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::No, being Anachronistic is still relevant to the context of the film. Since the girl is 'dreaming' her worlds, having ANY of those items is understandable, except for the stuff which has not been invented yet. A girl in the 1950s dreaming of a B-25 Bomber and a fire breathing dragon is not anachronistic. Now if they had her make a call on an IPHONE, that would be stupid. The weapons anachronisms only 'work' because they could be things that she dreams someday could be real, but even that's a bit of a cop out. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:27, 30 July 2010 (UTC) | ::No, being Anachronistic is still relevant to the context of the film. Since the girl is 'dreaming' her worlds, having ANY of those items is understandable, except for the stuff which has not been invented yet. A girl in the 1950s dreaming of a B-25 Bomber and a fire breathing dragon is not anachronistic. Now if they had her make a call on an IPHONE, that would be stupid. The weapons anachronisms only 'work' because they could be things that she dreams someday could be real, but even that's a bit of a cop out. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 02:27, 30 July 2010 (UTC) | ||
− | The School girl outfit the lead chick wears might be anachronistic if this takes place in the 50s because I don't believe such a style would exist at the time because the whole "bad girl", slutty girl motif hasn't been invented yet. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:40, 30 July 2010 (UTC) | + | The School girl outfit the lead chick wears might be anachronistic if this takes place in the 50s because I don't believe such a style would exist at the time because the whole "bad girl", slutty girl motif hasn't been invented yet. So pretty much most of the weapons shouldn't even be in the girl's mind because seriously. Hate to seem sexist here, but how many girls does your granddad knows that knows guns enough to imagine guns that would not exist for 40 years? [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 02:40, 30 July 2010 (UTC) |
Revision as of 02:43, 30 July 2010
So they just released the teaser and some hi-res images for this film--thought I'd write down what I saw.
--MP7 with suppressor and red-dot sight --M4/AR-15 with red dot and vertical grip --UMP with suppressor and red-dot --Some kind of shotgun (I wanna say a Mossberg 500 CC with a folding stock, but I could be dead wrong) --Mauser Kar98k --1911 handgun --MP5k --Some kind of flintlock pistol
Anyone else?
Wait, so this movie is about women killing Huns with modern weapons? BeardedHoplite 19:42, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
No...by my understanding all this is happening in one of the girls head...shes a abused teen and uses this fake world to cope with problems and to deal with a escape from a girls special home or something like that.--Spades of Columbia 19:46, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
This had better not END like BRazil :(
The girl has a five day window to escape from the mental institution before she is lobotomized. This film had better not end with her getting lobotomized! Downer endings like that suck! The point is that she and the other girl inmates are trying to figure out how to escape, all within the backdrop of the girl's own dreams about a hero life. MoviePropMaster2008 20:22, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Ah, but I like Brazil's ending, it was a nice change of pace from usual (happier) movie endings BeardedHoplite 21:31, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
- Brazil's ending worked for Brazil. This film could potentially be much more cruel, since the victim of the unjustly administered lobotomy is an abused girl. Though Brazil was a dark look at a totalitarian society, this one could just be an exercise in cruelty. But then I really have a problem with Lobotomies in general. to me it's WORSE than death. MoviePropMaster2008 00:59, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
- I always thought the worst thing you could do to a person you absolutely hated was an icepick lobotomy. That would be much crueler than death, not matter how slow. That being said, who still does lobotomies? Is the film set in the fifties? --funkychinaman 01:22, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
- The 'real world' stories is set in the 1950s, but the fantasy worlds in her head prior to her 'fate' is a mish mash of different dreamworlds. Even though the weapons are anachronistic for her time, since they are all fantasy weapons in her head, it really doesn't bother me being that she is 'dreaming' the weapons and events. MoviePropMaster2008 04:09, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
- I always thought the worst thing you could do to a person you absolutely hated was an icepick lobotomy. That would be much crueler than death, not matter how slow. That being said, who still does lobotomies? Is the film set in the fifties? --funkychinaman 01:22, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
