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==Ruger Standard?==
 
==Ruger Standard?==
 
Am I correct in thinking that the first image on this page is not a Ruger Mk I, but rather a Ruger Standard? I thought the Ruger Mk I was originally a target version of the Standard with a longer barrel, adjustable rear sights and an undercut front sight blade. I think they stuck with calling the original fixed sight pistol the Ruger Standard up until it was replaced by the Mk II.--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:47, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
 
Am I correct in thinking that the first image on this page is not a Ruger Mk I, but rather a Ruger Standard? I thought the Ruger Mk I was originally a target version of the Standard with a longer barrel, adjustable rear sights and an undercut front sight blade. I think they stuck with calling the original fixed sight pistol the Ruger Standard up until it was replaced by the Mk II.--[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:47, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
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The first image is the original Ruger Standard Model and it was advertised as Standard model (no Mark) from 1949 to 1982; when Ruger produced a target version in 1951 it was called the Mark I Target model (same mechanism as Standard model just added target features).
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Ruger's Manual for the 1982 Mark II update lists models officially called Standard, Target, Government Target, Competition and 22/45.
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Ruger's Manual for 2004 Mark III update adds the Hunter model to the family of models.
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Ruger's Manual for the 2016 Mark IV redesign lists Standard, Target, Hunter, and Competition models. (Ruger's current web page adds 22/45, 22/45 Lite, and 22/45 Tactical to the Mark IV model line.)
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My 1980s Ruger Mark II standard model is stamped "RUGER MK II". I have not seen a Ruger 1949-1982 Standard Model receiver stamped "Mark I" or "MK I" nor any ads over the years referring to a Standard Model as a Mark I. In my opinion, referring to the Standard Model as Mark I is a backronym, applying backwards in time the naming scheme introduced in 1982 with the Mark II redesign to the original 1949-1982 design Standard and Mark I Target models.
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(BTW Ruger's manuals use "Mark"; people including me use Mark, MK or Mk interchangeably.)
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-- [[User:Carl N. Brown|Carl N. Brown]] ([[User talk:Carl N. Brown|talk]]) 09:14, 18 April 2017 (EDT)

Revision as of 13:14, 18 April 2017

Other Variants

The Ruger Mk II used in the film Collateral - .22 LR
Ruger Mk III Competiion - .22 LR
Ruger Mk III Target - .22 LR
Ruger Mk III Hunter - .22 LR
Ruger Mk. II with suppressor - .22 LR
Ruger 22/45 "Lite" - .22 LR
Ruger Mk II pistol with Tactical Solutions Pac-Lite Threaded Barrel OD - .22 LR.

Discussion

Ruger Standard?

Am I correct in thinking that the first image on this page is not a Ruger Mk I, but rather a Ruger Standard? I thought the Ruger Mk I was originally a target version of the Standard with a longer barrel, adjustable rear sights and an undercut front sight blade. I think they stuck with calling the original fixed sight pistol the Ruger Standard up until it was replaced by the Mk II.--commando552 (talk) 13:47, 18 August 2013 (EDT)

The first image is the original Ruger Standard Model and it was advertised as Standard model (no Mark) from 1949 to 1982; when Ruger produced a target version in 1951 it was called the Mark I Target model (same mechanism as Standard model just added target features).

Ruger's Manual for the 1982 Mark II update lists models officially called Standard, Target, Government Target, Competition and 22/45.

Ruger's Manual for 2004 Mark III update adds the Hunter model to the family of models.

Ruger's Manual for the 2016 Mark IV redesign lists Standard, Target, Hunter, and Competition models. (Ruger's current web page adds 22/45, 22/45 Lite, and 22/45 Tactical to the Mark IV model line.)

My 1980s Ruger Mark II standard model is stamped "RUGER MK II". I have not seen a Ruger 1949-1982 Standard Model receiver stamped "Mark I" or "MK I" nor any ads over the years referring to a Standard Model as a Mark I. In my opinion, referring to the Standard Model as Mark I is a backronym, applying backwards in time the naming scheme introduced in 1982 with the Mark II redesign to the original 1949-1982 design Standard and Mark I Target models. (BTW Ruger's manuals use "Mark"; people including me use Mark, MK or Mk interchangeably.) -- Carl N. Brown (talk) 09:14, 18 April 2017 (EDT)


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