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Discussion

MP5s

It would appear that this film is the first appearance of the MP5 in media, at least according to the MP5 page here. Do you think it's the first appearance of the MP5 in media, period? --Funkychinaman 23:12, 27 April 2012 (CDT)

Production Notes

Firstly, well done for adding this film. This film gets a lot of criticism from people who don't know how the SAS conducts CRW operations, little do they know the SAS had advised the makers of the film. Other than the 2 troopers hanging from the helicopter with grenade launchers, everything else was how the SAS did these operations in the early 1980's. The SAS even participated in the film, it was them that abseiled from the helicopters in the finale according to Ian Sharp and Euan Lloyd.--The Mercenary 14:11, 27 April 2012 (CDT)

I agree. I remember this move was very controversial when it came out.Especially because it showed the anti-nuke movement (i.e. anti - United States) that was popular in Western Europe in the early eighties as being a dupe of the Soviet Union. I recall theaters refusing to show it, protests outside of theaters that did and so on. Made me want to see it even more. LOL. --Jcordell 22:23, 27 April 2012 (CDT)

Thank you for all the help. After watching this film, I can't believe no one else had done it before me. I'm an American, and even I thought they were being a little too hard on Labour, especially in the end. I was very confused by why they were playing "O Christmas Tree" in the end, it wasn't until later that I found it it was also the Labour party anthem. The film plods along for much of the running time, but the raid itself it spectacular. The only thing that bothered me was how much these SAS guys were firing from the hip. Do they actually do that? --Funkychinaman 23:01, 27 April 2012 (CDT)

No. I have photos showing GSG 9, GIGN, SAS and Gruppo di Intervento Speciale doing firearms/hard entry training from the late seventies. All the different members were using two hands for their pistols/revolvers and putting their SMG's/rifles/shotguns up to their shoulders. Just call it poetic license. And that type of "shooting" was portrayed more often in the seventies than it is now. You're right the movie does plod until the end. Not a great movie, but it sure did scare some people when it came out. All the attention backfired though. The movie did better at the boxoffice than many folks probably counted on. Nothing like forbidden fruit.--Jcordell 23:17, 27 April 2012 (CDT)

Unknowns

Unknown Grenade Launcher

Two SAS troopers suspected from a helicopter fire grenades from an unknown grenade launcher.

It may look a little silly, but they swing straight into the building right after blowing out the windows with the grenade launcher.

Federal Gas Riot Gun?

Federal M201-Z - 37mm. Upgrade from the L-5, the M201Z has a secondary ladder sight behind the latch and the barrel is ringed for a sling swivel. The L-5 has a plain smooth barrel.

I guess. You don't really get any better shots of it in the film. (Believe me, I know, I've watched the raid like five times already. It's amazing.) --Funkychinaman 10:04, 27 April 2012 (CDT)

Unknown grenade

The SAS troopers have an unknown grenade on their webbing.

Unknown smoke grenade

The SAS troopers have an unknown smoke grenade on their webbin.

Unknown crossbow

I don't even know if it's really a crossbow. The cops refer to it as a crossbow. It's used by the terrorists to kill a police informant.

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 ::I agree. I remember this move was ''very'' controversial when it came out.Especially because it showed the anti-nuke movement (i.e. anti - United States) that was popular in Western Europe in the early eighties as being a dupe of the Soviet Union. I recall theaters refusing to show it, protests outside of theaters that did and so on. Made me want to see it even more. LOL. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 22:23, 27 April 2012 (CDT)
 :::Thank you for all the help. After watching this film, I can't believe no one else had done it before me. I'm an American, and even I thought they were being a little too hard on Labour, especially in the end. I was very confused by why they were playing "O Christmas Tree" in the end, it wasn't until later that I found it it was also the Labour party anthem. The film plods along for much of the running time, but the raid itself it spectacular. The only thing that bothered me was how much these SAS guys were firing from the hip. Do they actually do that? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 23:01, 27 April 2012 (CDT)
+:No. I have photos showing GSG 9, GIGN, SAS and Gruppo di Intervento Speciale doing firearms/hard entry training from the late seventies. All the different members were using two hands for their pistols/revolvers and putting their SMG's/rifles/shotguns up to their shoulders. Just call it poetic license. And that type of "shooting" was portrayed more often in the seventies than it is now. You're right the movie does plod until the end. Not a great movie, but it sure did scare some people when it came out. All the attention backfired though. The movie did better at the boxoffice than many folks probably counted on. Nothing like forbidden fruit.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 23:17, 27 April 2012 (CDT)
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