Talk:Red (2010)

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What's that chunky anti-material rifle hanging up in John Malkovic's gun-den? Looks to me like a Steyr 50HS, except with a custom scope?? - Bigchiefreefa

I think it might be an AR-50. The one in the movie has the same horizontal grooves as an Ar-50. Also, the rifle in the movie doesn't have a magazine. The Ar-50 is a single-shot .50cal. I think it's one of the two. -Dr. Feelgood

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Anyone know what this is?

I don't know power tools so I need help ;) mpm What is Malkovich holding and loading?

It's for punching concrete nails. You insert .22 blanks, and it pressures out nails with a sabot. --Gwhysow 18:35, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

I KNEW it was some sort of hammer, but do you know which one?

It is a HILTI DX 460-F8. http://www.hilti.de/holde/page/module/product/prca_rangedetail.jsf?lang=de&nodeId=-69275

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Yahoo movies just released a new trailer that shows some more guns and better angles on the ones we already know. Just FYI.--Spades of Columbia 18:33, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

fitting for a character that act crazy to be using a nail gun

He's not using the nail gun as a weapon but too bolt down the .50 tripod and in the above pic is preparing to fix the mechanism that holds the trigger down. --Sidewinder Forge 08:32, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Loved the part when he saidL "the Secret Service used to be tougher", sounds like a reference to In the Line of Fire. Too bad Clint Eastwood isn't in this film too.--Wildcards 11:52, 9 March 2011 (MSK)

KARL URBAN'S SIG 226 SPORT

Though at first sight I had hoped for a custom comp'd 1911, I realized that he was holding a Sport. Again, I could be a little off, but take a look for yourself.

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2815066112/tt1245526

--Gwhysow 18:42, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

That it correct...it is a Sig 226 Sport or the 220 sport.--Spades of Columbia 19:02, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

I think I see double stack bulges in the grip making it the P226 Sport but I can't be sure.

I dunno, I mean, yes it appears to have double stack bulges, but the bore diameter looks far too large to be 9mm, not to mention that his compensator is much longer than the one in the P226 Sport picture.--Pølaris 15:16, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

The pistol is a 220 sport, and not a 226, because of the features of the compensator and muzzle diameter.

Saw this last night, definitely a P220 Sport, there are no bulges on the frame.--Pølaris 17:21, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Helen Mirren's Sniper Rifle

Anyone know what it is? You see it briefly when she makes the "girl time" remark in one of the trailers. I think it may be something like a Mk12 or maybe an M4 with a sniper scope. --Charon68 23:02, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

You get a much better view of it in the newer trailer. I'd dump a screen-shot in but I'm at work and don't have access (damn you web marshall!). At a glance I thought it was either a modified M4 or an M16 SPR. But I could easily be well off the mark. Anyone (smarter than me) got a better clue? --bigchiefreefa 12:30 26 Juy 2010 (GMT)

It's a standard M16A4 style HBAR flat top upper with a GemTech Suppressor, standard A2 handguards with a Harris Bipod mounted and a CAA Sharp Shooting Stock on the back end. (edit) BTW, I got one of these with a CAA stock. Just have to make sure all the other details are correct before I photograph the gun. :) MoviePropMaster2008 21:15, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
Helen Mirren with an M16A4 flat top HBAR rifle with a GemTech Suppressor, standard A2 handguards with a Harris Bipod mounted and a CAA Sharp Shooting Stock on the back end - 5.56mm
Closer shot detailing the CAA Sharp Shooter Buttstock for the M16 - 5.56mm
CAA ARS Sharp Shooter Stock for M16/M4

New Guns

I just saw an advanced free screening. I am going to add that there was an AKMS, an M240 with spade grips, a corner shot with a Glock (unknown model) and M68 Aimpoint, a regular P226 used by William Cooper's (Keith Urban) supervisor (movie name Cynthia), and either a p228 or p229 used by the secret service agents. Also am M26 Taser, and either an M21 or M14 on John Malkoviche's character's safe house (only saw the left side). It's late and I'm tired, just putting this up so I don't forget tomorrow.--Gunkatas 03:14, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

in one of the trailers I think I saw some one holding a corner shot.

Guns used to shoot up Frank Moses' house in Ohio

In the db, it was stated that maybe a PKM was used. I thought it looked like a M249 with the handguard removed. It definitely had a different bipod than on the PKM. The bipod looked like it was from a Barrett M82A.