- Brazil's ending worked for Brazil. This film could potentially be much more cruel, since the victim of the unjustly administered lobotomy is an abused girl. Though Brazil was a dark look at a totalitarian society, this one could just be an exercise in cruelty. But then I really have a problem with Lobotomies in general. to me it's WORSE than death. MoviePropMaster2008 00:59, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
And lobotomies aren't exactly rare today either, they still happen. But, just like most medical procedures, it's not like television. Mercer 06:10, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
- WTF are you talking about? On WHAT do you base this comment? Nobody has done lobotomies since the 1960s. Modern Anti psychotic drugs have taken the place of this barbaric surgical procedure. One, the vast majority of Lobotomies done in the world were in either America, Canada, the Scandinavian Countries or the UK. MoviePropMaster2008 06:22, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
- Here's a start http://www.psychologistworld.com/biological/lobotomy.php Not to mention brain tumors. I didn't say it was used in psychological medicine anymore, but is still a medical procedure performed to remove malicious tissue from the brain. I wouldnt just talk out of my ass MPM. Mercer 06:36, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
- But if you wanna call horseshit on it, that's fine. No harm , no foul. =P Mercer 06:39, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
- No whoreshit called ;) , you were talking about lobotomies in the context of the surgical removal of brain tissue. I was talking about a FRONTAL LOBOTOMY which was a scrambling of the frontal lobes as a 'cure' for various mental illnesses. So there WAS No harm no foul, we were talking about TWO different things. MoviePropMaster2008 06:44, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
- But if you wanna call horseshit on it, that's fine. No harm , no foul. =P Mercer 06:39, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Apparently they are still done in France of all places occasionally, at least since 2001 http://www.ccne-ethique.fr/docs/fr/avis071.pdf. I don't know if you read french though. Admittedly it has been a few years since I've been in psychology classes. =P Mercer 06:52, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
- Well that's because they're French. What else don't they do over there? Excalibur01 05:30, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Scary thing is that's just what i could find documentation for. I saw some claims that they're still performed in the US; but since no credible sources jumped out at me on my casual search and any links I post via my school's library database will probably end up as dead for you guys it doesn't seem to be worth the effort to pursue. =P Mercer 07:15, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
It's because of modern medicine, such a procedure is now considered obsolete and unnecessary Excalibur01 15:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
http://media2.slashfilm.com/slashfilm/images/ZZ275A92D4.jpg In the pic you can see Amber (Jaime Chung) has a Glock 17. Good pic of the Bunny robot and its guns.
This movie is gonad suck
I mean from actresses (if you can name em that) their hiring to the idea hell I'm all for girl power but when the hell did girl power mean actual girls I mean think about aliens and all the other movies women are in powerful roles they usually aren't little girl who act in Disney movies, sure there are examples Summer Glau of course but since she was in firefly everyone already associated her with badass
- I love how anonymous posters slam a film they've never seen .... and their spelling usually SUCKS! LOL! MoviePropMaster2008 02:25, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
anachronistic
the look of there imaginary world look like they took fiction, past, present, and future and mash them to gather. this kind of visual style making the idea of anachronistic pointless. we have dragons chasing a B-25 and Robots gunning down WW1 biplanes. so if thinks are out of place, they are there for the visual style. an example if a character is a detective he would be dresses like a 1930s detective so say up fount that he is a detective
- No, being Anachronistic is still relevant to the context of the film. Since the girl is 'dreaming' her worlds, having ANY of those items is understandable, except for the stuff which has not been invented yet. A girl in the 1950s dreaming of a B-25 Bomber and a fire breathing dragon is not anachronistic. Now if they had her make a call on an IPHONE, that would be stupid. The weapons anachronisms only 'work' because they could be things that she dreams someday could be real, but even that's a bit of a cop out. MoviePropMaster2008 02:27, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
The School girl outfit the lead chick wears might be anachronistic if this takes place in the 50s because I don't believe such a style would exist at the time because the whole "bad girl", slutty girl motif hasn't been invented yet. So pretty much most of the weapons shouldn't even be in the girl's mind because seriously. Hate to seem sexist here, but how many girls does your granddad knows that knows guns enough to imagine guns that would not exist for 40 years? Excalibur01 02:40, 30 July 2010 (UTC)