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Improvised Suicide Bomb Vest

As a true testament to how completely fanatical and insane The Outcasts are in their misguided quest for revenge, the Outcasts' rusher units are composed of suicide bombers. Their vest has an improvised explosive device comprised of a large gas canister, with a pipebomb and C4 brick attached to it, all affixed to the bomber with a DIY harness, where they will proceed to run at their enemies with reckless abandon to set off their payload. Higher-level members will have napalm inside the can, which in addition to dealing massive damage, will also burn a small area around the blast zone. The bomb itself is unsable, however, and repeatedly shooting at the bomber's chest will cause it to prematurely explode, which will kill him and seriously damage or kill anyone unlucky enough to be near him upon death (including the player).

An Outcast suicide bomber. According to flavor text, these individuals are infected with Green Poison and are close to dying. Wishing to make the biggest difference possible, they've decided to strap a bomb to their chest and take as many of their "oppressors" to the grave with them.

Discussion

Easter Egg

Anyone else catch the NOA (stand-in for NASA) Admin Building easter egg?

Interesting that a government space organization is so interesting in silencing a flat earther...

--Fidget (talk) 16:04, 22 March 2019 (EDT)

It's a conspiracy! Black helicopters, aliens at Area 51, second gunman on the Grassy Knoll! gets muzzled from behind and hauled off by masked men' Spartan198 (talk) 01:20, 30 March 2020 (EDT)

Mystery frankengun auto turret

So one of the factions (I think it was the true sons, but honestly the factions aren’t as easily distinguishable as they were in the first game) has a unit that deploys big sentry guns. The rear of the gun might be a PKM (oddly bronze colored, and with clearly oversized cartridges on its belt), and I have know idea what the barrel and shroud are supposed to be from. Can anyone help identify this? I’ll try to get some better reference pics later, but it’s a bit challenging for obvious reasons.

--Fidget (talk) 02:18, 23 March 2019 (EDT)

Looks like you're right about the PKM bit, and as for the front, if I had to hazard a guess, I'd say it was just a stretched-out AR-15 barrel/gas tube/handguard group. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 09:38, 23 March 2019 (EDT)

Here is another I found when one of those Black Tusk Boston Dynamics type things glitched out in the beta. It kinda looks like an M107 barrel with a GM6 Lynx-ish forend.

Mk 46 or Mk 48?

So the "Mk 46" in game has the buttstock of a Mk48. But the stampings on the gun say "5.56". So should I enter this in under Mk 46 and note that it incorrectly uses the Mk 48 buttstock, or should I enter it in under Mk 48 and say it incorrectly is chambered in 5.56x45mm?

It looks more like a Mk48 to me.

--Fidget (talk) 22:09, 27 March 2019 (EDT)

It’s a Mark 46. That stock is not from the 48, it’s from the Product Improvement Program (“PIP”) for the M249 SAW. The Mark 48 usually has the original clubfoot stock or the para stock, but since they are all interchangeable, it’s not really a good way to ID it. --AgentGumby (talk) 22:45, 27 March 2019 (EDT)

For the record, that stock is from the Rapid Fielding Initiative, not the Product Improvement Program. The Product Improvement Program came in 1985 (before Picatinny rails were even a thing) and replaced the original original M249 tube stock with a plastic stock (or the clubfoot stock). The Rapid Fielding Initiative in 2002 then replaced it with the M4-style collapsible stock. For some reason, everybody thinks that the PIP was a really recent thing, and conflated it with the RFI. --Wuzh (talk) 00:15, 28 March 2019 (EDT)

Are we sure it's a 46 and not an M249 Para? Paras dressed up as Mk 46s aren't uncommon in video games. Spartan198 (talk) 13:02, 13 April 2019 (EDT)

Another thing to note about telling the Mk 46 and Mk 48 apart is that the Mk 48 has, AFAIK, never been issued with a para-length barrel. Spartan198 (talk) 13:08, 13 April 2019 (EDT)

Spartan is right, that's actually an M249 as well. Made to look like an MK46 or something like that. It has the very old style gas regulator plug. New M249s offered by FN don't have it, neither does the MK46. The MK48 has a gas regulator knob but it looks different. The base of the weapon is clearly the same for all 3 variants. I think all 3 versions of the M249 should be combined into one. It's not different that the 3 versions of the Mk16 for example. bozitojugg3rn4ut (talk) 13:56, 13 April 2019 (EDT)

CMMG Banshee

I think this version is more similar to the Banshee 300 Mk57 at 5,7x28mm FN, as the mag is clearly larger. If I'm right, this is the first media appearance.

A preview of the CMMG Banshee.

--Pustelga7 (talk) , 23 April 2020

It turns into an 9x19mm hi-cap Glock mag if you put an extended mag upgrade on it though. Noire (talk) 10:09, 23 April 2020 (EDT)

List both, as its the Mk57 by default and turns into the 9mm version with extended magazines.--AgentGumby (talk) 10:39, 23 April 2020 (EDT)

Never mind. Checked again and it doesn't use Glock mags. Its apparently worse. Noire (talk) 09:11, 25 April 2020 (EDT)

AK-74

Since this just appears to be the base AKM loaded with a 5.45 magazine, should it be listed as something like the WASR-2 with a slant brake? I don't think it really matches the proper 74 ID close enough.--AgentGumby (talk) 20:20, 22 February 2022 (EST)

Why it should be ID-ed as a WASR? Isn't the AK74 receiver basically the same as the AKM therefore making its recycling as an AK74 appropriate? The only thing is they also reused the AK47 barrel, front sight and gas block from the base AKM-ish weapon. --Nanomat (talk) 22:14, 22 February 2022 (EST)

Well, that's my point. It's clearly just the base AKM with the plum and tactical furniture added, and a 5.45 magazine used. I don't think it should be ID'd as the 74, because as stated, it doesn't even have any of the correct barrel assembly. The WASR-2 just comes to mind since it's something already on here, there are probably other stamped AKM-type rifles in 5.45 that I'm not familiar with. This just doesn't seem in-line with how we tend to ID AK variants now.--AgentGumby (talk) 23:14, 22 February 2022 (EST)

The WASR doesn't have rounded AK dimples above the magazine, so it can't really be used as a reference. Now, just like the other "AKM" is an AKM/AK-47 hybrid, this gun should basically be listed as a hybrid of the AK-74 as the AK-47, as it has the front sight and gas block of an AK-47 (and not an AKM's gas block as the page currently states). I previously added the relevant info in the first Division page, which features the same AK models. Speaking the gas block, early versions of the AK-74 did have an AKM-style gas block, as seen here and in some Soviet films screencapped on IMFDB. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 06:01, 23 February 2022 (EST)

UIC MOD2 magazine

Is that a glitch or some kind of aftermarket base plate? Spartan198 (talk) 17:13, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Looks like a flat bottom plate to make it easier to shoot while rested on a bench or prone.--AgentGumby (talk) 04:47, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

M249 Para

I think we should use barrel length, not buttstock, as the identifying feature here and merge it with the M249 entry. Spartan198 (talk) 03:12, 18 August 2023 (UTC)