User talk:Predator20

RE: SIG cont.

It looks pretty nice! I've always loved the "reverse" two-tone SIGs (like the one in 2 Fast 2 Furious). That being said, if it says "Made in West Germany", that means it was made before 1989. Are you OK buying such an old gun that you can't inspect up-close? I'm kinda paranoid about buying guns that I can't inspect first, but if you're OK with it, then go for it. It's definitely a good-looking piece, and I think no gun collection without a SIG is ever complete (though I have an obvious bias).

Also, CCR does a great job on finishes (my 226 had its slide re-finished by them). If they did any work on the gun, it's probably in good shape, but personally, I would rather try it before I buy it. -MT2008 13:35, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

The checkered style gives a better grip, but you can't use the newer trigger bar springs with them (only the old ones, which have a tendency to break after extended usage). My recommendation is that when you get the gun, ditch the "pebble" grips and put on a set of Hogues (provided your hand is big enough). That's what I've got on my 226 right now. -MT2008 00:27, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, but I like the two-tone one better. I think you made the right choice. And yeah, don't get the finger groove Hogues, those are too big. The regular Hogues are also pretty thick, but they do improve the grip. In my opinion, they're superior to the factory grips. -MT2008 22:42, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

RE:

Blocked him. Thanks. -MT2008 23:26, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

I would need to see either the receivers or the sight to be sure. If they're real guns, they're most likely to be Norinco Type 56s. But if they're replicas, probably Hudson model gun AK-47s. Also, hope you enjoy the SIG; post pics when you get it! -MT2008 01:07, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Looked at 'em closely. They have milled receivers, so my guess is that they're the Hudson AK-47 replicas. When there's multiple types of a certain weapon in a scene, you're usually looking at replicas of some sort. Like, if there's a cache of M16s, there's usually going to be some MGC replicas. Same with the AKs. -MT2008 02:48, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

They are NOT Hudsons. I have Hudsons. I will post a pic of a Hudson soon. Those are .22 LR clones (not the new ones, but the old ones from the 1980s). Not Armscorp but I think some other company, perhaps Armi-Jager. The handguards are indicative of the strange .22LR clones of the AK from decades ago. MoviePropMaster2008 01:02, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Corrected that problem. Also, hope you get the SIG soon. At least you live in a state that has sane handgun laws. NC's are just...well, retarded. Oh, and happy 4th! -MT2008 23:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Got 'em. In the future, though, can you also put the delete tag on them? I'm kinda busy this week (on the road a lot) and don't know how often I can be on the site. If you put the delete tag on, then at least another admin can get them if I'm not around.

Can't wait to see the SIG. Hope it serves you well. -MT2008 20:57, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Just put [[Category:Delete]] on the picture (hit "Edit" and type it in). You can still point me to it, but this way, if I'm not around, someone else might see it. This is the page listing all the stuff with the Delete tag: http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Category:Delete -MT2008 21:07, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Featured Article

Sure, feel free to edit the photos. bunni 02:18, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Pinko

Well the guy is definitely British, or some kind of influence in his language. I know they are the only countries that calls us Americans "Yanky", but the way he writes is definite up there and only UK uses the worse arse Excalibur01 16:51, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for heads up. I'll check my other uploads. --Ben41 00:11, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Re: Hunter

I've actually been considering making it a featured article; should I do it by season or the show as a whole? I'd go by season but I don't know if that'd be wise since not many people have heard of it. Then again, it may be a nice way to introduce people to the show and show off some of the various firearms used. What would you recommend? - Speakeasy804 15:41, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

New anonymous member

I checked ALL of the other edits and everything else seems okay. it seems like he's learning the system and how to edit on IMFDB. That one you caught is a pretty big screwup, but so far none of the other edits are vandalism. I will try to keep an eye on him, but he must just be another noob who is unsure how to do the pages correctly. MoviePropMaster2008 02:09, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

RE:

