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Talk:Burn Notice
Missing Guns
Hey! So, after watching several replays, I've been noticing many many missing guns. You guys seem to get guns from the episodes here and there, but miss ones in between. When getting screenshots, please watch the whole episode because I'm sure you'll see some missing ones.
New Guns (Updated)
Please help ID these guns. --Ben41 02:31, 15 December 2011 (CST)
- Michael's rifle looks a lot like a Colt ACR (Advanced Combat Rifle), very distinctive handguard. Rebecca's handgun is a Smith & Wesson Bodyguard. On another note, looks like the previous episode used the Beretta 92FS Centurion. - IGemini, 19:21, 17 December 2011 (EST)
Rock Island Commander?
This looks like some sort compact 1911. I initially thought it was a Kimber Pro Carry II but upon closer examination the slide serrations on that don't match. --cool-breeze 07:39, 15 December 2011 (CST)
- What barrel length is this gun? It sort of looks between a Commander and Officer, like the Rock Island Armoury Commander. --commando552 08:08, 15 December 2011 (CST)
- You know what I think it might be a Rock Island Commander comparing the two. The serrations are correct, the sights are too and the hammer is as well. --cool-breeze 08:25, 15 December 2011 (CST)
The Liberian Warlord Kamba uses some SIG variant in Season 5 Episode 15 – Necessary Evil
- You mean this?
Looks like a heavily customized P226 with a manual safety and flash compensator. Maybe a 220? I dunno, the markings make me unsure. Definitely an interesting creature. - IGemini 19:26, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
It has some, interesting Sig like contours, specifically the rear of the slide and frame, look a lot like the Sig P220/226 but the rest of the pistol doesnt really resemble it at all. There doesnt appear to be a slide release in the usual "Sig" spot, and the take down lever is completely different. As well the hammer seems to be milled as a DAO type hammer and the frame has a full length dust cover. It looks like it has a ramp rear sight and some sort of manual slide safety or decocker. Not that i have the foggiest clue what it might be, but for some reason i dont think its any type of Sig. -MissySummers-
- The gun it looks most like to me is a Walther P88 Compact. It isn't one of those though, but maybe it is a gun based on it? --commando552 05:42, 14 December 2011 (CST)
- the take down lever, slide mounted safety and slide release are all in the right spots for a P88, but the slide is completely different. Maybe its an airsoft gun thats based on the P88? we know those get changed around all the time. -MissySummers-
- It took some searching, but I found it. Is is an unmodified TiSAS (Trabzon Silah Sanayi AŞ) Zigana Sport, a Turkish made pistol which I believe originates from a Walther P88 clone. It is imported into the US as the American Tactical FS9, shown below:
- Apparently it is quite popular with IPSC shooters due to a light trigger pull, built in compensator and cooling vents. --commando552 14:54, 14 December 2011 (CST)
- Ahhhh very cool! thanks for the research Commando! it was bothering me haha, i spent the better part of the day looking for that damn thing, trying to figure out what it was. Its an interesting pistol thats for sure. -MissySummers-
Not sure about this sniper rifle in Episode 16. --Ben41 02:02, 2 December 2011 (CST)
I'd say that is a Sako TRG? Likely the 7.62mm TRG-22. Also, Fiona uses the Grendel SRT to cover Mike's meeting with Anson while Jesse acts as the spotter. --Devang.home47 22:48, 2 December 2011 (CST)
I believe you're right with the SAKO. Thanks. __Ben41 01:24, 3 December 2011 (CST)
USA Commercial
In the USA Network commercial entitled "What Grenade?" promoting both Burn Notice and White Collar, Fiona (Gabrielle Anwar) is shown to have several weapons in her purse.
Production and Behind the Scenes Images
Additional Images
Lol Wut?
Relocated this from the main page. It made even less sense before I cleaned up the spelling and grammar errors: "I know that in the new Burn Notice episode "Question & Answer," a thug uses a Colt Diamondback but I don't know how to add it. Will someone do it for me? It is "Double Down" look it up." Whatever, dood. --DOHC Holiday 04:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Formatting
This page's formatting was really atrocious, so I did quite a bit of editing. I really don't want to see that happen again, y'all.
Anyway, I have the Pilot episode of this show on my laptop now, so I will screencap it in the near future, and maybe buy some more episodes on iTunes for the other guns. -MT2008 03:38, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Yea...I'm doing some work too and your kinda screwing up my practice here. No hard feelings, but i got it and you take it from here. (The Winchester)
- Oh, OK. Well, this page's formatting has actually been pretty bad for a while now. Anyway, for practice, I would recommend hitting the "Edit" button on other people's pages to study how formatting was done. I'm also in the habit of recycling my own code when it comes to inserting gun entries on a page (i.e. if I see a movie with an MP5A3, the first thing I do is go to a movie page I know has MP5A3s in correct format, cut and paste all of the text for the gun entry, paste it in my page, and edit the text as necessary to conform to my new page).
