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− | |name = Bonnot's Gang<br>La bande à Bonnot | + | |name = ''Bonnot's Gang''<br>''La bande à Bonnot'' |
|picture = La Bande a Bonnot Poster.jpg | |picture = La Bande a Bonnot Poster.jpg | ||
|caption = ''French Poster'' | |caption = ''French Poster'' | ||
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= Revolvers = | = Revolvers = | ||
== Llama Ruby Extra == | == Llama Ruby Extra == | ||
− | When Jules Bonnot ([[Bruno Cremer]]) meets with Raymond, Carouy and Soudy who | + | When Jules Bonnot ([[Bruno Cremer]]) meets with Raymond, Carouy and Soudy, who tries to steal his suitcase, he draws a snub nose revolver that resembles an anachronistic [[Smith & Wesson Model 10HB]]. Octave Garnier ([[Jean-Pierre Kalfon]]) holds a similar revolver, among other weapons, during the final shootout. Police detectives also use similar guns in several scenes. Only a single gun is seen at a time so it is probably a single prop being reused. Judging by the shape of the front sight that differs from a Model 10, the revolver may be a [[Ruby Extra]], a Llama produced variant of Model 10. |
[[File:Ruby Extra Snub Nose.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Llama Ruby Extra with 2.5" barrel - .38 Special]] | [[File:Ruby Extra Snub Nose.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Llama Ruby Extra with 2.5" barrel - .38 Special]] | ||
[[File:BandeBonnot-Revolver1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bonnot draws the revolver and demands his suitcase back. The bottom chambers of the revolver seem to be empty while the chamber on top looks loaded.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-Revolver1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bonnot draws the revolver and demands his suitcase back. The bottom chambers of the revolver seem to be empty while the chamber on top looks loaded.]] | ||
− | [[File:BandeBonnot-Revolver1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A police detective, disguised as a fisherman, aims a snub nose revolver at André Soudy | + | [[File:BandeBonnot-Revolver1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A police detective, disguised as a fisherman, aims a snub nose revolver at André Soudy while he rests at the seaside.]] |
[[File:BandeBonnot-Revolver1-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another view of the detective's revolver.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-Revolver1-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another view of the detective's revolver.]] | ||
[[File:BandeBonnot-Revolver1-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The shape of the front sight can be seen.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-Revolver1-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The shape of the front sight can be seen.]] | ||
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[[File:BandeBonnot-MAS1892-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-MAS1892-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[File:BandeBonnot-MAS1892-10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bonnot reloads his revolver.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-MAS1892-10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bonnot reloads his revolver.]] | ||
− | [[File:BandeBonnot-MAS1892-11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Garnier with an Mle 1892 revolver and Bonnot with an Mle 1892 revolver and an FN 1903 pistol | + | [[File:BandeBonnot-MAS1892-11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Garnier with an Mle 1892 revolver and Bonnot with an Mle 1892 revolver and an FN 1903 pistol hit the deck when under fire from a machine gun.]] |
[[File:BandeBonnot-MAS1892-12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bonnot dual-wields his guns.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-MAS1892-12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bonnot dual-wields his guns.]] | ||
− | == Unidentified | + | == Unidentified Revolver == |
− | During the robbery of a collection clerk, Raymond la Science ([[Jacques Brel]]) is armed with a nickel plated revolver. It resembles [[Mle 1892]] but seems to be rather compact. | + | During the robbery of a collection clerk, Raymond la Science ([[Jacques Brel]]) is armed with a nickel-plated revolver. It resembles [[Mle 1892]] but seems to be rather compact. |
[[File:BandeBonnot-Revolver2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-Revolver2-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[File:BandeBonnot-Revolver2-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Raymond holds the revolver while trying to unfasten the cash bag from the clerk's hand.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-Revolver2-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Raymond holds the revolver while trying to unfasten the cash bag from the clerk's hand.]] | ||
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= Pistols = | = Pistols = | ||