It looks to feed from the right, and the M249 dosn't do that dos is? As far as I know, only Russian guns feed from the right.--Mandolin 22:30, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

The barrel alignment isn't right for a PKM. [It's either an RPD with no foresight or an M60 with no foresight or handgaurd-User:SargeOverkill

I think its an RPD. maybe?

It might also be the FN MAG in the weapons cache.

PKM? In the film, the machine gun feeds from the right and has the charging handle on the right side. --Ben41 23:35, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

I saw a pretty good still of the reciever of this weapon and it looks like a PKM reciever. It has that large drop forward of the ammo feed and what looks like rimmed cartridges and a skeleton buttstock and nondisintegrating belt feed.

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It is a PKM machine gun modified with accessories from Blackheart International (http://www.bhigear.com). They purchased 2 accessory kits from us to modify PKM's. We did not get to see the final modifications they did to the PKM, but as you can see from the movie screenshot above, they cut off the fron sight.

BHI-SOPMOD-PKM.jpg


Thanks so much for that info! Really cool! -MT2008 02:26, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

.45 acp appeared to be a Para

When Moses goes into the Russian Embassy, he hands over his pistol to those left in car, it seemed to me to be a Para or Kimber, hard to tell but it did have a stamp of some large sort on Slide? just a thought? Notice Skeletonized Hammer for one. Ambi-Safety for 2.


Helen Mirren

I think it was on Entertainment Tonight, yes I watch it, that Mirren mentions the weapons training she had to go through in order to be allowed to handle loaded firearms. As a side note, one of my fav weapons related moments in this movie was when Malkovich reverently kisses an SMG and says "Swedish K, now that is exciting." --Charon68 16:52, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

I think the Carl Gustav M45 was a favorite with special forces in the 1960-1970s

Also regarding Helen Mirren: She performs the HK slap like a pro during the scene with the MP-5Ks. Awesome. --rlapid2112

Questionable sources

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I'm removing this screencap from the actual page, since it looks like it was jacked from an illegal copy, most likely a bad cam version. This should also be removed from here later. We can't go around taking screencaps from dvdscreeners/cams/telesyncs(=crap) beacause if some studio boss sees this they're gonna be all over this page. You should wait for the BLU-Ray/DVD to be released. --Warejaws 18:40, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

The Colt MK IV Series 80 is not used by former CIA operative Frank Moses. He used Para 1911 GI Expert.

I'm sure for 100%.

The only thing potentially disproving this is the the ambidextrous safety. The GI Expert lack that. Unless an armorer for the film claims he added an ambi safety for the piece, I'm not 100% sold. - Gunmaster45

Well, Bruce is a well known south paw so it could be likely that a good armorer would be prepared for this.--Spades of Columbia 22:14, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

How can it be that para when it clearly does not say GI Expert on the slide? Look at the last pic. Nothing on the slide.

You can make out the stamp on the slide actually if you look closesly. - Gunmaster45

No you cant make out any lettering on the weapon. Gunman2006

Joe Matheson's 1911

Joe Matheson's (Morgan Freeman) 1911 is listed as a GI Expert Para-Ordnance likes Frank's. I'm unsure if it is, but I found this pic on IMDb:

Note this 1911 is single stack stainless with pearl grips and a suppressor.

Unsure if it is a GI Expert or not, but I'm unsure of the make. - Gunmaster45

Reference

I have not seen the movie, so I don't know if it's already been said, but the screencap below reminds me of the incursion of the ESU in Leon.

Red (2010).
Leon (1994).

Or am I wrong?--Charly Driver 13:37, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

The mook from red is falling backwords after being shot. the mook for Leon has he hands up because Leon took him hostage

coincidence since a lot of movies and shows tend to copy off of each other in terms of shots Excalibur01 04:21, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Milkor MGL?

In the "Hidden Cache of Weapons" part Charon68 mislaved a granade launcher as a Milkor MGL, I'm 103% sure is the same DefTech prop from The Incredible Hulk. Here, compare

Incredible Hulk:

37mm barrel, full stock, chubby RIS handguard.

Red:

Same full stock and fat RIS handguard.