Thanks for that info. I'm suddenly not sure whether I should do anything, though. As far as I'm concerned, if the people who wanted me to take down the original image want to get angry at this other guy, that's his problem. -MT2008 23:40, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Admin

Hey, Brian, I have a question: Do you want an Administrator position? I think you're actually overdue for the promotion, and we need good people like you on the Admin team. If you want, I can email Bunni to ask him to give you the new status. -MT2008 01:33, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Good idea! I also asked Ben41 if he wanted it. -MT2008 01:42, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the vote of confidence

Thanks for putting in the good word. Guess we're going to have to learn something new. Should be fun. --Jcordell 02:15, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Admin rights

you has em. WikiSysop 16:05, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

BTW - a belated Congratulations on your promotion to Mod

Now you will have to fight the trolls/idiots/fanboys even MORE! hahahahaha(evil laugh). Congratulations!!!! MPM

Delete section

I found a bunch of pages and screenshots not deleted by anyone here: [1]. Unfortunately, I rarely see admins go there. - Kenny99 15:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Stan's wacko watch

Hey man, remember me? Maybe not. Interesting how massive one's talk page gets when they become an Admin.. Congrats on that BTW. That said, I figure I'll let you know about this (if you don;t already), and I suppose you can pass it on to MT2008 and the others. Anyway, I think there's a problem with 76.121.27.16 - He's been warned several times before to stop uploading/posting redundant gun images on pages (I just remembered MT was one of the ones who's warned him), yet he's kept on doing it. He's done a handful just earlier today that I've reverted back. I hate tattling on another guy but I have have a feeling I'm not the only one he's annoyed with this crap. The guy does seem to add to the site and all, but I just don't like him continuing to do this stuff, it's kind of irritating. So, well, there ya go. Again, I just remembered MT told about this a few months back, but it seems he didn't care to listen, so, I don't know. StanTheMan 00:16, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Ah, good. Thanks, man. StanTheMan 03:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

I found a vandal 75.31.96.25 - He just made one comment, but it's a rather tasteless one and should probably be hit on the head with the banhammer anyway. Another good anonymous guy edited it out already, but, thought I'd let you know. StanTheMan 16:31, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

- Another one 71.91.170.82 - he's removed content from pages, which I've reversed. I warned him on his talk page but you should probably keep an eye on him. Or just ban him, your choice I guess. StanTheMan 18:27, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

- Got another dude who's apparently flipped his shit lately. However, the dude's made shitty comments elsewhere and I've also had to revert sections he's deleted before, too. - 173.62.63.157. StanTheMan 04:05, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Already terminated MoviePropMaster2008 04:54, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

- Ah. Well, I guess it's nevermind then, Pred. Maybe you'll get the pleasure of the next one, heh. StanTheMan 00:04, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

- I know you got this one already (74.63.112.138), but damn if this comment didn't give me a chuckle (can i request i be a mod? cause you know im awesome so yea. just tell me when thats done k? k...peace bro) Bah. StanTheMan 18:26, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

- Yeah, you have a real fun job, now! ;D StanTheMan 18:44, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Stevens 520/620 Shotgun

The Stevens 520/620 is a John Browning design. The 520 went on the market in 1904 and was discontinued in 1932. The 620 was a more streamlined version. The abrupt angle at the rear of the reciever on the Model 520 was eliminated with the 620.Other than that the 520/620 are mechanically identical. The 520/620 was manufactured in 12, 16 and 20 gauge. The 620 was discontinued in 1955. Both models were avilable in riot configuration and sport/field configuration. I saw you post on Nyles discussion page. Also I think a 520/620 page is a great idea. --Jcordell 02:05, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Stevens 520

As I understand it (and I'm a little fuzzy on the details myself as there's not all that much info available), the 520 was the original model with the stepped receiver, and the 520-30 was the later model with the flat receiver (pictured). Very cool shotguns, actually - they were designed by John Moses Browning and were actually the first side-ejecting hammerless guns on the market. They were made 1904-1932 and then another production run in the 40s for the US Army in trench gun configuration. - Nyles