== FN Model 1903 == | == FN Model 1903 == | ||
− | A favoured handgun of Jules Bonnot ([[Bruno Cremer]]) is an [[FN Model 1903]] pistol. Édouard Carouy ([[François Dyrek]]) holds an FN 1903 during the first robbery | + | A favoured handgun of Jules Bonnot ([[Bruno Cremer]]) is an [[FN Model 1903]] pistol. Édouard Carouy ([[François Dyrek]]) holds an FN 1903 during the first robbery committed by the gang. |
[[Image:Browning 1903.jpg|thumb|none|300px|FN Browning Model 1903 - 9x20mm Browning Long]] | [[Image:Browning 1903.jpg|thumb|none|300px|FN Browning Model 1903 - 9x20mm Browning Long]] | ||
[[File:BandeBonnot-FN1903-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bonnot draws an FN 1903 pistol when the gang breaks into a rich house.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-FN1903-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bonnot draws an FN 1903 pistol when the gang breaks into a rich house.]] | ||
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In several scenes, Raymond la Science ([[Jacques Brel]]) holds a nickel plated, engraved [[FN Model 1910]] pistol with pearl grips. The pistol is also briefly held by Maria la Belge ([[Annie Girardot]]). | In several scenes, Raymond la Science ([[Jacques Brel]]) holds a nickel plated, engraved [[FN Model 1910]] pistol with pearl grips. The pistol is also briefly held by Maria la Belge ([[Annie Girardot]]). | ||
[[File:FN Model 1910 stainless with ivory grip.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Stainless M1910 with ivory grips - 7.65mm]] | [[File:FN Model 1910 stainless with ivory grip.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Stainless M1910 with ivory grips - 7.65mm]] | ||
− | [[File:BandeBonnot-FN1910-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In the scene | + | [[File:BandeBonnot-FN1910-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|In the scene on the train from Brussels to Paris, Raymond gives his pistol to Maria.]] |
− | [[File:BandeBonnot-FN1910-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Raymond carelessly plays with his pistol | + | [[File:BandeBonnot-FN1910-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Raymond carelessly plays with his pistol, resulting in the fall and accidental discharge of the gun.]] |
[[File:BandeBonnot-FN1910-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The pistol on the floor.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-FN1910-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The pistol on the floor.]] | ||
[[File:BandeBonnot-FN1910-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Raymond, getting scolded by Bonnot, puts the pistol back in his pocket.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-FN1910-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Raymond, getting scolded by Bonnot, puts the pistol back in his pocket.]] | ||
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== FN Model 1922 == | == FN Model 1922 == | ||
− | In various scenes, anachronistic [[FN Model 1922]] pistols are used by nearly all members of the gang - Jules Bonnot ([[Bruno Cremer]]), Raymond la Science ([[Jacques Brel]]), Octave Garnier ([[Jean-Pierre Kalfon]]) and Édouard Carouy ([[François Dyrek]]). Raymond also holds a nickel plated FN 1922 with pearl grips when he fires at a policeman who stopped the gang's car. Louis Jouin (Armand Mestral), the vice-chief of the ''Sûreté'' (French criminal police) who is in charge of the hunt for the gang, as well as a number of his subordinates also use FN Model 1922 pistols. | + | In various scenes, anachronistic [[FN Model 1922]] pistols are used by nearly all members of the gang - Jules Bonnot ([[Bruno Cremer]]), Raymond la Science ([[Jacques Brel]]), Octave Garnier ([[Jean-Pierre Kalfon]]), and Édouard Carouy ([[François Dyrek]]). Raymond also holds a nickel plated FN 1922 with pearl grips when he fires at a policeman who stopped the gang's car. Louis Jouin (Armand Mestral), the vice-chief of the ''Sûreté'' (French criminal police) who is in charge of the hunt for the gang, as well as a number of his subordinates also use FN Model 1922 pistols. |
[[File:Browning 1922.jpg|thumb|none|300px|FN Model 1922 - .32 ACP]] | [[File:Browning 1922.jpg|thumb|none|300px|FN Model 1922 - .32 ACP]] | ||
[[File:BandeBonnot-FN1922-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Garnier fires at a collection clerk.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-FN1922-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Garnier fires at a collection clerk.]] | ||
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== MAB Model D == | == MAB Model D == | ||
− | During the final shootout, Jules Bonnot ([[Bruno Cremer]]) and Octave Garnier ([[Jean-Pierre Kalfon]]) use [[MAB Model D]] pistols instead of FN 1922s. | + | During the final shootout, Jules Bonnot ([[Bruno Cremer]]) and Octave Garnier ([[Jean-Pierre Kalfon]]) use equally anachronistic [[MAB Model D]] pistols instead of FN 1922s. |