Isn't it true that you should not store guns horizantally because it will dis-align the barrel? --yocapo32 00:41, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I mean rifles, not pistols --Sergei Titov 13:49, 15 October 2011 (CDT)Сергей Титов

What?! - Mr. Wolf 15:37, 1 September 2011 (CDT)
It is indeed the same launcher in both movies. Movie Armaments Group supplied the weapons on both productions. -MT2008 16:04, 1 September 2011 (CDT)

Unknown Under Barrel Revolver Attachment

When the team are in the woods (I won't go into details for spoilers sake), John Malkovich's Smith and Wesson has some sort of underbarrel attachment. It's not just a flashlight mount (that's sort of on the side), this looks more like some kind of single shot shotgun barrel, like a mini M203. Any ideas? --Cole Thorton 26th January, 2011

There is a clearer shot of the bottom pic in this months empire magazine and you can see a flashlight to the left side of the pistol and youre right, what can only be descrided as a shotun barrel underslung the revolver. I have no idea what it is tho --Captain Snikt 08:39, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2423227904/tt1245526

Clearer pic at link --Captain Snikt 08:43, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

S&W 629 with Cooey Shotgun attachment: Many Thanks!

The S&W handgun carried by Boggs after visiting Dunning's home is a S&W Model 629 with a Cooey Single Barrel Shotgun attached. Just wanted to say thanks for the IMFDB exclusive! --Ben41 05:24, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

M.A.G Red rev2.jpg

I want to thank you for pointing that out, you have no idea how long that has been puzzling me. Many thanks! -Cole

Assassin's Pistol?

Just saw it, the assassin who went after Joe early on had a suppressed pistol, Can anyone tell what it is?

Browning Comment

Can you really say with certainty that the the .50 cal would go through those SUVs? Presidential vehicles are extremely heavily armored, five inches thick I believe. It seems to me like the people building these vehicles would have taken .50 cal rounds into account... -- K 98.118.59.151 00:14, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

i agree. i doubt a tank round could go through The Beast, let alone a .50 BMG. -Winn

two missing weapons

Right before the credits of the movie (at 01:44:00) you can see two 92FS pistols falling down with a bunch of frag grenades when the picture of Willis and the girl turns into a book cover. Also there are two M1911-look-a-like pistols right after the Berettas. (Sorry, I really suck at the Colt-clones, they all look the same for me.) I don't own a "decent" version of the movie so I cannot upload the screens, if you know what I mean.... anyways, I hope someone can upload those two pistols. bozitojugg3rn4ut 19:43, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Continuity error on the GI Expert

In the scene where Willis first uses the GI Expert. If you go scence-by-scene when he loads it, the weapon has a traditional GI Rod and Plug assembly. However, while he is clearing the house there are two close ups of the weapon firing that clearly display a full-length guide rod. This is either a different weapon or the recoil system was changed for some reason for the action shots.

Browning M2

i remember the part when Helen Mirren is firing at the Vice President's Motorcade. and the bullets don't penetrate the doors on the surburban. if i'm not mistaken, those surburbans were outfitted with armor. i mean, he's the vice president, not just the president gets armored vehicles. im pretty sure im right.

RPN?

When Joe is introducing Victoria, he calls her the "Best wetwork asset in the business. And a true artist with an RPN." I've been trying to find out what he means by an RPN. Considering the other weapons she uses [She is an accomplished Sniper, but also uses submachine guns and emplaced weapons], I'd venture to guess it's a high-caliber rifle. But I haven't found anything like it.

Never heard of a weapon by that name and acronym finders bring up nothing. Unless she's an artist with a rotating plug nozzle, which sounds terrible and wrong. Evil Tim 02:40, 9 July 2011 (CDT)
Found this searching on IMDB website Red Goofs page Turns out RPN is not what we might have thought it would have been.

RPG scene on Mythbusters

They just busted the RPG scene on Mythbusters. basically the blast from the RPG would be directed at Boggs not the assassin lady. Rockwolf66 23:25, 28 September 2011 (CDT)

Sequel

Anybody else as stoked as I am for the sequel coming out in August? Here's the trailer if you haven't seen it yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UI4V-0k3PY - User: 2wingo

Did Bruce Willis use 2 different 1911s?

I ask because I recently rewatched the film and noticed that when he's about to go into the Russian Embassy, he gives his 1911 to Marvin. However it appears to have an extended slide lock but when he pulls the 1911 out of the box he buried when his home is attacked, it appears to be a normal slide lock. The 2 pictures are already up on this site from a previous poster Bristow8411 (talk) 19:56, 23 January 2013 (EST)

Maadi AK-47

At the end of the film Marvin (John Malkovich) is holding what appears to Maadi AK-47, but not AKMS (seen on folding stock).

Akm-maadi-deactivated--3920-p.jpg
Pay attention to the stock


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