Talk:Hold the Dark

Trivia

Toy Army

Numerous "gun wielding" toy soldiers can be seen in Bailey's (Beckam Crawford) room.

Bailey plants the "rifle" wielding toy soldier in the snow.

Numerous toy soldiers can be seen on the table.

Armored Vehicles

A few armored vehicles and one combat helicopter can be seen in Iraq.

The helicopter can be seen at the top of the image, and an armored vehicle and a Humvee can be seen in the background. The soldier at the far right holds an M4 Carbine.

News report

A few tanks and armored vehicles with mounted machine guns can be seen in a news report on the Battle of Fallujah.

Several tanks can be seen on the TV screen.

The Browning machine gun can be seen mounted on the tank.

Discussion

Where do you get all these guns from? Out of the air? I do not see the M3 infrared sight (and this is not the M3), let alone everything else. And Mauser Selbstlader... huh. --Slon95 (talk) 13:10, 8 April 2019 (EDT)

The M3 is just another Mini-14. --Funkychinaman (talk) 13:29, 8 April 2019 (EDT)

And that is not an M1919, it's an M2 .50 caliber machine gun. --Funkychinaman (talk) 13:58, 8 April 2019 (EDT)

The M2 carbine is also another Mini-14. --Funkychinaman (talk) 14:00, 8 April 2019 (EDT)

The Hawk 372 is just another Remington 870, but with a slug barrel and a sling attachment on the barrel nut. --Funkychinaman (talk) 14:02, 8 April 2019 (EDT)

The same about the "FN Trombone". And I do not see the distinctive features of the Springfield M1911. And G3 is clearly not an early version with wooden furniture, but HK91. --Slon95 (talk) 14:18, 8 April 2019 (EDT)

Might not want to use the rape scene as a screenshot either for the M4.--AgentGumby (talk) 14:50, 8 April 2019 (EDT)

The S&W auto has the double-stack bulge in a couple shots, which means it can't be a 639. That said, it also appears to have wraparound grips in other shots, that plus the blued hammer suggest this might actually be a later-model 5906. StanTheMan (talk) 22:25, 8 April 2019 (EDT)

Many thanks! I had correct the wrong ID. Pyramid Silent (talk) 15:23, 9 April 2019 (EDT)

IDs

How did you make the IDs on the Springfield Armory Mil-Spec M1911A1 and the Lee-Speed Sporter? --Funkychinaman (talk) 15:28, 9 April 2019 (EDT)

The Springfield was credited in the movie (as “.45 Springfield”), The Lee-Enfiled can be ID by its typical mag.

Pyramid Silent (talk) 15:59, 9 April 2019 (EDT)

And is it true that cheap Russian shotguns of the 20s are so popular in the USA? --Slon95 (talk) 16:37, 9 April 2019 (EDT)

Visual evidence trumps dialogue. Is there any way you can visually confirm that it's a Sprinfield? And I don't see an external magazine on the Lee-Enfield. --Funkychinaman (talk) 16:02, 9 April 2019 (EDT)

I had uploaded a few more screenshots: Pyramid Silent (talk) 16:29, 9 April 2019 (EDT)

The Lee-Enfield mag is circled in red.

Hey Pyramid Silent; some of the IDs are still suspect; it is best if you don't rush to add the links on the other gun pages right now. Some of the problems FCM and Slon95 pointed out and currently still exist are:

• "FN Trombone" identification uncertain
• M1911 variant identification uncertain
• Unlikelihood of Frolov shotgun being in an American film production
• Lee-Enfield identification uncertain

Regarding the "Frolov", I asked some of the guys on Gun wiki; they said that the cocking knob on the gun resembles a Springfield M1903 much more than a Mosin. It might be a customized sporterized Springfield or some variation thereof. --Wuzh (talk) 13:22, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

And Browning Auto-5 is obviously not it. The triggerguard resembles the Winchester 1200/1300, and the gun itself is obviously not young. I don't even know what it is, this is some kind of rare gun. --Slon95 (talk) 13:49, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

The much better quality (although to heavy for uploading) image of this gun. Pyramid Silent (talk) 14:07, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

I don't think this is a shotgun at all. It's got a scope, and you can see a small magazine. Maybe a Browning BAR Safari? --Funkychinaman (talk) 16:42, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

Your close, it’s a Remington Model 742.--AgentGumby (talk) 18:37, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

The Lee-Enfield mag, which proving the ID: Pyramid Silent (talk) 14:07, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

The Lee-Enfield mag is circled in red.

The Lee-Enfield mag can be seen from the another angle.

The long gun seen in Vernon Slone's memories may be a .410 Webley & Scott bolt action shotgun. --Greg-Z (talk) 15:26, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

Many thanks! Now, this page seems to be absolutely completed. Pyramid Silent (talk) 16:04, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

But it is not exactly. --Slon95 (talk) 16:15, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

Why? Pyramid Silent (talk) 16:18, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

The "FN Trombone" still appears to be uncertain. --Wuzh (talk) 17:14, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

The receiver looks too large and angular for Trombone (and O My Goodness who would go on deer hunt using .22 rifle?!) I have a gut feeling about something like Remington Model 8 or Wichnester Model 1907 but it's a very vague guess. Greg-Z (talk) 12:41, 18 April 2019 (EDT)

I had added this information (I guess, it's better to leave the both variants, note the unproved ID). Pyramid Silent (talk) 13:30, 18 April 2019 (EDT)

Nothing, since they are another museum exhibits, and they are fed from detachable boxes, and the gun has an extended tube magazine. Probably something like a Remington 1100 with an rifle sights and extended tube, although the receiver is strangely bent. --Slon95 (talk) 15:26, 18 April 2019 (EDT)

Rem 1100 seems too streamlined for the screen gun. Maybe it would be better to keep this gun as unidentified that to make doubtful guesses. Greg-Z (talk) 15:50, 18 April 2019 (EDT)

The muzzle attachment on the rifle

I want ask about the "Howa M1500," not exactly on the issue of IDs but on the muzzle attachment; what is this thing? --Wuzh (talk) 13:28, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

I guess, it's a flash suppressor. Pyramid Silent (talk) 13:33, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

Muzzle break. No point to a flash suppressor on a hunting rifle.--Mandolin (talk) 16:56, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

I think Sako 85 or Tikka T3. -- KINKI'boy (talk) 22:32, 11 April 2019 (JST)

Core aims Donald's rifle.