[[File:MAB D.jpg|thumb|300px|none|MAB Model D Type I - .32 ACP]] | [[File:MAB D.jpg|thumb|300px|none|MAB Model D Type I - .32 ACP]] | ||
− | [[File:BandeBonnot-FN1922-13.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bonnot dual-wields MAB Model D pistols during the final shootout. The slide of one of the pistols stuck before reaching the correct position.]] | + | [[File:BandeBonnot-FN1922-13.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bonnot dual-wields MAB Model D pistols during the final shootout. The slide of one of the pistols has become stuck before reaching the correct position.]] |
[[File:BandeBonnot-FN1922-14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Garnier fires a MAB Model D at police.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-FN1922-14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Garnier fires a MAB Model D at police.]] | ||
== Ruby Pistol == | == Ruby Pistol == | ||
− | In several scenes police detectives carry pistols that | + | In several scenes, police detectives carry pistols that appear to be anachronistic [[Ruby Pistol]]s. Only a single such gun is seen at a time, so probably a single prop is reused. Possibly the same pistol is used by Octave Garnier ([[Jean-Pierre Kalfon]]) during the bank robbery in Chantilly although it is seen unclearly. |
[[File:French-Pistol-Ruby-M1915-left.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Gabilondo Ruby - .32 ACP]] | [[File:French-Pistol-Ruby-M1915-left.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Gabilondo Ruby - .32 ACP]] | ||
[[File:BandeBonnot-Pistol1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A police detective in center holds a Ruby pistol during the forensic experiment.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-Pistol1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A police detective in center holds a Ruby pistol during the forensic experiment.]] | ||
[[File:BandeBonnot-Pistol1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A similar pistol is seen in hands of Garnier during the robbery. He dual-wields it with an FN 1922 pistol.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-Pistol1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A similar pistol is seen in hands of Garnier during the robbery. He dual-wields it with an FN 1922 pistol.]] | ||
− | [[File:BandeBonnot-Pistol1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the arrest of Soudy, | + | [[File:BandeBonnot-Pistol1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the arrest of Soudy, a similar looking pistol is held by a police detective at the left.]] |
− | [[File:BandeBonnot-Pistol1-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px| | + | [[File:BandeBonnot-Pistol1-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another similar looking pistol is seen in the hands of a detective at the right during the arrest of Carouy.]] |
[[File:BandeBonnot-Pistol1-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another view of the same pistol.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-Pistol1-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another view of the same pistol.]] | ||
− | [[File:BandeBonnot-Pistol1-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the final shootout, | + | [[File:BandeBonnot-Pistol1-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the final shootout, what may be the pistol is seen on the floor together with an FN 1922 pistol and a lot of spent ammo.]] |
= Shotguns = | = Shotguns = | ||
== Winchester Model 1897 Trench Gun == | == Winchester Model 1897 Trench Gun == | ||
− | During the robbery of a gun store, Bonnot obtains a [[Winchester Model 1897 Trench Gun|Winchester Model 1897 shotgun in Trench Gun configuration]] | + | During the robbery of a gun store, Bonnot obtains a [[Winchester Model 1897 Trench Gun|Winchester Model 1897 shotgun in Trench Gun configuration]], a configuration which didn't exist yet in pre-WWI years. The gun store manager describes the weapon (rather ludicrously and contradictorily) as "a rifle for hunting elephants, a repeating 12 gauge, 5-shot with explosive bullets". The shotgun seems to have some minor differences from the real weapon, so it may be some kind of replica. What is especially strange, when the manager shows the gun to Bonnot, he loads it with rifle ammunition that looks similar (but not exactly the same) to 8x50mmR Lebel with round- or flat-nose bullets. The tips of the bullets are painted in blue which can be seen on some hunting ammunition ([https://www.armedconflicts.com/attachments/25559/8x50R_Lebel_1.jpg the cartridge in center on the photo] is one such hunting design from Societe Francaise de Munitions, Paris).<br> |
− | In the following scenes the heat shield and the bayonet lug are partially removed from the shotgun. The weapon is used by André Soudy (Dominique Maurin) until his arrest. [https://secure-referentiel.nouvelobs.com/file/4434782.jpg In real life] Soudy who was known as ''l’homme a la carabine'' (" | + | In the following scenes the heat shield and the bayonet lug are partially removed from the shotgun. The weapon is used by André Soudy (Dominique Maurin) until his arrest. [https://secure-referentiel.nouvelobs.com/file/4434782.jpg In real life] Soudy who was known as ''l’homme a la carabine'' ("the man with the carbine") used a [[Winchester Model 1907]], which was a very modern weapon in 1911. |
