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==M16A1== | ==M16A1== | ||
[[Image:HH-M16A1 03a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Franz ([[Dylan McDermott]]) oversees an evac of his platoon onto UH-1D Helicopters. He carries an '''XM16-E1 Rifle''' - 5.56mm]] | [[Image:HH-M16A1 03a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Franz ([[Dylan McDermott]]) oversees an evac of his platoon onto UH-1D Helicopters. He carries an '''XM16-E1 Rifle''' - 5.56mm]] | ||
| + | [[Image:HH-M16A1 02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the first battle for the 101st Airborne, all combatants are carrying XM16-E1 rifles - 5.56mm]] | ||
| + | [[Image:HH-M16A1 05a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Left to right: Washburn ([[Don Cheadle]]), Bienstock ([[Tommy Swerdlow]]), and Galvan ([[Michael A. Nickles]]) have a laugh at Languilli's ([[Anthony Barrile]]) expense. The three pronged flash hider on their XM16-E1 rifles are clearly shown here. ]] | ||
| + | [[Image:HH-M16A1 06a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Franz ([[Dylan McDermott]]) sits atop his 'hooch' with his XM16-E1, enjoying the sunshine - 5.56mm]] | ||
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[[Image:m16.jpeg|thumb|none|600px||A U.S. GI firing his M16A1.]] | [[Image:m16.jpeg|thumb|none|600px||A U.S. GI firing his M16A1.]] | ||
[[Image:m16battle.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M16A1 in action.]] | [[Image:m16battle.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M16A1 in action.]] | ||
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| + | ==MGC Replica M16== | ||
| + | * Soldiers in the beginning of the film have ModelGun Corp replica MGC M16s slung to their backs as they load wounded onto helicopters. One of the giveaways is the 'blued' 20 round magazine (the real 20 round magazine is anodyzed aluminum), the shape of the pistol grip and the rear sling swivel. The most obvious detail is not seen here, the fake forward assist of the replica rifle. | ||
| + | [[Image:HH-MGCM16 01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Soldiers of the 101st carry wounded with MGC M16 Replica rifles slung to their backs.]] | ||
==AK-47== | ==AK-47== | ||
[[Image:HH-Type56GroupTunnela.jpg|thumb|none|600px|NVA hold Chinese Type 56 style AKs, some plain and some with pig-sticker bayonets - 7.62x39mm]] | [[Image:HH-Type56GroupTunnela.jpg|thumb|none|600px|NVA hold Chinese Type 56 style AKs, some plain and some with pig-sticker bayonets - 7.62x39mm]] | ||
| − | [[Image: | + | [[Image:HH-Type56NVARunsA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|NVA run back to their bunkers, all carrying standard AK-47 style rifles - 7.62x39mm. These are probably Poly-Technology Legend series AK-47s.]] |
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| + | ==Chinese Type 56 Assault Rifle== | ||
| + | * Other than the milled receiver AK-47s (which are probably Poly-Technology Legend series rifles), there are obvious stamped receiver Type 56 style AK rifles with underfolder spike bayonets (aka "PigSticker") | ||
| + | [[Image:HH-Pigsticker01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pvt. Joe Beletsky ([[Tim Quill]]) takes a Type 56 Assault rifle from a dead NVA - 7.62x39mm. Note the extended 'israeli style' screw on blank adapter.]] | ||
| + | [[Image:HH-Pigsticker-7Montagea.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A montage of Pvt. Joe Beletsky ([[Tim Quill]]) with his Type 56 Assault rifle during the final assault for Hill 937.]] | ||
| + | [[Image:HH-Type56Tunnela.jpg|thumb|none|600px|NVA hides in the tunnel - Type 56 rifles mixed in with Milled receiver AK-47 rifles.]] | ||
| + | [[Image:HH-NVAhillFinal 07a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
| + | [[Image:HH-NVAHillBunkerA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
==M60== | ==M60== | ||
[[Image:HH-M60HillFinala.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An unidentified 101st AB soldier fires his M60 machine gun during the final assault on Hill 937 - 7.62x51mm]] | [[Image:HH-M60HillFinala.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An unidentified 101st AB soldier fires his M60 machine gun during the final assault on Hill 937 - 7.62x51mm]] | ||
| + | [[Image:HH-M60a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Duffy ([[Harry O'Reilly]]) aims his M60 while Sgt. Franz ([[Dylan McDermott]]) calls in an airstrike - 7.62x51mm]] | ||
[[Image:HH-M60ChargeA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Duffy ([[Harry O'Reilly]]) runs into battle with his M60 - 7.62x51mm]] | [[Image:HH-M60ChargeA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Duffy ([[Harry O'Reilly]]) runs into battle with his M60 - 7.62x51mm]] | ||
