Talk:Enlisted

Unidentified weapon

Cannon # 01

I found something like that in the Normandy campaign. Is it a cannon?--Emto_PL (talk) 06:08, 7 November 2021 (EST)

I guess it's a rangefinder. Something like this one. --Greg-Z (talk) 07:12, 7 November 2021 (EST)

Here is the particular model. --Nanomat (talk) 11:23, 7 November 2021 (EST)

Mine

What is this model of a mine? Found on a beach in normandy. --Emto_PL (talk) 08:08, 26 November 2021 (EST)

Cannon # 02

What is this cannon. Found on the "stalingrad" map. --Emto_PL (talk) 06:49, 13 April 2022 (EDT)

85 mm Air Defense Gun M1939 (52-K). --Greg-Z (talk) 07:15, 13 April 2022 (EDT)

Cannon # 03

What is this cannon. Found on the "stalingrad" map. --Emto_PL (talk) 06:37, 19 April 2022 (EDT)

I noticed that it has been marked as 37mm 1-K on the page. I wonder what are the specific features to identify it? The main difference between this cannon and the 1-K is the wheels, and this type of wheel model has appeared on the 53-K but not 1-K (pictures: Polish web + English web). A slightly less obvious feature is the cannon breech (like a Pak 36 style, pictures according to this and this two Russian webs), which is also different from the models in the game. - Hanxi Channel (talk) 22:52, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

OKB-15

The PPSh-40. In game has a Name PPSh-40 (Pistoliet Puliemiot Shpitalny 1940). Someone has some articles about it. Because it's hard to find something on the Internet.

OKB-15 - 7.62x25mm Tokarev

--Emto_PL (talk) 03:43, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

I believe that "PPSh-40" is a hypothetical service name, after all, it ultimately lost to PPSh-41. In the game it actually avoid to use "PPSh-40" but a less formal "PP Shpitalniy 1940/ПП Шпитального 1940" to express this is a SMG (PP) developed by Shpitalniy in 1940, in order to make it easier to distinguish from PPSh-41. I support to use the name "OKB-15/ОКБ-15" as it is accurate to the state of the weapon as a prototype. - Hanxi Channel (talk) 23:19, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

OKB-15 is the design office that created this model. But the hospital attendant was its designer. This weapon never received an official name. According to the nomenclature of the prototypes of those years, the name PPSh-40 is 100% correct. And it matches the rest of the weapon prototypes included on imfdb. It would be more correct to call this weapon "Shpitalny PPSh-40" to distinguish it from the "Shpagin PPSh-40". Yes, Spaghyn also had the PPSh-40 model. This is the model that took part in the competition.--Emto (talk) 09:14, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

?? Naval Gun in Normandy

Can someone say this is a weapon?

Naval Gun in game.

Naval Gun in game.

Naval Gun in game.

Naval Gun in game.

FG42/II / Sniper rifle ?

Hello. Can a weapon like the FG42 / II (ZF4 Scope) be considered a sniper rifle?--Emto_PL (talk) 06:21, 30 March 2022 (EDT)

Not really - it wasn't formally considered a sniper rifle, and doesn't exactly have the accuracy to be one either. To be honest, the entire sniper rifle section here is largely unnecessary - most "sniper rifles" of the WWII era were simply existing bolt-action and semi-automatic infantry rifles fitted with scopes, so you're essentially making a whole separate section on the page for the exact same guns with an added attachment. You could just merge the sniper variants into their unscoped counterparts' sections and it would be fine. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 06:33, 30 March 2022 (EDT)

This is what I was thinking about connecting these sections, because apart from the scopes, they do not differ in any way. As for the "Barrett M82A1M" gun. Treat it as a sniper rifle or put it in the "Anti Material rifles" section?--Emto_PL (talk) 06:44, 30 March 2022 (EDT)

Regarding modern weapons

Shouldn't they technically be separated somehow from all the actual in-game weapons? They were available only during a single event and in editor (and as such, on some custom maps) Lunar Watcher (talk) 04:34, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

If a given weapon is / was available in the game, it appears here on the page. This is not gamepedia.--Emto_PL (talk) 18:11, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

I'm inclined to agree - an argument could've been made back immediately after the event ended, since the modern weapons were no longer available in any reasonable way, but currently, they're directly accessible through an in-game function (the level editor), which makes them fair game in my book. (Also, on a related note: are the futuristic energy weapons from the old April Fools' Day event also accessible in the editor? I think some of them have parts of actual guns in them, which would make them worth mentioning IMO.) Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 18:25, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Yes. Is available. I can add them to the page.--Emto_PL (talk) 19:34, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

I see Lunar Watcher (talk) 10:26, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

They can be used through mods in custom battles. But I think they should not be placed together with regular, "officially supported" weapons, as having too many items can be tiring. - Hanxi Channel (talk) 19:05, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

If a weapon has appeared in the game, it is made available here on the site. Gamepedia helps divide weapons into official and unofficial ones. And IMFDB is not a gamepedia.--Emto (talk) 19:54, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

If you want you can edit the gamepedia. Use screenshots from this page. I made 100% of the screenshots. https://enlisted.fandom.com/wiki/Enlisted_Wiki --Emto (talk) 19:58, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

It is true. Sometimes it's easy to forget the boundary between gamepedia and encyclopedia of items in-game. The topic is about modern weapons, but what I want to discuss is actually those April Fool's weapons (mentioned in Talk, sorry for the location I replied to may have been a bit confusing), not things about make a gamepedia. I'll set another topic for this. - Hanxi Channel (talk) 20:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Made April Fool's weapons a separate classification?

They are fictional based on real weapons, and their working methods are completely different (like the "PPSh-41W" is somewhat more a flamethrower) and far from reality, but still attached to real types of firearms in this page. Additionally, they only appear in limited time events and will not be used in official games. Since they do have real-world references, they should not (but can) be removed like Ray Gun in CoD, but I believe that a plasma gun should not be placed under the title of a self-loading rifle, and displaying them together with real weapons is not conducive to education. I'm not sure if there are precedents on IMFDB, but I suggest categorizing them separately or deleting them. - Hanxi Channel (talk) 21:16, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Eh, I'd say that they should stay where they are - a decent precedent (that comes to mind at the moment) would be Fallout: New Vegas's "Laser RCW", which is listed with the game's actual Thompson due to it being, for all practical purposes, a dressed-up Thompson that fires lasers in-game. Just because the PPSh-41W functions differently from an actual PPSh-41 in-game, doesn't mean that it isn't, for all practical purposes, a dressed-up PPSh-41 submachine gun; accordingly, it wouldn't make much sense to put it anywhere else. To put it another way, if a game had a regular M16A1, and then a silly decorated version that was reloaded through the muzzle and fired pineapples, we would still list it as a sub-entry under the regular M16A1, since that's what it's physically based on, regardless of its in-game functionality. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 02:59, 18 May 2024 (UTC)