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==wz. or Wz.==
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I found [[User_talk:Dannyguns#Beryl|this discussion (which is unhelpfully split over separate pages)]], but I'm not sure I see the argument here. I've tried looking into this myself (well before this discussion too) and even most Polish-language sources I come across the all-lowercase style (both "kbs wz." and "wz."). I have ''never'' seen a situation in any language where that language's grammar rules apply to proper nouns / names / designations, and this seems very out of place to me, especially when, again, Polish language stuff seems to use fully lowercase too. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 00:19, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
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Grammar-wise, it should be the first letter capitalized as English like "Kbk. wz. 96 Beryl" or "Wz. 96 Beryl". I guess it would be better this way, just like M in Model is capitalized.--[[User:Dannyguns|Dannyguns]] ([[User talk:Dannyguns|talk]]) 07:42, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
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::What I mean is it ''changing by context'', that's what I find off here. There are very much designations which are simply lowercase no matter what is or isn't attached to them, because applying grammar rules to proper nouns is something I've never heard of actually being done, unless Polish is different in this way (but again, loads of Polish-language site/etc I've seen don't do this). Like, if you formed a band and named it "rock band" (because I'm super creative) in lowercase, it doesn't become "Rock band", because one doesn't apply grammar rules to proper nouns. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 18:31, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 18:31, 9 May 2024

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wz. 96A Beryl with bipod, POPC I rail, and PCS-6 night vision sight - 5.56x45mm

Discussion

wz. or Wz.

I found this discussion (which is unhelpfully split over separate pages), but I'm not sure I see the argument here. I've tried looking into this myself (well before this discussion too) and even most Polish-language sources I come across the all-lowercase style (both "kbs wz." and "wz."). I have never seen a situation in any language where that language's grammar rules apply to proper nouns / names / designations, and this seems very out of place to me, especially when, again, Polish language stuff seems to use fully lowercase too. Alex T Snow (talk) 00:19, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Grammar-wise, it should be the first letter capitalized as English like "Kbk. wz. 96 Beryl" or "Wz. 96 Beryl". I guess it would be better this way, just like M in Model is capitalized.--Dannyguns (talk) 07:42, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

What I mean is it changing by context, that's what I find off here. There are very much designations which are simply lowercase no matter what is or isn't attached to them, because applying grammar rules to proper nouns is something I've never heard of actually being done, unless Polish is different in this way (but again, loads of Polish-language site/etc I've seen don't do this). Like, if you formed a band and named it "rock band" (because I'm super creative) in lowercase, it doesn't become "Rock band", because one doesn't apply grammar rules to proper nouns. Alex T Snow (talk) 18:31, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

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