Russian Spammer

Hahaha. Good job on the ban hammer! You seemed unsure whether or not that Spammer you blocked was really a spammer. I speak Russian and can read it only so so. But that entire blurb was a nonsensical paragraph about how to buy cars. It was definitely SPAM. Funny since our Russian user Kloga has argued that he has 'never seen any Cyrillic Spam on IMFDB' LOL! MoviePropMaster2008 15:41, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Front Page

I added Stargate SG-1 yesterday and was wondering: What articles qualify for the random featuring? Obviously games are out of the question. And they have to have a certain standard. But: Is a certain length (amount of firearms), or completion of details like cross linking (actor pages etc.) necessary, too? I did not find anything about this in the rules. --Milkovich 08:04, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. I´d go with

Fleury takes aim at the terrorists Mercedes.

and

A Saudi police officer with his SIG SG 552.

Also: There seems to be something odd going on with the featured article frame. From time to time the place appears blank. --Milkovich 17:16, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Re: Blank feature article

If I remember correctly, it´s on the FeaturedArticle and the Main page. The thing is that the frame is empty. So I can not tell whether it is a specific movie or just a single line of coding that is messing it up.

btw.: Can only admins redirect pages or change the title of one? Driven To Kill should - according to IMDB - be Driven to Kill. No capital T. --Milkovich 17:52, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Okay. thanks for the head up. --Jcordell 23:35, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

TOC format

What works for me is putting "Film Title" first, putting the poster info right underneath, and then the TOC br clear=all. --Ben41 20:51, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Combining Grindhouse

Since the two films were released overseas and on video as separate films, I think it would be best to keep them as separate pages and put a link to the Grindhouse page. --Ben41 21:43, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

They're already on the page. I done that as one of my first deeds here. :) --Kloga 21:47, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

And how many pictures of Hobo should be scrapped? :( --Kloga 21:50, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

About Hobo - OK, i'll delete something. :) --Kloga 21:55, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Wait, wait, wait! 6 pictures of ALL the trailer is the maximum, or you mean just the Hobo's Shotgun pictures? If the first variety - it's terrible. --Kloga 22:00, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Done. Even 5, not six. :) By the way, I'll found that video of Werewolf Women of the SS is officail - it from Rob Zombie's channel. Can i restore the pictures from this trailer. I was trying to write about it to Ben41, but he's ignoring me. :( --Kloga 22:08, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Beretta 92FS

It was you who identified it in Grindhouse? Just wanted to know how did you do that (if it's you, of course). :) --Kloga 13:55, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer. It's exciting to know such details. I do know, that many guns have their own features, but sometimes it's hard to tell what is that features and it's hard to know all, like that one with the exposed barrell in 92FS.

Also wanted to ask - is it a kind of ethics or something for this site to credit, who recognised the gun (if it's not the permanent writer of an article), like in the Miami Vixe series first season article? --Kloga 21:21, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Re:Total Recall/Goncz

(From above section) Have you checked out the deal with the Total Recall page? I posted a bit extra myself in the Talk page, but, oh man, I really hope it ain't that serious.

I agree, I feel we have an obligation to note the Claridge info as a resource for background on the gun itself. But, I guess that may not remain so. Well, lets just say it got be a bit perturbed. I remember what one banned member (movieman1993 or something) said that 'we wouldn't get legal problems you fools!' or something to that effect. Bah, wish he was here just so we could prove him wrong. Oh well, I guess we'll see what MPM and Bunni do. StanTheMan 18:43, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I think it's odd and we really don't know if the poster is really Goncz. But I' sure we'll get it worked out. --Jcordell 18:47, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

RE: Actor Page

Well, I had to take off almost right after I set up the page. But, I probably would have forgotten to search so I appreciate the help, and I'll keep that in mind next time. Thanks, man. StanTheMan 02:46, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Lame page makers

