Talk:Heckler & Koch MP5

Other Variants or incarnations of the MP5

Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with mounted M203 Grenade Launcher - 9x19mm as used by Arnold Schwarzenegger's character Jericho Cane in the film End of Days.

Heckler & Koch 94 carbine with front pistol grip & barrel jacket

Heckler & Koch MP5KA4 - 9mm

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Heckler & Koch MP5A2 with a tactical flashlight mounted in a foregrip - 9mm

Heckler & Koch MP54 earliest prototype of the H&K MP5 - 9x19mm

Screen used prop Heckler & Koch MP5A3 - 9x19mm. This non-firing weapon is verified as screen used from the film Salt. The gun is constructed of rubber and was used during parts of the barge sequence where the live firing gun was unecessary. This item is currently being sold by The Golden Closet; see this link.

Early MP5 gone

As you can tell, I deleted the section on early MP5s, for two reasons:

(1.) It's unlikely early MP5s appear in movies or TV, simply because those models are quite rare and basically not available outside of Germany. If you go to HKPRO's MP5 page, you can see what the earliest MP5s looked like. (2.) The pictures were not early MP5s (one was an MP5A2 taken by MPM, which has since been moved to the MP5A2 section, the other was an A3 with a straight mag and older convex-style buttplate).

If anyone wants to restore it, please just copy and paste the code from an earlier revision; I made some other revisions that are important to keep. Don't undo all of my recent edits. Thanks. -MT2008 03:10, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

I've never seen a movie with the original HK54s, so I agree. If someone did want to put it on though, they have it on World Guns. -GM

I restored it, for three reasons: 1. I strongly disagree with the conclusion that a weapon has to be common to deserve inclusion. If that was a valid criterion a considerable number of the gun articles/sections on this site never would've been created. 2. The MP-54 is in S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl, so what if it's a video game, this site covers those too. 3. People editing that article take one look at "MP-54" and assume it's a typo, because even if they do their research by looking at this article, they find no such weapon and so conclude that it doesn't exist. --MattyDienhoff 13:36, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I checked your page for S.T.A.L.K.E.R. That doesn't look to me like an MP-54; it looks more like a regular MP5A3 with an open front sight. Such sights do exist as after-market accessories for the MP5. However, seeing as it's a game, it could also just be an artistic decision made by the gun modeler. But it's definitely not supposed to be an MP-54; notice it has the wrong rear sight and hand guards for the -54. -MT2008

The page for Biggles: Adventures in Time (1986) mentions "old spec MP5's with staight magazines"; whether they're actual vintage early MP5s, I know not. British television and film productions might well use these guns. I worry about the deletion of the early section; it's going to clumsy to put it back when someone spots an early MP5, and someone will spot an early MP5 at some point. One will appear in the background of The Professionals or Who Dares Wins; and although it may be true that they are "quite rare and basically not available outside of Germany", this database doesn't exclude German television programmes. I understand that German television has historically not been too keen on guns, but there must have been German cop dramas and television films and indeed theatrical films in the 1970s. -Ashley Pomeroy 18:26, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Why not put the 'fake' MP5s on the HK94 section?

It technically runs counter to common practice on IMFDB by putting the gun in the section of the weapon it's 'impersonating' rather than the real section. Case in point. We put fake M16A2s (that are A1s with A2 handguards) in the M16A1 section ... NOT the M16A2 section, even though that is the gun it is impersonating. Why don't we put the appearances of the C&C HK94s in the HK94 section? MoviePropMaster2008 22:27, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm, I didn't notice that this wasn't being done. But yes, I agree, all C&C HK94s impersonating MP5s should go in the HK94 section. -MT2008

Pay no attention to what I just edited out, I was being stupid.-protoAuthor

Heckler & Koch MP5K's with the foregrips removed

that is the point of MP5K's with the fore grips removed appearing in movies. you don't have a grip, and could burn you hand if you have been shooting

What? Speak english for me please.-Oliveira 20:23, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Better?

Yes. On topic, they are used as if they are machine pistols. Look at the Third Matrix movie page on this site. They are used in that movie. Also, sign your posts by putting four ~ on the end of every message.-Oliveira 16:11, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

SP-10 / MP-10 is also the PXP-10

Coharie Arms is the current producer of the SP-10 / MP-10 and its model is now designated as the PXP-10 (although the MP-10 designation is still in effect for fully automatic builds). Their are some slight changes since the SP-10 production. Specifically, the texturing was altered and mounting screws were added on the lower foregrip. Additionally, the tint of the plastic may have changed as well. Coharie has recently announced that the tooling is up for sale.

U.S. Police MP5 stocks

What is the most common stock type used by U.S. Police departments; the A2 type or the A3 type?

That is almost impossible to tell. I've seen both in my local, county and State police SWAT teams so both are used in all police department. The better question would be are there any US police department that uses the MP5K? Excalibur01 02:29, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

According to the picture about half way down the page, the Northeast Metro Law Enforcement Council Special Operations Unit in Massachusetts does. [1] --funkychinaman 03:39, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

MP5F Redundancy?

Do we really need a section for the MP5F? It seems highly unlikely that this model would be used in films or television, and visually distinguishing it from an MP5A3 or MP5A5 would be practically impossible. The only external indicator would be the stock, and that can be interchanged with other MP5 variants. The section claims that this model is internally modified to handle high-pressure ammo, which would be irrelevant for a blank-adapted weapon seen on-screen. If you ask me, having a section for the MP5F would be like having a section for the US military's M9 Beretta on the Beretta 92 page. Orca1 9904 19:33, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

No contest, nuke it. From what I understand unless the gun image came directly from a movie armorer, if the weapon has not appeared in anything than it has no right to be on IMFDB. --AdAstra2009 19:50, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

MP5/10

Could the MP5/10 be fitted with an MP5A3-style telescoping stock? MrOshimida27 00:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

I believe so, I remember seeing MP5/10s with collapsible stocks. StanTheMan 01:11, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Only the really cool ones :) plus if you google it, the very first picture of one has a telescoping stock. God bless Jeff Cooper and his 10mm. --Spades of Columbia 17:14, 28 October 2010 (UTC)