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Please help ID these -- [[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 17:51, 17 May 2016 (EDT)
 
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I made remarks on all these in the [[Talk:Gotham_-_Season_2#Unknowns/Other IDs|'Unknowns/Other IDs' section below]]. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 02:06, 18 May 2016 (EDT)
  
 
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::As far the MP5s first, if you look at the shot of them all on the table at least the 3 on the left have the lugged PDW barrel, there is only one visible with a standard MP5K one. On to the pistol, my gut feeling is that it might be an early 3rd gen S&W auto, but i don't think a .45 necessarily as it doesn't have the longer barrel and I thing that if it was a 4506 it would have the adjustable sights. The slide shape looks slightly off at the back and it appears to be missing a slide safety so my guess would be a 5946, but without a clearer image it is really hard to tell. Also, there appears to b a colour difference between the frame and slide, so it could be that if it is a Smith it is an alloy framed variant like the 5943, but it could just be the lighting in this scene.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 16:17, 9 November 2015 (EST)
 
::As far the MP5s first, if you look at the shot of them all on the table at least the 3 on the left have the lugged PDW barrel, there is only one visible with a standard MP5K one. On to the pistol, my gut feeling is that it might be an early 3rd gen S&W auto, but i don't think a .45 necessarily as it doesn't have the longer barrel and I thing that if it was a 4506 it would have the adjustable sights. The slide shape looks slightly off at the back and it appears to be missing a slide safety so my guess would be a 5946, but without a clearer image it is really hard to tell. Also, there appears to b a colour difference between the frame and slide, so it could be that if it is a Smith it is an alloy framed variant like the 5943, but it could just be the lighting in this scene.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 16:17, 9 November 2015 (EST)
 
::: I think the color mismatch on the gun is due to lighting (combo stainless/alloy S&W autos tend to look the opposite - the slide usually appears darker than the frame), and I think the angle and poor focus on the gun explains why it doesn't look like it has the slide decocker/safety on the right (could still be there, just not really visible). That said, the bore looks a bit large for a 9mm (though again, the poor focus makes it a bit tough to tell) and 4506s were also available with Novak sights. I agree the barrel seems a bit short however - Could be a [[Smith & Wesson 4566]] in that regard. Your guesses are just as good at this point, though. Ultimately we're pretty much stuck here without a better or second shot. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 22:45, 9 November 2015 (EST)
 
::: I think the color mismatch on the gun is due to lighting (combo stainless/alloy S&W autos tend to look the opposite - the slide usually appears darker than the frame), and I think the angle and poor focus on the gun explains why it doesn't look like it has the slide decocker/safety on the right (could still be there, just not really visible). That said, the bore looks a bit large for a 9mm (though again, the poor focus makes it a bit tough to tell) and 4506s were also available with Novak sights. I agree the barrel seems a bit short however - Could be a [[Smith & Wesson 4566]] in that regard. Your guesses are just as good at this point, though. Ultimately we're pretty much stuck here without a better or second shot. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 22:45, 9 November 2015 (EST)
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2nd through 4th pics in the unknown listing under "Pistols" all look to be 1911s (I'd say more GCNMs given the sights, hammers, and slanted serrations). 5th/last cap I've seen (and probably know) but can't place right now. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 16:31, 17 May 2016 (EDT)
 
2nd through 4th pics in the unknown listing under "Pistols" all look to be 1911s (I'd say more GCNMs given the sights, hammers, and slanted serrations). 5th/last cap I've seen (and probably know) but can't place right now. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 16:31, 17 May 2016 (EDT)

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Please help ID these -- Ben41 (talk) 17:51, 17 May 2016 (EDT)

Tabitha Galavan (Jessica Lucas) guns down Arkham Asylum guards near the end of "Rise of the Villains. Damned if You Do...".
GothamS02E18 05.jpg
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GothamS02E19 00.jpg
GothamS02E19 01.jpg

I made remarks on all these in the 'Unknowns/Other IDs' section below. StanTheMan (talk) 02:06, 18 May 2016 (EDT)

Pistol

Might the first unknown pistol be a Strayer Voigt Infinity? --Funkychinaman (talk) 09:06, 30 September 2015 (EDT)

Maybe. I'm not sure on the model. Ominae (talk) 09:08, 30 September 2015 (EDT)
Those pistols in the first two unknowns look like the Springfield Armory TRP Operator. --Ben41 (talk) 16:49, 30 September 2015 (EDT)
Springfield Armory TRP Operator - .45 ACP
Pretty sure the first unknown is an airsoft gun, the WE Hi-Capa 5.1 Dragon. If you brighten it up you can see the distinctive slide/compensator design. It could also be that this is real pistol that the Dragon is based on, but if so I don;t know what it is (also, I'm not sure this construction would actually work in a real 1911). --commando552 (talk) 13:54, 1 October 2015 (EDT)