How much you wanna bet that all these noob IMFDB members who make pages for kids movies, either Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network, are all around the age of a 7th grader? I recently deleted a project which wasn't even a movie, it was a video taken by a 7th grade class as part of a school project. I was stunned that the page maker took the project as being one of serious merit (and their spelling and grammar sucked) so I assumed the originator was a kid. MoviePropMaster2008 17:17, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Boxcar Bertha

I'm fairly certain it's a Remington Model 10. Look at the reciever and the end of the barrel. --Jcordell 12:22, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Okay it's done.Now I need to make a page for the Model 10. For some reason I thought there was already one.--Jcordell 16:27, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh and now there is a Remington Model 10 page. Great.--Jcordell 12:54, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

CC Revolvers

Snagging can be overcome with practice, but why when there are so many great hammerless and concealed hammer models now days. If you plan on shooting your concealment piece frequently I would suggest one of the S&W J frames. Personally I like the 649 or 49 and there are still many lightly used S&W J frames out there that will cost you a anywhere from a couple hundred to several hundred dollars less than a new one. The 38/638 is a good gun, but the alloy frame isn't as sturdy as the all steel if you're looking at a lot of shooting. Also if you can find one of the Ruger SP101 with the 2.25" barrel with the DA hammer you have a good little revolver there. However alot of folks prefer the trigger action on the S&W revolver. I prefer Smith & Wesson, but I appreciate Ruger and aknowledge that the company makes a very solid and strong revolver.Just remember that the Ruger is heavier, but will also withstand alot of heavy usage. Look at your requirements.

Now be careful with Colts. Like I said in that other posting the old Colt revolver action (Pre-Mk III/IV/V/King Cobra/Anaconda) is tricky and there aren't that many gunsmiths left anymore who know how to work on the action. I would recommend a Colt for collecting, but a Smith or Ruger for real world. Be careful of Taurus. The company has come a long way, but I still have doubts about the quality control. And that's not good for a revolver being used for the real world. Life or death in other words. --Jcordell 23:46, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about adding this to your main page. I was working on it and I was also talking to my kids and dealing with the family pets (no not the kids). Guess I got distracted. Anyway glad to help. Also in all fairness to Taurus I am thinking of buying a Judge just as a "neat" revolver. Oh and that reminds me of something else. Somebody asked me about Charter Arms a few days ago. I would put that company in the same category as Taurus. It's come a long ways, but I'm still not sure about the consistency of it's Quality Control.Anyway talk to you later.--Jcordell 12:53, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

I think the mid size snubbies are great revolvers.I own a Colt Mk III Lawman with a 2" barrel. It'a a real Bulldog. They also look cool as hell. But they aren't really designed to be concealed. I know there are people who make them work, but I think they're more belt or shoulder holster revolvers. I suppose if you wear a sports coat all the time it would work, but that's not me. My dad carried a Model 19 snubbie for a few years back in the 70's and he described it as heavy after a few hours and dense. He said that he was always worried about it printing. --Jcordell 17:52, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Glad to help. The 642 is a good revolver. You might want to get Snap Caps so you can practice your dry firing without worrying about breaking your firing pin.I like them even with frame mounted firing pin designs like Ruger. Also you can practice loading. I use tem in all my firearms. Handguns, rifles and shotguns. I tell all our new officers to do dry-firing at least a couple times a week. It's helped me over the years. --Jcordell 18:41, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Pred's revolvers

Congrats on your CCP, Pred, and sounds like a good choice going with the 442(?) Smith. Sounds good man, hope you enjoy it. StanTheMan 01:46, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

An added feature! Well, not really. But hey, if it works. Sounds like you didn't pay too many pretty pennies for it at least. Speaking of Smiths, tell me, what's your experience with that 'bling-bling' 586 you got? Have you fired it recently? StanTheMan 02:00, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

