Talk:Rainbow Six: Vegas 2

Cut Weapons

I've been using UModel (Unreal model viewer, look it up, it's awesome) to check out the files for Vegas 2, and I found some cut weapon models that might interest you guys. From what I have seen, it appears that Vegas 2 would have contained the following additional weapons.

P226
H&K UCP
SG550 Sniper
AS50
SR-2M
Saiga 12K
USAS-12
Stockless Mossberg 500

Just thought you might have been interested.

Damn man, the USAS would have been some fun times! M14fanboy

They should have kept all of these and added some sort of M4. I love this game but it was so annoying not to have an M4!

M1911

Whoever decided to not include an good ole 1911 in the game should be smacked with a 2x4. Also, why do so many of the guns perform exactly the same? Having a huge list of guns to choose from is useless if they have the same stats-S&Wshooter 03:47, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

-Yeah, the selection of handguns in the Rainbow Six games were pretty weaksauce. No, you can't have combat pistols like the M1911A1 or SIG P226, but you can have a Desert Eagle and Mk. 23! Sheesh. And I really missed the M4/M16 in R6V1. That was one of my favorite weapons in the older games; the Barrett M468/REC-7 was nice to have in R6V2.

Yeah, doom on them for putting in Desert Eagles, Mark 23s, and XM8s in place of 1911s, P226s, and M4s. As far as the REC7 (which they could have at least made the carbine version instead of the full-length rifle version...) goes, I wanted the M4A1 specifically, not a REC7 or HK416. No matter how many fancy-smancy gas piston AR carbines or "SCARs" the firearms manufacturer community makes, there will always be M4s on the nearest rack in every SOF armory. Spartan198 09:57, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

-Apparently there was going to be a P226 and a FN 5.7 handgun in R6 Vegas (according to pre-release renders) but they were cut from the final product.

-whats wrong with the MK.23? their a special operations unit. The Mark 23 was designed as a special operation sidearms. i agree the desert eagle shouldn't have gone in. i would have much preferred the P226 or the 5.7. The M4 would have been much better then the M468. I also would have liked the G36K with a rail system as opposed to the G36C, but i guess in compact quarters, it makes more sense.

The Special Operations community despises the Mark 23 because it's so huge. No one outside of TV and video games uses it. Spartan198 15:18, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Hehehe. An anon user deleted their own comment. Thought that no one using the Mk23 was your opinion. Like the abysmal sales and general sorry reception don't mean anything. Hey, VG spec-ops always use Desert Eagles, too.--PistolJunkie 05:22, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Not to mention the repeated purchase and use (and often standardization, in the case of the MEU(SOC) pistol) of 1911-type pistols in spite of the readily-available status of hi-cap .45s like the USP, HK45, and aforementioned Mark 23. Spartan198 16:26, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Why not have the Beretta Cougar .45 like Rainbow used in TOM CLANCY'S ORIGINAL NOVEL? M14fanboy

Because that would make sense. But the M8000 isn't tactacool, apparently.--PistolJunkie 01:44, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

I guess not, but having a P99 and USP that have IDENTICAL STATS IS?!? I dunno what happened, but Rainbow Six has been torn so far away from the Original Novel, which is still better then all the games. M14fanboy

The bastards could have at least given us a Sig P228 or a Browning High Power-S&Wshooter 21:52, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Worse still, [I]Splinter Cell: Conviction[/I] is going to turn out exactly like [I]Rainbow Six: Vegas 2[/I] because it's got the same creative director and development team. 203.206.5.121 13:25, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

AK-47?

Has anyone noticed that the in-game model of the AK-47 is not using a 7.62x39mm magazine? My first thought was that it was an AK-74 (which would explain the similar stopping power to the AKS-74U) but it lacks the 74's flash hider. My next theory was a Norinco Type 84S, but the mag doesn't look curved enough to be the one used in the 84S. Also it lacks the circular front sights that are on the Chinese AK derivatives. It's not an AKM judging from the lack of ribs on the top of the receiver. What is this gun?