| − | [[Image:m60battle.jpeg|thumb|none| | + | [[Image:HH-M60 Deada.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Duffy ([[Harry O'Reilly]]) lies dead next to his M60, a victim of friendly fire - 7.62x51mm]] |
| − | [[Image:m60blanks.jpeg|thumb|none| | + | [[Image:HH-M60NVAa.jpg|thumb|none|600px|NVA soldier uses an M60 in defense of his bunker, which is unlikely but not impossible.]] |
| − | [[Image:m60nva.jpeg|thumb|none| | + | [[Image:HH-NVALine-02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] |
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| + | [[Image:m60battle.jpeg|thumb|none|400px||GI charging into battle with M60.]] | ||
| + | [[Image:m60blanks.jpeg|thumb|none|400px||You can clearly see blanks on the ammo belt.]] | ||
| + | [[Image:m60nva.jpeg|thumb|none|400px||Towards the end of the film you can see an NVA soldier using a U.S issued M60 against the American infantry, the film makers probably had no access to an RPD at the time this movie was made.]] | ||
==M60D== | ==M60D== | ||
* The D Model of the M60 is seen on all helicopters in the film. | * The D Model of the M60 is seen on all helicopters in the film. | ||
| + | [[Image:HH-M60Da.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Always seen on helicopters, here is a clear shot of the spade grips of the M60D - 7.62x51mm]] | ||
[[Image:HH-M60DFriendlyFireA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Re-enacting a tragedy from the actual battle, an M60D machine gun is seen when American combat aircraft mistakenly fire on their own troops - 7.62x51mm]] | [[Image:HH-M60DFriendlyFireA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Re-enacting a tragedy from the actual battle, an M60D machine gun is seen when American combat aircraft mistakenly fire on their own troops - 7.62x51mm]] | ||
| − | ==SKS== | + | ==SKS/Type 56 Carbine== |
| − | [[[[Image:HH-Type56CarbineA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier is killed after | + | * The Chinese variant of the Russian SKS, the Type 56 Carbine with spike bayonet, is used by the NVA combatants in the film. |
| − | [[Image:sks1.jpg|thumb|none| | + | [[[[Image:HH-Type56CarbineA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier is killed after wounding Duffy ([[Harry O'Reilly]]) in the arm during a battle. The Soldier holds the Chinese Type 56 Carbine with spike bayonet - 7.62x39mm. ]] |
| − | [[Image:sks2.jpg|thumb|none| | + | [[Image:HH-SKS-bayonetA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|NVA soldier bayonets Sgt. Franz ([[Dylan McDermott]]) in his side during the final battle - 7.62x39mm]] |
| + | [[Image:HH-Type56Rainfalla.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A montage of the scene where the NVA soldier shoots Gaigin and Doc with his Type 56 Carbine (SKS). This is particularly hard to see due to the heavy rainfall and dense smoke of the scene. The front sight is flipped up, most likely occurring when the rifle snags on debris as the man crawls back and forth from his hole. The sight cannot be used in this manner for any sort of aimed fire, so he is purely pointing and shooting.]] | ||
| + | [[Image:HH-NVABunker 05a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
| + | [[Image:HH-NVALineFinalHilla.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
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| + | [[Image:sks1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|An NVA soldier uses a SKS to kill Gaigin and mortally wound Doc as he tries to help.]] | ||
| + | [[Image:sks2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|If you look closely you can see the rear sight is flipped up for some reason, this would make it impossible to aim the rifle.]] | ||
==M1911A1== | ==M1911A1== | ||
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==M79 grenade launcher== | ==M79 grenade launcher== | ||
* Used by McDaniel ([[Don James]]) and then later by Pvt. Joe Beletsky ([[Tim Quill]]) | * Used by McDaniel ([[Don James]]) and then later by Pvt. Joe Beletsky ([[Tim Quill]]) | ||
| + | [[Image:HH-M79a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|McDaniel ([[Don James]]) gestures for others to follow him, while carrying his M79 grenade Launcher - 40mm]] | ||
| + | [[Image:HH-M79 02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|McDaniel ([[Don James]]) chases fleeing NVA soldiers in the forest with his M79 grenade Launcher - 40mm]] | ||
