Difference between revisions of "Talk:Burn Notice - Season 6"

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Please help ID

Not sure about this handgun. --Ben41 18:39, 15 June 2012 (CDT)

At first I thought it was a SIG Sauer P229R but looking a bit more closely it looks like it could be a compact Glock, probably a Glock 19. --cool-breeze 18:52, 15 June 2012 (CDT)

That would be my best guess.----JazzBlackBelt-- 01:06, 16 June 2012 (CDT)

Nickel 1911

In the second screenshot it looks like it has Colt rollmarks, just because it has the full length guide rod does not make it not a Colt pistol as the full length guide rod could have been installed after purchase. --cool-breeze 03:05, 16 June 2012 (CDT)

There's also a quick shot when Michael picks it up that it shows Colt on the magazine. I know it's not conclusive but just as compelling FWIW. I'm also inclined to believe the guide rod is aftermarket. I'm having trouble coming up with 1911 manufacturers that include a stainless guide rod stock yet have all other "vanilla" features like a standard (non-beavertailed) grip or raised sights. I think Norinco MIGHT make a 1911 like that, but the information is really unreliable. - IGemini 19:52, 22 June 2012 (CDT)

Glock

Does anyone else think that the Glock used in the season 6 premier is a Glock 19, not a 17? --Mormonpowerranger521

I'm with you. It looks to short to be a Glock 17. Puppet.of.fate 12:30, 16 June 2012 (CDT)

I agree.----JazzBlackBelt-- 13:38, 16 June 2012 (CDT)

3rd Generation Glock 19 - 9x19mm

The guard holds his pistol on an "injured" Michael. (S6E01)

New guns

Since nobody's worked on this page for a while, a few observations about new guns in the series:

(1.) Jesse seems to have started using a rail-frame, stainless P226R (updating his sidearm choice slightly) in this season, though I also thought it appeared at least once last season.

(2.) Episode 6x06 prominently featured Smith & Wesson M&P-15 rifles with dark earth furniture. I think this may be the first time that the M&P-15 has appeared in Hollywood.

-MT2008 10:53, 27 July 2012 (CDT)

I noticed the rifles you mentioned, but from the glimpses I've seen at least one looked like it had Magpul furniture. I'll probably re-watch it and see.----JazzBlackBelt-- 23:25, 28 July 2012 (CDT)

What makes you think this is an M&P-15, from what I can see it is just an M4 with Magpul furniture. Are there any unique features that make this an M&P-15 rather than a Colt gun? Anyway, the M&P-15 MOE (the version with the Magpul furniture) has a 16" barrel whereas this gun has the standard M4 14.5" barrel. --commando552 12:33, 29 July 2012 (CDT)

Fair enough, you might be right, although I'm pretty sure that they make LE versions of the M&P-15 that have 14.5" barrels. Though it also doesn't seem to have the correct markings on the magazine well... -MT2008 13:21, 29 July 2012 (CDT)

Some shots of the rifle, is it in MP15? No MP logo? --Ben41 18:29, 29 July 2012 (CDT)

In "Shock Wave" (S6E06), the Smith & Wesson MP15 is seen carried by some of the men employed by Garret Hartley (William Mapother).

"Shock Wave" (S6E06)

I guess that for now, we should just put that it's an M4 with Magpul furniture, as Commando pointed out. -MT2008 19:20, 29 July 2012 (CDT)

M4A1

Michael's CIA trainer Tom Card (John C. McGinley) readies an M4A1 with an EOTech sight outside Kemp's house in "Mixed Messages" (S06E02).

This is clearly not an M4A1, as it only has a two-position fire selector, Safe and Fire. Judging by the barrel length on some of the rifles listed under M4A1, I think that they might actually be Colt LE Carbines. --SmithandWesson36 19:51, 29 July 2012 (CDT)

It has a 14.5" barrel so I think it should be classified as an M4. It is hard to tell from some of the camera angles, but I think all of the weapons have 14.5" barrels other than the first two pictures (and possibly the one for "Split Decision") which have 16" barrels making them LE6920 Colt Law Enforcement Carbines. In terms of film/TV weapos you really cannot judge them by the lower receiver, as the majority of weapons will be civilian semi auto weapons that have either had the lower replaced with a different full auto one or have had the sear swapped out to convert them to auto. In this case as the lower only has the semi markings, that would probably make it (assuming it is a colt gun) an LE6921, also called the M4LE Carbine. As it is impossible to tell these LE M4s from military M4s without seeing the selector markings (and most of the time they will be depicted as full auto guns), I think these should be listed as M4s. --commando552 07:26, 30 July 2012 (CDT)

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 [[File:BurnS6E02 03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Michael's CIA trainer Tom Card ([[John C. McGinley]]) readies an M4A1 with an EOTech sight outside Kemp's house in "Mixed Messages" (S06E02).]]
 This is clearly not an M4A1, as it only has a two-position fire selector, Safe and Fire. Judging by the barrel length on some of the rifles listed under M4A1, I think that they might actually be Colt LE Carbines. --[[User:SmithandWesson36|SmithandWesson36]] 19:51, 29 July 2012 (CDT)
+:It has a 14.5" barrel so I think it should be classified as an M4. It is hard to tell from some of the camera angles, but I think all of the weapons have 14.5" barrels other than the first two pictures (and possibly the one for "Split Decision") which have 16" barrels making them LE6920 Colt Law Enforcement Carbines. In terms of film/TV weapos you really cannot judge them by the lower receiver, as the majority of weapons will be civilian semi auto weapons that have either had the lower replaced with a different full auto one or have had the sear swapped out to convert them to auto. In this case as the lower only has the semi markings, that would probably make it (assuming it is a colt gun) an LE6921, also called the M4LE Carbine. As it is impossible to tell these LE M4s from military M4s without seeing the selector markings (and most of the time they will be depicted as full auto guns), I think these should be listed as M4s.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 07:26, 30 July 2012 (CDT)