− | [[Image:Winchester1897TrenchTakedown.jpg|thumb|none| | + | [[Image:Winchester1897TrenchTakedown.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Winchester Model 1897 "Trench Gun" - 12 gauge. This is an original mint condition 1935 manufacture commercial trench gun by Winchester.]] |
[[File:BandeBonnot-Winchester1897Trench-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The store manager (François Moro-Giafferi) takes the Winchester 1897 Trench Gun from the gun rack.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-Winchester1897Trench-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The store manager (François Moro-Giafferi) takes the Winchester 1897 Trench Gun from the gun rack.]] | ||
[[File:BandeBonnot-Winchester1897Trench-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|He shows the gun to Bonnot and describes it in the most flattering way.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-Winchester1897Trench-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|He shows the gun to Bonnot and describes it in the most flattering way.]] | ||
[[File:BandeBonnot-Winchester1897Trench-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good view of the Winchester. The hammer is barely seen, being lowered.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-Winchester1897Trench-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good view of the Winchester. The hammer is barely seen, being lowered.]] | ||
[[File:BandeBonnot-Winchester1897Trench-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The store manager puts the ammunition on the table. These are not shotgun shells but rather Lebel rifle cartridges.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-Winchester1897Trench-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The store manager puts the ammunition on the table. These are not shotgun shells but rather Lebel rifle cartridges.]] | ||
− | [[File:BandeBonnot-Winchester1897Trench-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|He loads two rifle cartridges | + | [[File:BandeBonnot-Winchester1897Trench-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|He loads two rifle cartridges into the Winchester(!).]] |
[[File:BandeBonnot-Winchester1897Trench-10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The store manager passes the now loaded Winchester to Bonnot. The hammer spur is in raised position.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-Winchester1897Trench-10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The store manager passes the now loaded Winchester to Bonnot. The hammer spur is in raised position.]] | ||
[[File:BandeBonnot-Winchester1897Trench-12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Manager: ''Elephant's skin is particularly resistant, but I guarantee a big hole.''<br> | [[File:BandeBonnot-Winchester1897Trench-12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Manager: ''Elephant's skin is particularly resistant, but I guarantee a big hole.''<br> | ||
Bonnot: ''What would happen to your skin?'']] | Bonnot: ''What would happen to your skin?'']] | ||
[[File:BandeBonnot-Winchester1897Trench-13.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bonnot gives the shotgun to André Soudy (Dominique Maurin).]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-Winchester1897Trench-13.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bonnot gives the shotgun to André Soudy (Dominique Maurin).]] | ||
− | [[File:BandeBonnot-Winchester1897Trench-14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Soudy unwraps the shotgun when the gang prepares for the attack | + | [[File:BandeBonnot-Winchester1897Trench-14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Soudy unwraps the shotgun when the gang prepares for the attack on a collection clerk. The heat shield is now removed completely, and the bayonet lug is removed partially.]] |
− | [[File:BandeBonnot-Winchester1897Trench-17.jpg|thumb|none|600px|When Soudy is arrested, his shotgun is seen in hands of a police detective.]] | + | [[File:BandeBonnot-Winchester1897Trench-17.jpg|thumb|none|600px|When Soudy is arrested, his shotgun is seen in the hands of a police detective.]] |
== Double Barreled Shotgun == | == Double Barreled Shotgun == | ||
