufacturer pages
 
* Manufacturer pages
−
** Chinese provincial military industries is uhhhhh
+
** Chinese provincial military industries?
 +
 
 +
* Templates
 +
** Make Template:Media table start automatically adjust size
 +
 
 +
=Perpetual Tasks/Vague Goals=
 +
* Small Arms Illustrated photoshops should all be clearly marked (but which ones are SAI photoshops?)
 +
* Mark out IMFDB original images
 +
** Do something about IMFDB original photshops?
 +
* Need some expert opinions on topics like European blank-firing gun manufacturers or Asian airsoft manufacturers
 +
* IMFDB personal blogs (more media outreach, tap into the "YouTube FPS weapon demo" crowd, address the lingering "country weapon list" demand)
 +
** Official IMFDB weapon ID guides (inspired by Discord channel)
 +
** More weapon ID help channels beyond just the Discord channel?
 +
* Support image annotations (red circle pointing out the "I just broke the fire selector") and/or video weapon demos?
 +
* Ads, a necessary evil, but could we do still make it look nicer?
  
 
=Chinese Gun Name Notes=
 
=Chinese Gun Name Notes=
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* "BAM" logo refers to Jiangsu Xinsu Machinery Manufacturing Co., Ltd.
 
* "BAM" logo refers to Jiangsu Xinsu Machinery Manufacturing Co., Ltd.
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Latest revision as of 02:13, 29 March 2024

Dump

Template:AK

Usability Concerns

Databasification

Despite IMFDB billing itself as a "database" of information, it is not actually structured like a database. Gun appearances have to be manually filled into gun and actor pages, instead of being automatically generated. This forces lots of busywork that could be optimized away; by restructuring the Wiki so that "Gun Appearance Entries" can be logged into a database (containing gun model, gun notes, gun user, etc.), and then having Gun/Actor pages automatically retrieve entries from that database to build their gun appearance tables, this eliminates the need for manual entry inputting, making the appearance pages more complete and reducing the burden on our editors.

Example of implementation: Yugipedia's card database functions.

Drafting

Manual of Style

Visual Editor

To-Do

  • Wiki-Wide
    • Templatize more tables
    • phase out the old "page template" pages
    • Identify and delete zero-width character + line break combo
    • Phase out See Also guns
    • Fixing the special pages
    • (fake) caliber is stupid
    • More detailed page review system, or at least elaborate on the difference between WIP and Incomplete
    • Fixing director categories
    • Broken files
    • Make the search bar only show "Internet Movie Firearms Database" (no hyphen and stuff after that)
    • Make the search bar not be case sensitive
    • Better sorting for talk-page-only storage pages
    • Disclaimer on IMFDB's reliability as a firearm research source
    • Bring in a more modern Wikipedia/Wikimedia Template suite (more navbox features, better infoboxes, hatnotes, notice boxes, etc.)
  • Media pages
    • Fix and delete the ", The" redirects.
    • Mobile gaming curation proposal
    • Really, user-translated names? (compare w/ Wikipedia policies on naming films)
    • fixing the hitman pages (the state of the pages is in part my fault)
  • Gun pages
    • Reorganize break-action weapon pages (where do i even start)
    • Better name for AKMSU? AKM Krinkov?
    • I messed up the Galil ACE identifications.
    • Samurai Edge individual page maybe? At least do something about the janky Beretta 96 page.
    • Schwarzlose submachine gun
    • Corrections about the Art Gallery Frommer Stop
    • How is the Saving Private Ryan Unertl scope mounted
    • Clean up MKb and StG pages
  • Main Page
    • A better Featured Articles section
    • A Did you know section
    • Sister projects section
    • Known issue: "@media (min-width: 875px)" creates visible "snap" in the margins when you resize and cross the 875px threshold
  • Manufacturer pages
    • Chinese provincial military industries?
  • Templates
    • Make Template:Media table start automatically adjust size

Perpetual Tasks/Vague Goals

  • Small Arms Illustrated photoshops should all be clearly marked (but which ones are SAI photoshops?)
  • Mark out IMFDB original images
    • Do something about IMFDB original photshops?
  • Need some expert opinions on topics like European blank-firing gun manufacturers or Asian airsoft manufacturers
  • IMFDB personal blogs (more media outreach, tap into the "YouTube FPS weapon demo" crowd, address the lingering "country weapon list" demand)
    • Official IMFDB weapon ID guides (inspired by Discord channel)
    • More weapon ID help channels beyond just the Discord channel?
  • Support image annotations (red circle pointing out the "I just broke the fire selector") and/or video weapon demos?
  • Ads, a necessary evil, but could we do still make it look nicer?

Chinese Gun Name Notes

  • SDM is a brand of Italian importer Prima Armi S.r.l.
  • "BAM" logo refers to Jiangsu Xinsu Machinery Manufacturing Co., Ltd.
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