[[Image:HH-M79fumbleA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Frantz ([[Dylan McDermott]]) looks on as Pvt. Joe Beletsky ([[Tim Quill]]) struggles to load and fire the M79 after being assigned grenadier after McDaniel's death - 40mm]] | [[Image:HH-M79fumbleA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Frantz ([[Dylan McDermott]]) looks on as Pvt. Joe Beletsky ([[Tim Quill]]) struggles to load and fire the M79 after being assigned grenadier after McDaniel's death - 40mm]] | ||
| + | [[Image:HH-M79HillFinalA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pvt. Joe Beletsky ([[Tim Quill]]) becomes much more adept at using the M79 launcher during the final battle for Hill 937]] | ||
| + | [[Image:HH-M79 FinalHillFighta.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pvt. Joe Beletsky ([[Tim Quill]]) fires his M79 Grenade Launcher - 40mm]] | ||
==M26 grenade== | ==M26 grenade== | ||
| + | * A variety of 'lemon grenades' are seen on soldier's web gear throughout the film. They are often seen from a distance on webbing or in men's hands as they are thrown. In real life they are supposed to be M61 Grenades (virtually identical to the M26A1 lemon grenades most associated with Vietnam), however, these have a slightly unusual shape, implying that they are some sort of 'trainer' grenade that is not often used to impersonate the M26/M61 series of grenades. | ||
| + | [[Image:HH-M61GrenadeA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
| + | [[Image:HH-M26GrenadeA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
==Fake RPG Training Aid== | ==Fake RPG Training Aid== | ||
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[[Image:HH-TrainingRPG 02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Han" says 'hello' to the new replacement soldiers]] | [[Image:HH-TrainingRPG 02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Han" says 'hello' to the new replacement soldiers]] | ||
| − | == | + | ==Chinese Type 58 Stick Grenade== |
| + | * Throughout the film, the enemy uses the Chinese Type 56 (aka Type I) stick grenade. It is an oval pineapple style grenade on a short wooden stick and noticeably shorter than the famous German Stielhandgranate of WW2 fame. | ||
| + | [[Image:HH-StickGrenadeA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
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| + | ==Browning M2HB Machine gun== | ||
| + | * Seen in the distance on some of the perimeter shots of the base camps and mounted on M113 APCs. | ||
| + | [[Image:HH-M2HBa.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M113 APC rolls by with soldiers 'grabbing a ride'. An Browning M2HB is visible mounted on the front - .50 BMG. Contrary to what is depicted in the film, soldiers riding vehicles were supposed to wear their M55 or M68 flak jackets, even though they were not bullet proof, they protected against grenade or bomb fragments, including roadside mines and boobytraps. Only in close quarters battle where quick movement trumped ballistic protection, did the soldiers ditch their flak vests.]] | ||
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Revision as of 00:43, 7 June 2009
- 1:00AM. my machine is crapping out, I will upload tomorrow using a different computer MoviePropMaster2008 08:33, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
The following guns were used in this movie:
M16A1
Sgt. Franz (Dylan McDermott) oversees an evac of his platoon onto UH-1D Helicopters. He carries an XM16-E1 Rifle - 5.56mm
Left to right: Washburn (Don Cheadle), Bienstock (Tommy Swerdlow), and Galvan (Michael A. Nickles) have a laugh at Languilli's (Anthony Barrile) expense. The three pronged flash hider on their XM16-E1 rifles are clearly shown here.
Sgt. Franz (Dylan McDermott) sits atop his 'hooch' with his XM16-E1, enjoying the sunshine - 5.56mm
MGC Replica M16
- Soldiers in the beginning of the film have ModelGun Corp replica MGC M16s slung to their backs as they load wounded onto helicopters. One of the giveaways is the 'blued' 20 round magazine (the real 20 round magazine is anodyzed aluminum), the shape of the pistol grip and the rear sling swivel. The most obvious detail is not seen here, the fake forward assist of the replica rifle.
File:HH-MGCM16 01a.jpg
Soldiers of the 101st carry wounded with MGC M16 Replica rifles slung to their backs.
AK-47
Chinese Type 56 Assault Rifle
- Other than the milled receiver AK-47s (which are probably Poly-Technology Legend series rifles), there are obvious stamped receiver Type 56 style AK rifles with underfolder spike bayonets (aka "PigSticker")
Pvt. Joe Beletsky (Tim Quill) takes a Type 56 Assault rifle from a dead NVA - 7.62x39mm. Note the extended 'israeli style' screw on blank adapter.
