Talk:Cuba

Fake Thompsons

I'm not sure the Thompson is s real Thompson. There appears to be a magazine housing, which isn't found on a real Thompson. This looks like a great movie for obscure SMGs though. --Funkychinaman (talk) 17:52, 19 October 2016 (EDT)

The Thompson looks like the Volunteer Carbine or the Spitfire fitted with a normal 1928A1 foregrip. This does seem like a gold mine of images of oddball SMG's, though I don't know how accurate most of them are to Batista's troops as well as Castro's guerrillas. --PaperCake 20:34, 19 October 2016 (EST)

So we have two different versions of fake Tommy Guns. The first one is mocked up in 1928A1 style with wooden handguard, and the trigger guard connects the pistol grip and the magazine housing. The second version has a foregrip, and the space between the pistol grip and magazine housing is significant. A possible source for the second version is Labora SMG. I'm not sure in this guess, the barrel with cooling fins, the distance between the pistol grip and housing and the shape and size of the housing itself allowed me to make such guess but it may be wrong. Parinco Model 3R is also a possible guess though it has a longer barrel than the one on the last screenshot.

Parinco Model 3R - 9x19mm

Labora Fontbernat M1938 - 9x19mm Par or 9x23mm Largo

An unknown SMG at the right.

An unknown SMG is seen at the left.

A close view of the barrel of the same gun. Note that the cooling fins are different from a Thompson, and the barrel itself seems shorter.

What concerns the 1928A1-style version, I doubt that it's a Spitfire or Volunteer. Screen guns have longer magazine housings that both Spitfire or Volunteer; and these guns are nearly unheard of in Old World.

Spitfire Submachine Gun (a modified version of the carbine with a shortened barrel and converted to full-automatic) - .45 ACP

Volunteer Enterprises Commando Mark III - .45 ACP

A fake M1928A1 at the left

A fake Thompson in the final scene in airport.

Some more fake Thompsons in Spanish-filmed movies:

• With wooden handguard

There Be Dragons - this one looks especially like Labora

Hell of the Living Dead

Hell of the Living Dead

• With foregrip

From Hell to Victory

Hell of the Living Dead

- Greg-Z (talk) 03:16, 20 October 2016 (EDT)

Shermans

Just a bit of trivia about the Shermans in this film. They are fibreglass Sherman Firefly replica's built on landrover chasis, originally built for A Bridge Too Far. You can clearly see this (the landrover wheels inside the tracks) in the second screencap. The gun on one has been "sawn off" fairly crudely judging by the first screencap, its also fairly obvious the outer barrel is a simple pipe. I would imagine the "20mm gun" inside the barrel is probably a pyrotechnic firing device which would be hidden inside the full length 17 pdr barrel. --Maskedweasel (talk) 14:59, 8 January 2017 (EST)

A surprising info, thanks! I'll add it to the page. Greg-Z (talk) 15:19, 8 January 2017 (EST) I guess the M10 Tank Destroyer is a more real vehicle? Greg-Z (talk) 15:20, 8 January 2017 (EST)