A video game frankengun. Spartan198 09:41, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Keep in mind that this is the same game where every single 92FS is equipped with a skeleton hammer and has the safety perpetually on. (Just noticed that, adding a note in the article). Is it just me, or is this franchise getting more lax with the details as time goes on?--PistolJunkie 23:22, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

I have updated the page. The AK-47 is now down as an 'Unknown AK Variant' By the way, I just noticed that the alleged AK-47 in-game uses the same magazines as the AKS-74U in-game. It may be one of the early prototypes of the AK-74 without the flash hider. File:Http://world.guns.ru/assault/ak74proto.jpg

Could be, as I believe the AKS-74 in game isn't meant to be an AKMSU. M14fanboy

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it could be the WASR-3 with a single stack magazine, explaining the oddly-shaped mag.

It has an odd mix of magazines. It has the shape of a bakelite AK-74 mag, and yet the steel construction of a WASR-3 mag, and yet it's supposed to hold 30 rounds of 7.62x39? Honestly, I'm just going to call this gun an AK-74 and be done with it! M14fanboy

Maybe it is a 5.56 AK variant, and can anyone get a clear picture of the mag? I had this game and remember hazily what the mag looked like, but i've since lost or lended out and forgot R6V2. BeardedHoplite 22:33, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

AI L96A1

Correction: It *is* in the PC version. It kicks ass. Why it was listed as not being in the PC version is beyond me.

Pistols

Since Desert Eagle and Raging Bull are the strongest handguns in this game, which one do you prefer? And what gun did that backstabbing asshole Gabriel used at the end of the game?

If I recall, and mind you, it's been awhile since I've played, Gabriel had a DE at the end of the game. --Funkychinaman 04:55, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh come on, why isn't anyone answering my questions? and aren't there any Counter Strike Source fans who play this game?

I think he used a g18

I Deagle the shit out of people playing Team Leader all the time. Kids come around the corner with their shotguns n shit expecting easy kills, and they get a face full of .50 Action Express! M14fanboy

Counter Strike Source

Anyone noticed that you can use nearly every gun from Counter Strike Source in this game?

Because they're what most people think of when they hear the term counter terrorist. Not to mention, they aren't exactly poor weapon choices. Game wise anyways, I can't comment on actual performance. Also, nobody in the world is obligated to answer a question, so calm down a bit. --Crazycrankle 06:52, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Is the answer really a yes or a no???

rifle scope

what the hell you can have a rifle scope on a shot gun in this that would be so useless --Armyguy277 14:00, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Because contrary to your seemingly COD-based mentality, shot can easily go 50+ meters, albeit with a lot of spread, and a scope would help you see, identify, and aim at potential threats which could be potentially killed by a load of shot. --Chris 23:52, 13 March 2010 (UCT)

Which leads me on to one of my favorite things about this game, shotguns with RANGE. Thank god someone got it right. 142.167.207.28

would've been better to have slugs aswell in this game. --FIVETWOSEVEN 22:13, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that would have been nice. Sometimes when I am messing around I will take the 870 and put an ACOG on it, making it a strangely accurate "sniper rifle". It's like by adding the scope the range increases or the spread decreases. Also, has anyone noticed how scrawny the M3 looks? --FirearmFanatic 13:15, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

would a scope on a shot gun help with non lethal round?  Rex095

Bean bag ammo haves really CRAPPY aerodinamics, so no --Yocapo32 18:32, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

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My bet's that they put it in there to give some variety to the shotgun attachments, though I'd have preferred solid slugs... M14fanboy

No fire rate selection for HK21E/MG36 and no proper one for the vz83. What gives?

The first thing I noticed when I tried the MG36 back in Vegas 1 was that it was stuck on full-auto only. Very disconcerting seeing as I've used the MG36 in Ghost Recon 2 and GRAW2 quite a few times and noted that it had fire-selection. Likewise with the 21E, where you can clearly see the selector and the markings. Also, what's with the Skorpion vz83 being select-fire only on the PC version, and a half-assed semi-auto at best? --HashiriyaR32 05:15, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

My only guess is that they wanted to give something "special" for PC due to the delayed release, but they hurried up, and fucked it sideways Yocapo32 23:11, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

On the subject of fire selects from the sig 552 texture it looks like it has a fire select block to keep it in semi only like certain European nations issue them.

Well, video games will be video games, and so you can expect them to model a gun's safety or fire selector one way without realizing where it's positioned, and then just not bother to fix it. M14fanboy