− | Numerous double barreled shotguns are seen in the gun store. During the final shootout, Maria la Belge ([[Annie Girardot]]) fires a [[Double Barreled Shotgun]] with exposed hammers that is then used by Jules Bonnot ([[Bruno Cremer]]) and Octave Garnier ([[Jean-Pierre Kalfon]]). Judging by the rather intricate shape of the trigger guard and the short handguard with the underlever, this is a genuine mid to late 19th century production, possibly a Lefaucheux system pinfire gun, converted to more modern ammunition (the hammers match | + | Numerous double barreled shotguns are seen in the gun store. During the final shootout, Maria la Belge ([[Annie Girardot]]) fires a [[Double Barreled Shotgun]] with exposed hammers that is then used by Jules Bonnot ([[Bruno Cremer]]) and Octave Garnier ([[Jean-Pierre Kalfon]]). Judging by the rather intricate shape of the trigger guard and the short handguard with the underlever, this is a genuine mid to late 19th century production, possibly a Lefaucheux system pinfire gun, converted to more modern ammunition (the hammers match ones used on a centerfire gun, not a pinfire). |
[[File:BandeBonnot-Shotgun-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Numerous shotguns, most of those hammerless, are seen in the gun store.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-Shotgun-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Numerous shotguns, most of those hammerless, are seen in the gun store.]] | ||
− | [[File:BandeBonnot-Shotgun-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Shotguns, together with several bolt action rifles are seen on the gun rack | + | [[File:BandeBonnot-Shotgun-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Shotguns, together with several bolt-action rifles, are seen on the gun rack in the background.]] |
[[File:BandeBonnot-Shotgun-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Shotguns both hammerless and with exposed hammers are seen in the right section of the gun rack.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-Shotgun-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Shotguns both hammerless and with exposed hammers are seen in the right section of the gun rack.]] | ||
[[File:BandeBonnot-Shotgun-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the final shootout, Maria holds a shotgun.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-Shotgun-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the final shootout, Maria holds a shotgun.]] | ||
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[[File:BandeBonnot-Rifle-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A single barreled shotgun (1) is seen among the guns on another rack.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-Rifle-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A single barreled shotgun (1) is seen among the guns on another rack.]] | ||
− | == Semi Auto Shotgun == | + | == Semi-Auto Shotgun == |
− | What appears to be some semi auto shotgun is seen in the gun store. While [[Browning Auto-5]] already existed in 1911, the screen gun is some more modern weapon, due to the less angular | + | What appears to be some semi-auto shotgun is seen in the gun store. While the [[Browning Auto-5]] already existed in 1911, the screen gun is some more modern weapon, due to the less angular shape. The Manufrance Perfex is a possible, although only educated, guess. |
− | [[File:Manufrance Perfex.jpg|thumb|none| | + | [[File:Manufrance Perfex.jpg|thumb|none|450px|For reference: Manufrance Perfex, semi-auto version of the Manufrance Rapid - 12 gauge. This gun can be seen in French movies of thelate 1960s.]] |
− | [[File:BandeBonnot-Shotgun1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|What appears to be a semi auto shotgun is seen between two double barreled shotguns to the left of the store manager. The receiver seems to have a charging handle, and the handguard also resembles the one of semi auto shotgun.]] | + | [[File:BandeBonnot-Shotgun1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|What appears to be a semi-auto shotgun is seen between two double barreled shotguns to the left of the store manager. The receiver seems to have a charging handle, and the handguard also resembles the one of a semi-auto shotgun.]] |
= Rifles = | = Rifles = | ||
== Berthier Mle 1907/15 == | == Berthier Mle 1907/15 == | ||
− | During the final shootout, the soldiers of Zouave unit are armed with [[Berthier Mle 1907-15]]. Gendarmes also hold Berthier rifles but none of those is seen clear enough to make a guess about a particular model. | + | During the final shootout, the soldiers of the Zouave unit are armed with the [[Berthier Mle 1907-15]]. Gendarmes also hold Berthier rifles but none of those is seen clear enough to make a guess about a particular model. |
− | [[Image:Fusil Mle 1907-15.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Berthier Model 1907-15 Rifle - | + | [[Image:Fusil Mle 1907-15.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Berthier Model 1907-15 Rifle - 8x50mmR]] |
[[File:BandeBonnot-Berthier-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gendarmes at the left hold rifles that are supposed to be some Berthier model.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-Berthier-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gendarmes at the left hold rifles that are supposed to be some Berthier model.]] | ||
