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The following weapons appear in both versions of the video game Super Smash Bros. 4 unless stated otherwise:

Super Smash Bros. 4 (2014)


Remington 1866 Derringer

Two of the characters from the 1984 NES game Wild Gunmen, appearing during the Duck Hunt Dog's Down Special Attack and his Final Smash, use pixelated handguns that match the shape of Remington 1866 Derringers.

Remington 1866 Derringer - .41 R.F. Caliber.
One of the Wild Gunmen firing his Remington 1866 Derringer. None of the Gunmen in their original game had graphics that turned sideways. As a result, these sideways graphics were crated just for Super Smash Bros 4.

Single Action Army

In the 3DS version of the game, the trophy of Gallo, Boone, and Nomad, characters from Dillon's Rolling Western: The Last Ranger, shows Gallo with a Single Action Army with a brass finish.

Colt Single Action Army - .45 Long Colt
Gallo holding his Single Action Army revolver.

Sawn Off Shotgun

Some of the Wild Gunmen and Boone in the 3DS version carry Sawn Off Shotguns, both of which are of unknown make and model.

Remington Spartan Sawed Off shotgun - 12 gauge
A Wild Gunman firing his Sawn Off Shotgun to the right.
Another Wild Gunman firing his Sawn Off Shotgun to the left. Note the wooden handguard showing that the weapon is suppose to be a Sawn Off Shotgun.
Boone with his Sawn Off Shotgun over his shoulder.

Mosin Nagant

Nomad carries a scoped Mosin Nagant rifle as seen on his trophy in the 3DS version.

Mosin Nagant M91/30 Sniper Rifle with scope - 7.62x54mm R
Nomad with his scoped Mosin Nagant.
Cardboard cutouts from the NES game Hogan's Ally are also seen with firearms but none of them clear enough for a proper ID.

The ones on the left and right are really blocky Thompsons with drum magazines (because gangsters) and the one in the middle looks like one of those ones with a cork on a string in it. But I still wouldn't put these up, cartoony Thompsons are in a ton of things we wouldn't really want to have on the site. Evil Tim (talk) 07:57, 5 January 2015 (EST)

Discussion

Really?

Are you serious with this? Gotta admit I LOLed at the statement on that thumbnail above, but only because NONE of the guns you've shown can be properly ID'd, as this site defines it, anyway. The Derringer and Shotgun are bits of roughly-shaped sprite art - big pixel blocks - and that's it. They might have the general shape of such weapons, but that's being generous, and even so, they have NO details, nothing that can positively ID them as anything other than a rough shape of a gun. They're even less-detailed than Looney Tunes cartoon guns, which as you'll note in the rules, aren't allowed because they aren't detailed enough. Granted that's for the Animation section but I think it applies to animation in games as well. If it can't be ID'd more specifically than a shape or type of firearm, don't think it can be included. Even the guns on the trophy image, which are better-detailed, still aren't detailed enough to make definitive IDs (the rifle doesn't look at all like a Mosin to me, what I can make of it, and the Six-Shooter is little more detailed than a Yosemite Sam gun). All-told, I don't see how any of this can be considered for inclusion. Frankly I get peeved when people want to put otherwise good effort on such inane titles of media when there are plenty of other valid/potentially valid pages that could use the help. But I'm ranting now. Bottom-line, this page doesn't seem to warrant being on the site - I hope the admins won't mind if I put the 'SpeedyDelete' tag on the page, but it seems prudent, frankly. StanTheMan (talk) 22:28, 4 January 2015 (EST)

I didn't add the cartoon guns rule to games because I didn't think it would be needed, but sure, it's just common sense that a representation of a type of gun rather than a model of gun is impossible to ID (I'm fairly sure that first one is actually meant to be a revolver given it makes no sense for a "wild gunman" to have a derringer, anyway). The rifle is probably the only one that's close to qualifying (I think it's closer to a Springfield, but it's not really clear), and I'm not really sure it's worth having a page for a game where the only real-looking weapon can't be clearly identified and is featured in such an utterly incidental way, even if it's a big release for the platform. Evil Tim (talk) 03:02, 5 January 2015 (EST)



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