- yea, i've been doing that, but i think i'm starting to get better at it. Thanks for the advice though. -Winchester
- Hey what was the revolver used by the security guy to kill Chandler in the latest episode? It looks like a Smith and Wesson Model 29 but I'm not sure. MW
- Well, i have the 1st season on dvd and i could do it in the future. i have a few movies that im still committed to, so it might be a while. The Winchester
A molotov cocktail isn't a firearm, so I've removed it. --ManiacallyChallenged 08:57, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
I just finished watching the premier episode of Season 3 on USA and noted usage of an M4A1 and an M203 on the page. The 203 definitely wasn't a Cobray, but since it wasn't actually used, I figure it could most likely have been an airsoft version. Spartan198
WOWWWEEEE. I just did a ton of work on this. I made a bunch of errors because it took me like four hours, but I think I fixed them all. I apologize for the relatively low quality of my screen caps, but they are DVR downloads from TV, and not very high quality TV. Does anybody have the HD version? Or the DVD? --ManiacallyChallenged 00:51, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
- One more thing, there is a sniper rifle used by Fiona in one episode, that I can not put my finger on. Here is the image.
--ManiacallyChallenged 00:52, 8 June 2009 (UTC) Looks to me like a Browning Automatic Rifle, that civilian one that's not actually the B.A.R.-protoAuthor
- I do in fact have HD versions of many episodes on my back-up external drive and have meaning to upload for a while, but right now, I'm juggling a whole bunch of different things (including IMFDB pages). At some point, I plan to do a huge re-vamp on this page (it was supposed to be BEFORE Season 3 started, but obviously, that didn't pan out for me). If you want a preview, take a look at some of the shots I've been meaning to upload but haven't gotten around to yet:
- Also, a few other things: Please mention the episode beneath the screenshot, and name the characters/actors who use guns if you can. I use IMDB to make sure I have my info correct. For instance, the hijacker in Episode 2.07 (the guy with the nickel Jericho) is named Gerard and is played by Max Martini (same dude who's on "The Unit"). -MT2008
he played MSG. Mack Gerhardt in the Unit. he was also in season 2 or 3 of 24 (if sum1 has any screenshots, i believe he had a MP5.
- To whoever did the Steyr Scout, how'd you identify it as such, and the BAR maybe we should rephrase it to somethign like "not to be confused the the m1918 Browning Automatic Rifle" instead of calling it a civie version since they are two different firearms.-RedJedRevolver
- I'm beginning to think that the Steyr scout, isn't. The Barrel is not fluted and maybe a little thick, the bolt handle is different, and im doubting the reciever, and the stock is not a Steyr's. -RedJedRevolver
- I looked at it again, you're right. I mostly guessed on that anyway. --ManiacallyChallenged 06:03, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Whoever put the gun that Michael used in the pilot episode to get rid of the drug dealer as a Jericho/Baby Eagle needs to get their eyes checked. That's definetly not a Jericho. I want to say it's a smith and wesson but don't know which model. Here's the image I got
It is either a S&W 4006 or S&W 5906 because it exhibits the double stack bulge. I'm leaning towards the 5906 because of the hooked trigger guard.96.32.185.136 22:34, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm removing the ones that are under the Jericho section that are wrong. --Gunkatas 00:07, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm a bit late to the party but that looks like a S&W 645 to me because of the exposed screws. --cool-breeze 12:31, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
It's great to know I'm not seeing things :) I've always thought that gun was either a 645 or an earlier (I think) version of the 659 with small iron sights. But I just kind of deferred to all the other guys' experience on this one and kept quiet. - TrueBeliever19
Fiona's assault rifle
I was looking for the model of Fiona's souped up assault rifle, that she stole from the gun-smuggler (after Michael poured gunpowder all over his face).