[[File:BandeBonnot-Berthier-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Zouave at the right aims a Berthier rifle.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-Berthier-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Zouave at the right aims a Berthier rifle.]] | ||
[[File:BandeBonnot-Berthier-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-Berthier-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
− | [[File:BandeBonnot-Berthier-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Zouave at the foreground takes aim. The straight bolt handle is seen that allows to identify the rifle as Mle 07/15 rather than an Mle 1902 or 1907 that have turned down bolt handles.]] | + | [[File:BandeBonnot-Berthier-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Zouave at the foreground takes aim. The straight bolt handle is seen that allows to identify the rifle as an Mle 07/15 rather than an Mle 1902 or 1907 that have turned down bolt handles.]] |
− | [[File:BandeBonnot-Berthier-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The barrels of Zouaves' rifles are seen in near darkness.]] | + | [[File:BandeBonnot-Berthier-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The barrels of the Zouaves' rifles are seen in near darkness.]] |
− | [[File:BandeBonnot-Berthier-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Several gendarmes aim their rifles | + | [[File:BandeBonnot-Berthier-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Several gendarmes aim their rifles in the foreground.]] |
− | == Unidentified | + | == Unidentified Rifles == |
− | Several bolt action rifles are seen in the gun store. These are some hunting or sporting guns of unclear model(s). | + | Several bolt-action rifles are seen in the gun store. These are some hunting or sporting guns of unclear model(s). |
[[File:BandeBonnot-Rifle-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|At least three bolt action rifles are seen at the left. They all have military style straight bolt handles.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-Rifle-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|At least three bolt action rifles are seen at the left. They all have military style straight bolt handles.]] | ||
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= Machine Guns = | = Machine Guns = | ||
== Hotchkiss Mle 1914 == | == Hotchkiss Mle 1914 == | ||
− | In accordance with the real course of events, the Zouaves deploy a [[Hotchkiss Mle 1914]] machine gun against Bonnot and Garnier (the real machine gun, used during the events, was probably an Mle 1900). Nevertheless, in the firing scenes the Hotchkiss is substituted with an MG08. | + | In accordance with the real course of events, the Zouaves deploy a [[Hotchkiss Mle 1914]] machine gun against Bonnot and Garnier (the real machine gun, used during the events, was probably an Mle 1900). Nevertheless, in the firing scenes, the Hotchkiss is substituted with an MG08. |
− | [[File:M1914Hotchkiss.jpg|thumb|none| | + | [[File:M1914Hotchkiss.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Hotchkiss M1914 with tripod - 8x50mmR Lebel]] |
[[File:BandeBonnot-Hotchkiss1914-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Zouaves carry a Hotchkiss machine gun.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-Hotchkiss1914-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Zouaves carry a Hotchkiss machine gun.]] | ||
[[File:BandeBonnot-Hotchkiss1914-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The barrel of the Hotchkiss machine gun can be seen.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-Hotchkiss1914-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The barrel of the Hotchkiss machine gun can be seen.]] | ||
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An [[MG08]] replaces the Hotchkiss when the Zouaves fire at the house where Bonnot and Garnier make their last stand. The muzzle flashes of the machine gun are rather small and bluish, so possibly the MG08 is a natural gas powered mockup. | An [[MG08]] replaces the Hotchkiss when the Zouaves fire at the house where Bonnot and Garnier make their last stand. The muzzle flashes of the machine gun are rather small and bluish, so possibly the MG08 is a natural gas powered mockup. | ||
[[Image:MaximMG08.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Maxim MG08 on ''Schlittenlafette'' 08 mount - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | [[Image:MaximMG08.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Maxim MG08 on ''Schlittenlafette'' 08 mount - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | ||
− | [[File:BandeBonnot-MG08-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The MG08 fires. The muzzle flash would look different for | + | [[File:BandeBonnot-MG08-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The MG08 fires. The muzzle flash would look different for real, even blank, ammo.]] |
[[File:BandeBonnot-MG08-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the barrel.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-MG08-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the barrel.]] | ||