Alfred's revolver

Alfred's revolver is some sort of Colt, not an S&W. As you pointed out, the ejector rod is not shrouded. --Funkychinaman (talk) 09:06, 20 October 2015 (EDT)

A DS maybe? Ominae (talk) 09:29, 20 October 2015 (EDT)
I'm not sure. Something about the front sight looks a bit off. --Funkychinaman (talk) 10:02, 20 October 2015 (EDT)
Colt Lawman 1st Gen.? It has exposed ejector rod and ramp front sight. Greg-Z (talk) 10:20, 20 October 2015 (EDT)
Looks like it. Although I'm heading off to bed. So if it's a go, then someone can edit the article. Ominae (talk) 10:32, 20 October 2015 (EDT)
I concur with the Lawman Snubbie ID. StanTheMan (talk) 13:13, 20 October 2015 (EDT)

Episode 9 Hitman Eduardo Flamingo's Pistol

I don't have a screen shot but the hitman's Colt Pistol doesn't look quite right for a 1911. I think that it might be a Colt 1903 Pocket Hammer --Insertjjs (talk) 13:06, 20 November 2015 (EST)

It's an engraved Colt Model 1902 Military Model with pearl grips. - Firepower194

Unknowns/Other IDs

The unknown pistol looks to be some kind of 1911 variant with a squared trigger guard. This might actually be a Strayer Voight Infinity, but I'm not certain. Harvey Bullock's revolver looks to be a Smith & Wesson Model 19, given the shrouded rod, bull barrel, and the large ramp front sight. The S&W Model 60 I think is actually a 3" Model 64/65. Also, more a minor note, the Ruger M77's 'hollow' stock is simply the older (discontinued) 'boat-paddle' stock. StanTheMan (talk) 13:27, 20 October 2015 (EDT)

Though we can't be positive without a clearer shot of the receiver, the MP5K in that last cap might be an actual MP5K-PDW, given the PDW stock and protruding lugged barrel. Also, on a second look, that 'unknown pistol' might actually be a S&W .45 auto - Either a 645 or early 4506 (more likely the latter). StanTheMan (talk) 14:48, 9 November 2015 (EST)
As far the MP5s first, if you look at the shot of them all on the table at least the 3 on the left have the lugged PDW barrel, there is only one visible with a standard MP5K one. On to the pistol, my gut feeling is that it might be an early 3rd gen S&W auto, but i don't think a .45 necessarily as it doesn't have the longer barrel and I thing that if it was a 4506 it would have the adjustable sights. The slide shape looks slightly off at the back and it appears to be missing a slide safety so my guess would be a 5946, but without a clearer image it is really hard to tell. Also, there appears to b a colour difference between the frame and slide, so it could be that if it is a Smith it is an alloy framed variant like the 5943, but it could just be the lighting in this scene. --commando552 (talk) 16:17, 9 November 2015 (EST)
I think the color mismatch on the gun is due to lighting (combo stainless/alloy S&W autos tend to look the opposite - the slide usually appears darker than the frame), and I think the angle and poor focus on the gun explains why it doesn't look like it has the slide decocker/safety on the right (could still be there, just not really visible). That said, the bore looks a bit large for a 9mm (though again, the poor focus makes it a bit tough to tell) and 4506s were also available with Novak sights. I agree the barrel seems a bit short however - Could be a Smith & Wesson 4566 in that regard. Your guesses are just as good at this point, though. Ultimately we're pretty much stuck here without a better or second shot. StanTheMan (talk) 22:45, 9 November 2015 (EST)


2nd through 4th pics in the unknown listing under "Pistols" all look to be 1911s (I'd say more GCNMs given the sights, hammers, and slanted serrations). 5th/last cap I've seen (and probably know) but can't place right now. StanTheMan (talk) 16:31, 17 May 2016 (EDT)

Penguin's shotgun

I can't really tell about the rest as they are not shown that clearly, but this shotgun is definitely not an Ithaca:

GothamS02E11 03.jpg

I think it is actually a Winchester 1897 with a solid frame or a Norinco copy. --commando552 (talk) 19:28, 3 December 2015 (EST)

I concur. StanTheMan (talk) 00:48, 4 December 2015 (EST)

Charter Arms Revolver

Given the size, large muzzle and five-round cylinder, I'd say it's a .44 Bulldog. StanTheMan (talk) 17:43, 19 April 2016 (EDT)

More specifically it is an older model (newer versions have a shorter front sight blade) Bulldog Pug with a bobbed hammer. Even more specifically, I would guess that it is probably this gun from The Specialist's Ltd. --commando552 (talk) 06:46, 20 April 2016 (EDT)

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