It can also be seen in Season 2 Ep 14 @ 40:00 - it kind of looks like an SG-500, but I don't think it is. Anyone got any ideas?
they assault rifle Fiona got from Seymour (arms dealer) was an M4A1 carbine with what appeared to be an Ampoint (possibly ACOG) anpeq-2 and some type of verticle grip. Dirtdiver6421 02:20, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Sam's Rifle
In the season 3 finale, Sam uses an assault rifle with a scope to get the kidnappers onto a boat and help free Fiona. Since Bruce Campbell is left handed, he covers up most of the rifle when he's shown firing. It looks like an AR derivative, either an M16A4 or SPR. I don't think it's an SR-25. They took the episode down from Hulu so I can't get a screenshot of it.--Gunkatas 07:43, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Someone is dissing Bruce Campbell firing the MP5 PDW without using the sights. I just saw a show on Discovery channel about the Iran hostage crisis and it interviewed two former SAS operatives. Its standard for them to point shoot small arms with intense practice and instinct in close quarters. Afterall Sam is a former SEAL. --~~
Mark 23
thanks for the compliment to whoever took the screencaps I posted on HKpro.com forums for the Mk23 sub heading. Cheers!
sig 226
i am pretty sure the black sig in the first picture being held by the michael character is a 228, the barrel looks short and in a later episode he mentions the 228, it seems to be his prefered weapon, and i'm not sure but i think the third one is as well,
Errors
2 Errors of note: The Steyr is a Remington 700. The stock isn't even close, the barrel doesn't have the twist and the scout rail isn't present. It's not a ProHunter either.
The Winchester 1300's aren't either. Note the lack of v-shaped reciever. They're Remington 870 Marine Magnum's.
I don't think they're even real. They look more like airsoft. The barrels don't seem to be connected to the magazine tube, there doesn't seem to be a safety or a pump release in the places you'd find them on a 1300 or 870. also we cannot see the ejection port which helps matters a great deal. I'm going to watch the episode again when i get home and look again. I also don't remembering them actually firing but there being an effect in its place.[I would ad my signature but I haven't been able to access my account as of late, Mercer]
Accuracy International
During the episode "Double Booked" Michael apparently assembles an "AI AWC" but it has a standard Remington 700 bolt handle (flat and knurled), I think it appears to be a Remington 700 with AICS which does have a folding option, anyone prove me wrong? Update: I changed the name to reflect what this is.
Desert Eagle
Added Desert Eagle to handgun list. Season 3 Episode 4 "Fearless Leader". --Gunkatas 17:44, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Beretta Tomcat
In Season 3 Episode 8 "Friends Like These". Fiona uses a Beretta Tomcat on Natalie. Can anyone get a screenshot of this.
SIG not Glock
This is not a Glock, look at the grip above Michael's hand. It's a Sig, though it looks too big for his 228. Maybe a 226? This gun is a SIG non-gun. --Ben41 06:04, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Its a P226
HK USP compact 45
I deleted the bit about Fiona's walther ppk because it said that it was the gun Michael used to shoot Strickler. That is wrong Mike uses Fiona's HK USP compact and that is what she leaves at his house.
on the topic of HK USPs what kind is Seymour (arms dealer) seen using when he pulls it on Mike. the barrel looks to small to be a .45 but it appeared to be under HK USP .45
Fiona's M1
At the end of the episode when Sam is seen disposing of the weapons it is not a stretch to assume he kept some of them for their use, explaining where Fiona got the rifle.
The M-1A is a Springfield Armory weapon designed for civilian use, because of this the rifle is much more likely to be the M-1A since it is a Civvie version. It is NOT an EBR (Enhanced Battle Rifle)the barrel is too long to be the EBR, which was designed for DMR as well as CQB. It is more likely the EMR (Enhanced Marksman Rifle) which has a longer barrel.
- The "Family Business" M-1A appears to be a SOPMOD conversion (note the slightly different stock and a lack of a front iron sight) instead of the EMR/EBR Fiona uses in "Turn and Burn."
Yes, there is a implied subplot, that they only disposed of some excess weapons, such as norincos, and some assault rifles and assorted small arms that came in huge crates. --Сергей Титов
Fiona's rifle
What is the rifle Fiona uses to shoot Carla with?
I think it's the BAR she used earlier in the series.
Doesn't BAR stand for : Browning AUTOMATIC Rifle? The rifle in the image clearly has a bolt handle. Rob the Fiend it's a different BAR. Not the ww2 rifle
I know it's not the WW2 rifle, read this: http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/family.asp?webflag_=002B&catalog_=B
- You are right. Definitely NOT the BAR Safari, being that rifle is a semiautomatic and she does have a bolt action visible in the pic. MoviePropMaster2008 17:05, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
S3Ep13
This is probably the best yet! Man Burn Notice is awesome. --ManiacallyChallenged
AWM Season 3 Episode 11
Toward the end Fiona pulls out what I believe is an Arctic Warfare Magnum.