[[File:BandeBonnot-MG08-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The machine gun fires.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-MG08-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The machine gun fires.]] | ||
− | [[File:BandeBonnot-MG08-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The non-standard carriage is probably made for movie.]] | + | [[File:BandeBonnot-MG08-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The non-standard carriage is probably made for the movie.]] |
= Illustration Sequence = | = Illustration Sequence = | ||
− | The opening and closing credits are held against the background of illustrations from the 1911-1912 issues of the French magazine ''Le Petit Journal''. A number of guns, used by the gang members and the police, can be seen | + | The opening and closing credits are held against the background of illustrations from the 1911-1912 issues of the French magazine ''Le Petit Journal''. A number of guns, used by the gang members and the police, can be seen in these illustrations. |
− | [[File:BandeBonnot-Illustration-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Prefect of Police Louis Lepine personally leads the attack on Bonnot's hideout, firing a revolver. Bonnot's gun resembles a compact semi auto pistol.]] | + | [[File:BandeBonnot-Illustration-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Prefect of Police Louis Lepine personally leads the attack on Bonnot's hideout, firing a revolver. Bonnot's gun resembles a compact semi-auto pistol.]] |
− | [[File:BandeBonnot-Illustration-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Zouaves and gendarmes hold rifles. A rifle in | + | [[File:BandeBonnot-Illustration-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Zouaves and gendarmes hold rifles. A rifle in the hands of a Zouave at the far left is likely meant to be a [[Lebel 1886]].]] |
− | [[File:BandeBonnot-Illustration-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An illustration depicts | + | [[File:BandeBonnot-Illustration-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An illustration depicts a bank robbery committed by the gang. The pistols in the foreground are definitely inspired by the [[FN Model 1900]] while one of the pistols in the background looks similar to an [[FN Model 1910]]. Soudy holds a firearm that resembles a lever-action rifle in the background, right.]] |
[[File:BandeBonnot-Illustration-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A FN 1900 is seen on the enlarged fragment of the illustration.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-Illustration-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A FN 1900 is seen on the enlarged fragment of the illustration.]] | ||
[[File:BandeBonnot-Illustration-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An FN 1900 is seen on another enlarged fragment of the illustration.]] | [[File:BandeBonnot-Illustration-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An FN 1900 is seen on another enlarged fragment of the illustration.]] |
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Bonnot's Gang (La bande à Bonnot) is a 1968 French-Italian historical crime film directed by Philippe Fourastié. It depicts the story of the infamous Bonnot's Gang, a French criminal anarchist group that committed a number of robberies in France and Belgium in 1911-1912.
The following weapons were used in the film Bonnot's Gang (La bande à Bonnot):
Revolvers
Llama Ruby Extra
When Jules Bonnot (Bruno Cremer) meets with Raymond, Carouy and Soudy, who tries to steal his suitcase, he draws a snub nose revolver that resembles an anachronistic Smith & Wesson Model 10HB. Octave Garnier (Jean-Pierre Kalfon) holds a similar revolver, among other weapons, during the final shootout. Police detectives also use similar guns in several scenes. Only a single gun is seen at a time so it is probably a single prop being reused. Judging by the shape of the front sight that differs from a Model 10, the revolver may be a Ruby Extra, a Llama produced variant of Model 10.
St. Etienne Mle 1892
St. Etienne Mle 1892 revolvers are used by Jules Bonnot (Bruno Cremer) and Octave Garnier (Jean-Pierre Kalfon) in several scenes, notably during the final shootout. Police personnel, both plainclothes and uniformed, also use Mle 1892 revolvers.
Unidentified Revolver
During the robbery of a collection clerk, Raymond la Science (Jacques Brel) is armed with a nickel-plated revolver. It resembles Mle 1892 but seems to be rather compact.
Pistols
FN Model 1903
A favoured handgun of Jules Bonnot (Bruno Cremer) is an FN Model 1903 pistol. Édouard Carouy (François Dyrek) holds an FN 1903 during the first robbery committed by the gang.
FN Model 1910
In several scenes, Raymond la Science (Jacques Brel) holds a nickel plated, engraved FN Model 1910 pistol with pearl grips. The pistol is also briefly held by Maria la Belge (Annie Girardot).
