Talk:The X-Files - Season 4

Cigarette-Smoking Man's Rifles

His first rifle must be a Carcano M91/38 Short Rifle and the second one a Remington Model 760. But the screen guns doesn't match the real rifles used in these famous assassination. Does X-Files setting differs from the real world so much that even the murder weapons in JFK and MLK assassinations are different? Greg-Z (talk) 13:53, 16 August 2014 (EDT)

They make reference to planting a rifle (presumably the Carcano) in the book depository, but it's never seen outside of the wrapping in the actual show. As for the Remington, apparently they just didn't know/didn't bother, though admittedly you never really get a good look at the weapon in the episode. Nototter (talk) 16:48, 16 August 2014 (EDT)

Thanks for clarification. BTW, I think that Oswald's revolver is a Colt Detective Special. Greg-Z (talk) 16:55, 16 August 2014 (EDT)

Thanks, I've added it. Never was any good at IDing revolvers. Nototter (talk) 18:36, 16 August 2014 (EDT)

I do not thing the rifle is a 760, as due to the fact it has a bolt handle on the bolt this implies it is a semi-auot rather than a pump. Mu guess would be a Remington Model 742. While I am here, the assassins pistol is some sort of CZ75, and I think the last unidentified pistol is a P226. --commando552 (talk) 20:18, 19 August 2014 (EDT)

I think commando is spot-on with his guesses, I definitely agree with a CZ for the assassin's pistol. The other pistol I agree is a high-cap SIG (you can see the frame bulge, barely) - I would have said P228, but I can see what looks to be the angled re-curved/squared-off trigger guard, which would make it a 226. To add, I think 'Mulder's revolver' is most probably a S&W Model 10, and the 'MP5K' is probably another Kimel mockup as seen in the other seasons of the show. StanTheMan (talk) 20:51, 19 August 2014 (EDT)

I concur that the assassin's pistol in S4E18 is a CZ-75. Also, Krycek's (currently unidentified) pistol in S4E09 is a P228, not a P226. -MT2008 (talk) 22:17, 19 August 2014 (EDT)

Hard to tell for me.. It still kinda looks like it has the squared-off trigger guard. But I admit the slide doesn't look quite long enough for a 226. StanTheMan (talk) 14:01, 20 August 2014 (EDT)

It's a P228. The image that is posted is too low-res, but if you watch the show on Netflix, you'll see that it has the P228-style grips (granted, the P226 grips were later re-designed to look like the 228's, but not at the time that the episode aired), the slide is too short, and it has the number of serrations consistent with a P228 slide. I considered the possibility that this is the P225, but it has the wrong grip style, and it also clearly has a double-stack frame.

Also, the nickel-plated pistol used by the gray-haired assassin in "Memento Mori" (S4E14) is a nickel-plated Jericho 941, not a Taurus PT92. It's probably the same Jericho used previously in "Apocrypha" (S3E16) by the assassin Luis Cardinal. -MT2008 (talk) 14:27, 20 August 2014 (EDT)