- Cool, glad to know a bit. It is a full-size revolver so I'd expect it to have some weight, especially since it's bigger than K-frame. Anyway, thanks for the bit of knowledge, man. StanTheMan 03:48, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

banning user 125.233.23.5

His nowiki command was not necessarily vandalism. I've seen that mistake with noobs who know nothing of Wiki command structures. I wouldn't do a permanent ban, unless he has done something else wrong. mpm

Temporarily ban him again

But clearly tell why you are banning again. If he does it a fourth time, then permanently ban him. We can't have guys doing obviously stupid things and ignoring the mods. It MAY make IMFDB more 'nazi like' like some disaffected ex-members have accused us of, but seriously, the mods (and quality good members) waste so much time correcting inane and just dumb changes made by noobs. MoviePropMaster2008 01:17, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Bah, why do people even do that? It should be obvious what the end result will be. Well I don't know. People who act like that have always just irked the living hell out of me. I mean.. that's just irritating. And I'm not one of the poor souls.. err wonderful guys who handle those things. StanTheMan 01:24, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

RE: uploading images

I only edit it again so it appears in the screenshot category. Does it still appear in the category if you put the category part in the summary section? - Kenny99 00:42, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

I think I will have to withdraw the Stevens 67

I just checked the fine print on the side of the gun. It's a Savage/Springfield Model 67, not a Savage/Stevens Model 67. I 'think' the Model 67 is virtually identical save for a few differences (the ribs in the forearm is a wee bit wider). What do you think? Keep it or trash it? The problem is that Stevens also has a Model 77 which looks the same. Arghhh. These gun manufacturers and their third party branding of the same damned gun just drives me nuts! :) MoviePropMaster2008 17:30, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Wacko watch part deux

1morey - I'm afraid the guy's uploaded a shitload of redundant and jacked images (one of them has the copyright posted on the image itself), and his Call of juarez page is.. well, look for yourself. I try to not be that judgmental but, sheesh.. :( I'd fix the page but I don't wanna encroach on admin-type stuff. Besides it's a clear showing of how NOT to do a page.. ahem sorry. I just can't stand pages done that horribly. Saddest thing is that it seems the game pages are the ones most like that.. bah. StanTheMan 23:13, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

- That's cool. I know he's a new guy so I tried to keep that in mind, still that wasn't too pleasant to see. The page looks much better now so thanks on that. I'm gonna add the proper gun images and links, and do a bit of formatting. I'd like to get your ok to move the non-firearm weapons (Bible, Tomahawk, etc) to the talk page. StanTheMan 02:05, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

95.116.165.233 All for you, unless someone else gets him, of course. And remember - PENIS! :P StanTheMan 16:25, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

School Rumble

has anyone added a page on school Rumble, i was adding a page about Sora no woto, i forgot that it's already on here. so just before i try. is there anything about that anime on this website

School Rumble

has anyone added a page on school Rumble, i was adding a page about Sora no woto, i forgot that it's already on here. so just before i try. is there anything about that anime on this website

school rumble

i have tried its japanese name Sukūru Ramburu still noting has come up, so im wandering if i could make a page

im new to editing these pages its just the pics i have trouble with

my page is still unfinished, when you look at it you can see what the problem is, sorry im still new to making pages like this. just need to know how to get those images right with the text

school rumble

its just the cover of the anime that im stuck with now, sorry i must be bothering you now

i guess its fine. Thanks for the help :) im still stumped on what gun Oji kurasuma has i dunno what it is. but i guess someone who does know will change it.

my dad took my laptop off me yesterday so, sorry if i was unresponsive. i was going to make the changes. but thanks anyway, you've been a real help :)

RE: gun discussions

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner...I have no problem with allowing some discussions of guns, as long as they don't deviate too much from the scope of the site. I mostly just hate people using the talk pages for the kind of discussions we saw on the Beretta 92 page, because I think that kind of stuff makes us look bad. Also, some of those topics on the 1911 page look to me like they were started by an anonymous user who seems to be a bit of a poser (I remember he started a topic on the M16 page where he said he liked M16A1s better than A2s because you can "spray" with an M16A1, LOL). -MT2008 12:48, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Photos

