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:The muskets are not Charleville, they are replica guns (when they "fire", the lock doesn't move and only a small grey cloud of smoke appear at the muzzle). I assume the base gun for these replicas to be some Spanish musket of Napoleonic era but as I couldn't find an image of such musket, I put the sample of Charleville for comparison, as I wrote on the page. About the carbine: I think it to be a caplock, not a flintlock but there is some doubt so I'll look again, more carefully. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 16:27, 19 March 2016 (EDT)
 
:The muskets are not Charleville, they are replica guns (when they "fire", the lock doesn't move and only a small grey cloud of smoke appear at the muzzle). I assume the base gun for these replicas to be some Spanish musket of Napoleonic era but as I couldn't find an image of such musket, I put the sample of Charleville for comparison, as I wrote on the page. About the carbine: I think it to be a caplock, not a flintlock but there is some doubt so I'll look again, more carefully. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 16:27, 19 March 2016 (EDT)
 
::As [http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/MS1757.SHTML here] wrote, Spanish muskets are variants af French Charleville. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 16:44, 19 March 2016 (EDT)
 
::As [http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/MS1757.SHTML here] wrote, Spanish muskets are variants af French Charleville. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 16:44, 19 March 2016 (EDT)
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:::The image posted above is definitely a flintlock, you can see the frizzen (the part that the flint hits which also acts as the pan cover) is open in the above image, something which you do for loading and the gun would actually be unable to fire in this configuration. The spring for the frizzen is also clearly visible, a part which doesn't have an analogue on a caplock. As for the last image I think that this is actually a different gun, as the "hammer" is clearly not holding a flint. I am also not convinced that it is a caplock, as too me it looks like there is too much going on just ahead of the hammer, and also the part that the hammer hits is much higher profile than is typical of a normal percussion cap nipple (there is no need for it to stick out this far and would actually be less effective. To me, this part looks more like a firing pin housing that you get on some cartridge conversion type rifled muskets, for example the [[Snider-Enfield Rifle]]. Is this particular rifle ever shown better to see if it actually has a ramrod, as this might help identify if it is a muzzle loader or not. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 21:38, 19 March 2016 (EDT)

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The major of muskets are the Charleville Muskets. Pyramid Silent (talk) 16:03, 19 March 2016 (EDT)

Original Charleville Mle 1763 - .69 caliber
Also, on this shot the gun is flintlock. And it's seem very similar to Model 1786 Hussar Carbine with removed muzzle yellow part (I don't know, how it's titled). Pyramid Silent (talk) 16:14, 19 March 2016 (EDT)
A carbine is seen close at the left in the scene of the arrest of Brother Francisco.
Model 1786 Hussar Carbine (modern Pedersoli "Ussaro Mod 1786" replica) - .69 caliber
The muskets are not Charleville, they are replica guns (when they "fire", the lock doesn't move and only a small grey cloud of smoke appear at the muzzle). I assume the base gun for these replicas to be some Spanish musket of Napoleonic era but as I couldn't find an image of such musket, I put the sample of Charleville for comparison, as I wrote on the page. About the carbine: I think it to be a caplock, not a flintlock but there is some doubt so I'll look again, more carefully. Greg-Z (talk) 16:27, 19 March 2016 (EDT)
As here wrote, Spanish muskets are variants af French Charleville. Pyramid Silent (talk) 16:44, 19 March 2016 (EDT)
The image posted above is definitely a flintlock, you can see the frizzen (the part that the flint hits which also acts as the pan cover) is open in the above image, something which you do for loading and the gun would actually be unable to fire in this configuration. The spring for the frizzen is also clearly visible, a part which doesn't have an analogue on a caplock. As for the last image I think that this is actually a different gun, as the "hammer" is clearly not holding a flint. I am also not convinced that it is a caplock, as too me it looks like there is too much going on just ahead of the hammer, and also the part that the hammer hits is much higher profile than is typical of a normal percussion cap nipple (there is no need for it to stick out this far and would actually be less effective. To me, this part looks more like a firing pin housing that you get on some cartridge conversion type rifled muskets, for example the Snider-Enfield Rifle. Is this particular rifle ever shown better to see if it actually has a ramrod, as this might help identify if it is a muzzle loader or not. --commando552 (talk) 21:38, 19 March 2016 (EDT)

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