Talk:CZ Scorpion Evo 3 series

Additional Images

CZ Scorpion Evo 3 A1 - 9x19mm

CZ Scorpion Evo 3 S - 9x19mm

CZ Scorpion Evo 3 S1 with suppressor - 9x19mm

CZ Scorpion Evo 3 S1 Pistol, fitted with 20 round magazine and hand stop - 9x19mm

CZ Scorpion Evo 3 S1 Carbine with faux suppressor - 9x19mm

CZ Scorpion Evo 3 S1 Carbine with muzzle brake - 9x19mm

CZ Scorpion Evo 3 S1 Carbine (early model) with Manticore Arms 15" M-LOK handguard - 9x19mm

CZ Scorpion Evo 3 S1 Carbine with Extended M-LOK handguard - 9x19mm

CZ Scorpion Evo 3 S1 with Innovative Arms SC9 integral suppressor - 9x19mm

CZ Scorpion Evo 3 S2 Micro with 4.12" barrel and SBTEVO folding brace - 9x19mm

CZ Scorpion Evo 3 S2 Micro Pistol - 9x19mm

CZ Scorpion Evo 3 S2 Micro, newer version with 5.5" barrel and folding/telescopic stock - 9x19mm

CZ-USA Scorpion Evo 3 S1 FDE - 9x19mm

CZ Scorpion 3+ Micro - 9x19mm Parabellum

CZ Scorpion 3+ SBR - 9x19mm Parabellum

Screen-Used Variants

CZ Scorpion Evo 3 S1 with Aimpoint Micro T-1 red dot sight - 9x19mm. This is the screen-used weapon carried by Michelle Lukes. This is an early model S1 which still features a large number of earlier S type parts.

Discussion

Name

Why is called Evo 3? There are Evo and Evo 2 too? --Dannyguns (talk) 06:03, 3 December 2016 (EST)

Very old question, but I came across soemthing the other day that might answer it. There was a prototype version of the Skoripion called the XCZ 868 that was in 9x19mm and tried to turn it into a full size SMG or carbine, and apparently this was referred to as the "Evo 2". It never went anywhere though, but when they made the "new" Scorpion they seem to have decided to jump off of this numbering.--commando552 (talk) 13:40, 29 June 2020 (EDT)

Thank you!--Dannyguns (talk) 19:07, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Page is wrong

I just watched a forgotten weapons video on this, and turns out that we (along with most of the internet) have the models of this gun screwed up. What we call the CZ Scorpion Evo 3 is actually the Laugo M8A, and the Evo 3 is split into the A and A1 models which can actually be told apart most of the time as there are visible differences. To make matters worse though the civillian models are super confusing as there are corresponding S and S1 version of the auto guns, but it seems that the early S1s were using up remaining S and A parts so although marked S1 they can still mostly have S features and parts. I'm going to try and sort it out but though I should explain here so incase anybody wonders what is going on. --commando552 (talk) 09:14, 8 August 2022 (EDT)

That revelation about the A / A1 nomenclature difference is surprising, considering that CZ themselves have been referring the earlier A version as "A1" (heck, the weapon actually has A1 markings). By the way, I noticed that the Evo 3 A picture that we have on the page is an early version with a different folding stock mechanism compared to the production version. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 13:25, 8 August 2022 (EDT)

It may be the A1s are the same as the S1s in that the early versions have a mix of old and new parts. For example that one above has the new selector and hand stop, but the old sights and magazine catch. The receivers on these confuse me, as it seems bizare that at some point they altered the mould to change the markings from "CZ SORPION A" to "CZ SCORPION EVO 3 A1" but kept the old sling loop design, and then later did a new mould for the new sling loop design. I'm also starting to think that there may be a difference in the Czech guns and the guns that you get for CZ USA, as the current image on the CZ USA site for the Evo 3 A1 has the A style mag catch and a receiver that at first glance looks like an A as it has the sling slot, but the swivel hoop looks like it is beefed up so there may be something weird where the US receivers are actually different to the Czech ones. --commando552 (talk) 17:52, 8 August 2022 (EDT)

Coming back to this, the image on the CZ USA website is just an old one, it's basically a higher res version of the one we had over a decade ago. Here's an A1 with CZ USA markings, and it has the newer features. Anyway, virtually everywhere on the internet, the production models are identified as A1 and S1 (with the corresponding markings), regardless of their parts, even as early as 2010-2012 ([1], [2], [3]). We can see here a couple of images of the earlier Scorpion A model, which is mentioned as a pre-production version (another picture is seen here). I'm starting to believe that the A and S models indeed were only prototypes, and that the early A1 and S1 models had nearly all parts of the A and S, only to be gradually improved with newer parts later. Maybe the only difference is that, aside from the markings, the A1 / S1 models all have the newer enlarged selector, I'll see if there are exceptions. Thus, I don't think it was correct to identify the guns in multiple of our media pages as A / S models (especially the movies/TV series), unless there's some very clear evidence in favor of this. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 22:25, 16 March 2024 (UTC)