Thanks for watching my back. Actually it's pretty easy to revert those pics, but I'll start protecting them, but there are almost 700 custom pics I've uploaded ;) yeow. We can do them when we get to them. What is this guy thinking? A high resolution shot of a gun that's already IN motion picture armorer inventory? That makes it a little more site relevant than some snapshot of some dude's private property gun in his back yard. :) MoviePropMaster2008

Raw Deal

Well, I usually put 'screen used' on the caption if it is indeed a screen used gun. That's a build up. As you can see, the choke is slightly different. That was taken from a Browning Field shotgun and 'crammed' onto the Mossberg LOL! Also the original movie Mossberg was a different finish than mine. And also the original gun was lost or destroyed sometime in 1990 on another movie set so it is no longer (from what an armorer friend told me) but that was yet another off hand comment, second hand, so I can't verify it. Either way, that gun was just like the Hollowpoint Type 84S or the Dawn of the Dead Remington 870. Built up by MoviePropMaster2008 for imfdb using the parts (which I have) :) MoviePropMaster2008

Mac-uzi?

Are you kidding? For one, that gun is hella gay. Two, those parts were made back in the 1970s from scratch when armorers had trouble getting Uzis (the early 70s the Uzi was hot, Presidential security, the Raid on Entebbe, the gun was all in the news). Why would I have 35 year old fake gun parts that aren't even correct and were custom made in a metal fabrication shop to fit a MAC-10? :D So I guess the answer is HELL NO. No gay fake franken guns here! LOL!!!!!! MoviePropMaster2008

J.C. Higgins Model 20

I added alittle more about the history of the shotgun. Manufactured by High Standard under contract for Sears etc. Basically it's a no-frills version of the High Standard Flite King Shotgun Series. But it is a seperate model and should have it's own page. --Jcordell 17:31, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

This is a memory I've brought up before, but I remember going into a K-Mart probably thirty-five years ago with my dad and walking out (dad & I) with a Ruger New Model Blackhawk in .357 magnum. What's amazing is here in my town there is a drugstore (yes an old fashioned drugstore with an honest to go lunch counter) that sells both handguns and long-guns as well as ammo, fishing equipment and so on. A few years ago I purchased a Ruger Blackhawk from them just to help support a local business. Going into that store is like walking through a time-warp. There are still a few left I guess. --Jcordell 18:26, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Redirect

Okay. thanks. I'll do that. --Jcordell 03:22, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

RE:

Definitely a spammer. Nuked. -MT2008 14:25, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Armstrong images

Hello and sorry for the no neccessary images, you can delete them. I will respect next time. --comateman 22:34, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

RE: Auction

Yeah, I remember that auction. Obviously, the info in the PDF is not going to be 100% (as evidenced by the example you cited). Inaccuracies are likely to be a result of the fact that whoever wrote that document wasn't knowledgeable about firearms. But it could still help us. -MT2008 05:17, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

It's definitely possible the barrels were swapped out for a later movie, though I can't imagine which one. Also, as far as the Glock in Eraser being a G21, it's possible, but it's also a bit strange to me because the opening credits scene shows a Glock 17 being loaded (the mags aren't long enough to be G21 mags). Though of course, the opening credits gun wasn't necessarily the gun used by Arnie in the rest of the movie. -MT2008 16:11, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Zombie Killer 1995

Thanks for deleting the friends page but I have redone the page thanks any way

Zombie killer 1995

Ok thanks I'll remember that

zombie killer 1995

sorry sorry I'm new to this thing my bad if I reset the picture size to say 450px would that be ok?

RE: The Way of The Gun

Comin' right up! :) And thanks. I was a bit hesitant at first about uploading my screencaps... --Warejaws 21:00, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Ah ok, and once again: thanks! And yes, this is gonna look awesome as a Featured Article... ;) I'll just finish it up and maybe add a couple of them situational shots. --Warejaws 21:12, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

RE: M1911A1 disclaimer

Sure, I think that would a good disclaimer to add. I also wonder if we should add the info about how most firing 1911s in movies are 9mm derivatives (like the Mark IV Series 70 or Star Model B). But this has been a big problem. -MT2008 04:08, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

The Mark IV Series 70 in 9mm while it was available they aren't all that common, I very rarely see them come up for sale. (maybe the armories bought them all).