FN Model 1922
In various scenes, anachronistic FN Model 1922 pistols are used by nearly all members of the gang - Jules Bonnot (Bruno Cremer), Raymond la Science (Jacques Brel), Octave Garnier (Jean-Pierre Kalfon), and Édouard Carouy (François Dyrek). Raymond also holds a nickel plated FN 1922 with pearl grips when he fires at a policeman who stopped the gang's car. Louis Jouin (Armand Mestral), the vice-chief of the Sûreté (French criminal police) who is in charge of the hunt for the gang, as well as a number of his subordinates also use FN Model 1922 pistols.
MAB Model D
During the final shootout, Jules Bonnot (Bruno Cremer) and Octave Garnier (Jean-Pierre Kalfon) use equally anachronistic MAB Model D pistols instead of FN 1922s.
Ruby Pistol
In several scenes, police detectives carry pistols that appear to be anachronistic Ruby Pistols. Only a single such gun is seen at a time, so probably a single prop is reused. Possibly the same pistol is used by Octave Garnier (Jean-Pierre Kalfon) during the bank robbery in Chantilly although it is seen unclearly.
Shotguns
Winchester Model 1897 Trench Gun
During the robbery of a gun store, Bonnot obtains a Winchester Model 1897 shotgun in Trench Gun configuration, a configuration which didn't exist yet in pre-WWI years. The gun store manager describes the weapon (rather ludicrously and contradictorily) as "a rifle for hunting elephants, a repeating 12 gauge, 5-shot with explosive bullets". The shotgun seems to have some minor differences from the real weapon, so it may be some kind of replica. What is especially strange, when the manager shows the gun to Bonnot, he loads it with rifle ammunition that looks similar (but not exactly the same) to 8x50mmR Lebel with round- or flat-nose bullets. The tips of the bullets are painted in blue which can be seen on some hunting ammunition (the cartridge in center on the photo is one such hunting design from Societe Francaise de Munitions, Paris).
In the following scenes the heat shield and the bayonet lug are partially removed from the shotgun. The weapon is used by André Soudy (Dominique Maurin) until his arrest. In real life Soudy who was known as l’homme a la carabine ("the man with the carbine") used a Winchester Model 1907, which was a very modern weapon in 1911.
Double Barreled Shotgun
Numerous double barreled shotguns are seen in the gun store. During the final shootout, Maria la Belge (Annie Girardot) fires a Double Barreled Shotgun with exposed hammers that is then used by Jules Bonnot (Bruno Cremer) and Octave Garnier (Jean-Pierre Kalfon). Judging by the rather intricate shape of the trigger guard and the short handguard with the underlever, this is a genuine mid to late 19th century production, possibly a Lefaucheux system pinfire gun, converted to more modern ammunition (the hammers match ones used on a centerfire gun, not a pinfire).
Single Barreled Shotgun
Single Barreled Shotguns are also seen in the gun store.
Semi-Auto Shotgun
What appears to be some semi-auto shotgun is seen in the gun store. While the Browning Auto-5 already existed in 1911, the screen gun is some more modern weapon, due to the less angular shape. The Manufrance Perfex is a possible, although only educated, guess.
Rifles
Berthier Mle 1907/15
During the final shootout, the soldiers of the Zouave unit are armed with the Berthier Mle 1907-15. Gendarmes also hold Berthier rifles but none of those is seen clear enough to make a guess about a particular model.
Unidentified Rifles
Several bolt-action rifles are seen in the gun store. These are some hunting or sporting guns of unclear model(s).
Machine Guns
Hotchkiss Mle 1914
In accordance with the real course of events, the Zouaves deploy a Hotchkiss Mle 1914 machine gun against Bonnot and Garnier (the real machine gun, used during the events, was probably an Mle 1900). Nevertheless, in the firing scenes, the Hotchkiss is substituted with an MG08.
Maxim MG08
An MG08 replaces the Hotchkiss when the Zouaves fire at the house where Bonnot and Garnier make their last stand. The muzzle flashes of the machine gun are rather small and bluish, so possibly the MG08 is a natural gas powered mockup.
Illustration Sequence
The opening and closing credits are held against the background of illustrations from the 1911-1912 issues of the French magazine Le Petit Journal. A number of guns, used by the gang members and the police, can be seen in these illustrations.