Talk:Westworld - Season 1

I've had a couple notes that the PX4 is the subcompact, not the compact, can anyone confirm? --bunni (talk) 13:23, 8 December 2016 (EST)

For your examination: --Ben41 (talk) 15:11, 8 December 2016 (EST)

Beretta Px4 Storm Compact - 9x19mm

Beretta Px4 Storm Sub-Compact - 9x19mm

The Beretta pistol] appears to be drawn by Ashley Stubbs (Luke Hemsworth) in "Trompe L'Oeil" (S1E07).

Stubbs draws his pistol in "The Well-Tempered Clavier" (S1E09).

I concur, looks more like a sub-compact than a standard compact variant. It's still really hard to tell - the two are extremely similar with few obvious differences, but the profile seems to match the subcompact more. --Sergeant Simpleton (talk) 19:51, 8 December 2016 (EST)

There is one very obvious difference between the Compact and Subcompact (I own a full size Px4, and studied them immensely prior to making that purchase); the Compact uses the same rotating cam barrel mechanism as its full size sibling. The Sub-compact does not, using a tilt-barrel system like many other semi-auto pistols. Compare slides on both in those pictures above, then look at the screen captures. To me its apparent that its a subcompact. --Peelman (talk) 13:54, 28 December 2016 (EST)

Red Barrels / Paint

The red barrels and paint schemes, based on context, seem to definitively identify a "real" firearm from an in-world one. As mentioned in the show, "You can't kill anyone you are not supposed to" with the in-world weapons, and we see in S01E01 that Teddy's gun can "kill" other Hosts, but not the Man in Black. As opposed to the weapons carried by the security/QA staff, which would be marked in a very obvious way to denote their "real" lethalness. See the end of Episode 10 where Hector and Armistice slaughter most of the security staff with their Red P90s.

The possible exception to this rule might be the revolver Delores uses at the end of S01E10 to kill Ford; but Ford also explicitly tells us that said gun existed at the very beginning of the park (being the one used to kill Arnold); so the "Red Gun" protocols might not have been in place at that point, or the weapon may have been specifically modified by Arnold himself. I emphasize might because there is a theory that the Ford that was shot was another Host.

--Peelman (talk) 13:46, 28 December 2016 (EST)

I agree with that theory. In his underground lab, Ford had another synth being fabricated, which could've been the one that got shot. I also find it strange that Ford with his god complex would graciously accept death and lose control of the park. --PyramidHead (talk) 00:56, 29 December 2016 (EST)