You'd have to ask one of our armorers about this, but I would guess that could very well be true! Also, because movie guns always get sent out on lots of shows, it's possible for them to be disproportionately represented in Hollywood compared to real life (I've seen too many movies and TV shows that have had bad guys using the SIG P220 and P226 Sport models, which are pretty rare and hard to find.)

And yes, it's possible to re-chamber a .45-caliber 1911 to fire 9mm blanks. It's also not uncommon for gunsmiths to re-chamber weapons to fire more commonly available cartridges (i.e. re-chambering Japanese Arisaka rifles to shoot .30-.06 blanks). I have no idea how common this is with 1911s, though. The impression I've usually been under is that .45 ACP 1911s were used mostly for non-firing, the 9mm Star Model B or Mark IV Series 70 were used in firing. I dunno when gunsmiths in the industry started figuring out how to make 1911s function more reliably with .45 ACP blanks, but I'm guessing it wasn't until some time in the 1980s or 1990s, which would explain why 9mm pistols were still more common than other calibers up until recently. -MT2008 05:01, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

In early gangster films you see Colt 1911's that were not converted to blanks but were still live fire weapons. The 1911's and 1911a1 are a delayed blow back weapon and were more difficult to convert than the straight blow back pistol like the Colt 1903 Pocket Hammerless. Also the .45 ACP blanks were made from a cut down .30-06 cartridge and were mainly used in the Colt Thompson Submachine Guns but the 1911 had some issues due to the hard rifle primers. So you will see most 1911 and 1911A1's used in film prior to 1950 firing one shot since they were not converted to blanks or a mock up 1911 that has a small revolver inside an aluminum shroud to stand in for a 1911 when firing multiple rounds. About 1950 the Star Model B was brought in to the US for sale and several studios and armories purchased these since 9mm blanks worked and a conversion on a delayed blow back weapon was developed. From 1950 through the mid 80's the Star Model B, Colt 9mm and Colt .38 Supers with a 9mm barrel were used. About 1985 a new .45 blank cartridge was developed that used a large pistol primer allowing the armories to activate there 1911's to fire reliably. The Stembridge had both Colt 1911 and GI 1911A1 in there inventory also had Colt 9mm Series 70. They did try to convert 45's to 9mm but had problems due to the larger breach face in the 45 slide compared to the 9mm slide. The rentals of 9mm 1911 pistol have slowed down when the .45 came on line but they still go out on shows when a Propmaster wants to limit the amount of different blanks on set. Hope this helps some it will be hard to decipher pistol types unless you study the photos closely. --phoenixent 23:36, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

The machine pistol used on Public Enemies was originally a 38 Super converted to 9mm. It's a funny thing with those machine pistols that the original ones built for Dillinger in the 30's were 38 super. I have seen Barstow barrels in 9mm plugged and modified for blanks in Stembridge parts bin so that gives some credence to converting 38 Supers to 9mm blank. Also Stembridge had great connections at Colt and they would build custom pistol in 9mm for Stembridge. The pistols used in Cobra were 38 Super National Match made in 9mm by Colt for Stembridge.--phoenixent 04:21, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

That photo from Cobra is nice as it shows the ejection port. Colt made that pistol in 45 ACP and 38 Super only but they did build it special order in 9mm for Stembridge according to Syd Stembridge. The firearms companies do a lot of special builds if the time allows for it. Ellis Mercantile had new S&W Highway Patrolman revolvers built by Smith & Wesson for A Perfect World. They sent S&W an original from inventory and then S&W built them almost exactly like the sample. --phoenixent 17:14, 6 December 2010 (UTC)