Talk:AS Val

Redirects needed

Given how many firearms this single page encompasses, redirects are needed for each of them. Something like VSS needs to redirect to this page, while entering "AS Val" or just "Val" needs to go to the correct section, and so on for Vikhr/SR-3(M) or Veresk/SR-2(M).

Needless to say, the redirects need to be case-insensitve, so any combination of capital letter and lower-case letters should direct one to the appropriate section of this page so as long as the spelling is right. Additionally, the SR-3 Vikhr and SR-2 Veresk sections need to be reformatted so that the pictures are level with the text and the former's pictures don't spill into the latter's section text.--Mazryonh 01:49, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

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Why is VSS used to encompass these firearms? What is known is that they are all Special and were developed by Russian design bureau TSNIITOCHMASH. So I propose that the main page is called 'Russian Special Firearms/Weapons/X family/series <-choose one or two last words ' for proper categorisation.

Also, need an entry for SR-1 "Vektor" --Masterius 03:31, 15 October 2011 (CDT)

Naw, really the page should be AS Val (the VSS is a derivative model) and the Veresk shouldn't be here. Evil Tim 04:15, 15 October 2011 (CDT)

AS "Val" and VSS "Vintorez" were developed at the same time, so giving preference to one weapon would be unjust.

As for SR-2: "Unlike most submachine guns, SR-2 is gas operated, and its action is based on a scaled-down version of the SR-3 "Vikhr" compact assault rifle" - from Modern Firearms. --Masterius 05:01, 15 October 2011 (CDT)

Yeah, and the UMP is a scaled-down G36 action, and the MP5 is a scaled-down G3. There's good precident for weapons just loosely based on other weapons' actions to not go on the same page, much as it would be amusing to put the XM8 on the AR-18 page.

I think the Val would be the parent arm since it's the main issue weapon of the line, while the VSS is a specialised variant. Evil Tim 05:12, 15 October 2011 (CDT)