A montage of Pvt. Joe Beletsky (Tim Quill) with his Type 56 Assault rifle during the final assault for Hill 937.
M60
Duffy (Harry O'Reilly) aims his M60 while Sgt. Franz (Dylan McDermott) calls in an airstrike - 7.62x51mm
Duffy (Harry O'Reilly) runs into battle with his M60 - 7.62x51mm
Duffy (Harry O'Reilly) lies dead next to his M60, a victim of friendly fire - 7.62x51mm
File:HH-M60NVAa.jpg
NVA soldier uses an M60 in defense of his bunker, which is unlikely but not impossible.
File:M60battle.jpeg
GI charging into battle with M60.
File:M60blanks.jpeg
You can clearly see blanks on the ammo belt.
File:M60nva.jpeg
Towards the end of the film you can see an NVA soldier using a U.S issued M60 against the American infantry, the film makers probably had no access to an RPD at the time this movie was made.
M60D
- The D Model of the M60 is seen on all helicopters in the film.
SKS/Type 56 Carbine
- The Chinese variant of the Russian SKS, the Type 56 Carbine with spike bayonet, is used by the NVA combatants in the film.
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An NVA soldier is killed after wounding Duffy (Harry O'Reilly) in the arm during a battle. The Soldier holds the Chinese Type 56 Carbine with spike bayonet - 7.62x39mm.
NVA soldier bayonets Sgt. Franz (Dylan McDermott) in his side during the final battle - 7.62x39mm
A montage of the scene where the NVA soldier shoots Gaigin and Doc with his Type 56 Carbine (SKS). This is particularly hard to see due to the heavy rainfall and dense smoke of the scene. The front sight is flipped up, most likely occurring when the rifle snags on debris as the man crawls back and forth from his hole. The sight cannot be used in this manner for any sort of aimed fire, so he is purely pointing and shooting.
File:Sks1.jpg
An NVA soldier uses a SKS to kill Gaigin and mortally wound Doc as he tries to help.
File:Sks2.jpg
If you look closely you can see the rear sight is flipped up for some reason, this would make it impossible to aim the rifle.
M1911A1
M79 grenade launcher
McDaniel (Don James) gestures for others to follow him, while carrying his M79 grenade Launcher - 40mm
McDaniel (Don James) chases fleeing NVA soldiers in the forest with his M79 grenade Launcher - 40mm
Sgt. Frantz (Dylan McDermott) looks on as Pvt. Joe Beletsky (Tim Quill) struggles to load and fire the M79 after being assigned grenadier after McDaniel's death - 40mm
Pvt. Joe Beletsky (Tim Quill) becomes much more adept at using the M79 launcher during the final battle for Hill 937
Pvt. Joe Beletsky (Tim Quill) fires his M79 Grenade Launcher - 40mm
M26 grenade
- A variety of 'lemon grenades' are seen on soldier's web gear throughout the film. They are often seen from a distance on webbing or in men's hands as they are thrown. In real life they are supposed to be M61 Grenades (virtually identical to the M26A1 lemon grenades most associated with Vietnam), however, these have a slightly unusual shape, implying that they are some sort of 'trainer' grenade that is not often used to impersonate the M26/M61 series of grenades.
Fake RPG Training Aid
- When Sgt. Frantz (Dylan McDermott) is lecturing the new members of the platoon, he uses a former NVA crossover (a participant in the Chu Hoi program) named "Han" to demonstrate how 'not paying attention' will get them killed. Han is 'armed' with a long empty tube made to resemble an RPG launcher of sorts. It has a dud Warhead on it. "Han" demonstrates his skill and ability by avoiding the noisemakers, trip wire and barbed wire of the perimeter to get within striking distance of the G.I.s
Chinese Type 58 Stick Grenade
- Throughout the film, the enemy uses the Chinese Type 56 (aka Type I) stick grenade. It is an oval pineapple style grenade on a short wooden stick and noticeably shorter than the famous German Stielhandgranate of WW2 fame.
Browning M2HB Machine gun
- Seen in the distance on some of the perimeter shots of the base camps and mounted on M113 APCs.
An M113 APC rolls by with soldiers 'grabbing a ride'. An Browning M2HB is visible mounted on the front - .50 BMG. Contrary to what is depicted in the film, soldiers riding vehicles were supposed to wear their M55 or M68 flak jackets, even though they were not bullet proof, they protected against grenade or bomb fragments, including roadside mines and boobytraps. Only in close quarters battle where quick movement trumped ballistic protection, did the soldiers ditch their flak vests.