Yes she does. she pulls it our of a suitcase in a hotel room that was going to be to cover Michael during his meeting with Gilroy. It has a sideways folding stock too. I don't remember, I think it might have been suppressed too. --Сергей Титов 17:35, Sep. 30 2011
Great show
I love this show. And Fiona is my ultimate dream girl. A knockout who you can take to the gunstore and range! But I wouldn't be able to use the old excuse of buying her a particular firearm knowing that she would never use it and I would. Not only would she use it she's probably break your arm if you tried to take it! What a woman.--Jcordell 01:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
- Heh, right on. "Honey! I got you a S&W in .44! The recoil might be a bit much for you though, I'll just use it inste-*CRACK* AUUUUGHHGGGG!" --ManiacallyChallenged
ha ha that funny . but id rather hang with michael . i like him . maybe pick up a few things . fight moves , learn to speak russian , and some super cool spy stuff. im happy its on tonight. simmons 8492 definitely agree!! --Сергей Титов
CZ 75BD
In season 3 episode 6 "the hunter" Michael and his new friend John Beck use a CZ 75BD pistol.
BNS4
Damn I love this show. Season 4 started out with a BANG!!!!! humanzie3
damn right brother , i love this show so much . simmons 8492
Khan's Gun
what was kahn using in s4e2? im thinking fn fnp
That would be a Walther p99AS in what could be a 9mm or a 40S&W. Spades of Columbia
- Nope. Smith & Wesson SW99, with a titanium or hard-chromed slide. --Clutch 18:20, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
you are absolutely correct on that Sir, tip of the hat to ya, good eye on the front slide surrations. Spades of Columbia
What are these
these guns look really dressed up
Heckler and Koch SL8 with suppressors
-Double Agent M
Whats with the bent up areas under the scopes
- Just a somewhat unconventional frame design.
StanTheMan 19:49, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
So...what was the Gun that Josh pulled on the crooked invester in the most recent episode? It was Sam's buddy that Michael dissarmed at one point.Spades of Columbia
Screenies
I'm thinking a shiny Sig sauer p22xr?
looks like a non gun
Wow, fricking huge screens. It is neither a SIG or a non gun, but a Taurus PT940. Probably the same one used in the other bank episode.
Sorry for the huge screenies. From what i can see on taurus website they dont make the pt940 stainless with rail. Sure it could be aftermarket or the black could have been removed. But still the pt940 with rail has 2 notches in the rail and from what i can tell this gun dosnt. I am no taurus fan neither a taurus knower on the other hand.
It could be the 9mm version of the PT940. I think it is called the model 911 maybe? I know that the Taurus 9mm version comes with rails. GaBoy45 12:20, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
- It's a PT911 or 940 (more likely the 911). And yes, Taurus does make those pistols with rails now. Their web site may not be updated, but I just saw a PT940 with a rail frame for sale at a gun show last weekend. -MT2008 17:03, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Original CZ 75...
In Season 3 Episode 14, the Polish agent at the lighthouse pulls what I believe is an original CZ 75 (pre B). I don't know how to upload screen caps, but if someone else wants to confirm this, it's at 4:41 in the episode. - WATYF
I'm sure it's a pre B, rounded trigger guard is a dead giveaway.
--Noe 12:16, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
S04E06
Does anyone know what concealed carry pistol Buddy is carrying at roughly 8 min? I can't take screenies on this computer, they just turn out all black :<.
S04E09
Cohen or what the dudes name was, was holding a H&K P30 on Michael
Breaking Up By Season?
The show has been renewed for 2 more seasons, so it may be time to break up this page by season. The only thing is that many of the same guns are used in every season. Thoughts? --Ben41 07:20, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
I personally dont see the point of breaking it up into seasons. Most entries are marked with season and episode so if your wondering about a specific one most web browsers have a built in search function. On Opera and Firefox to open the search box just use Ctrl+F. Noe
ATPIAL/AN PEQ15?
After Michael and Fiona get out of Seymours mansion after Seymour attacks them is the "laser targeting assist" she has on her rifle an ATPIAL/AN PEQ15? --ShootoutWithDave 15:21, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
No one got an answer? --ShootoutWithDave 17:28, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Remington 870
wrong....I don't know what it is. --AdAstra2009 14:51, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
How is that not a Remington 870? --ShootoutWithDave 15:22, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
A few things have always bugged me about those guns. First, the barrel doesn't seem to connect to the magazine tube the right way. Second the safety and slide release seem to be missing. Third there is no clear view of the right side of the weapon so we cannot see the ejection port. And lastly, we never see them actually fire, the "water shell" is a practical effect, not a blank round. I would bet money they're airsoft. Mercer 16:16, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Something is off about them. The trigger guard doesn't look right either, the inside of them is too squared. Often times S&W 3000 shotguns are misidentified as 870s. But they aren't 3000s either. As Mercer said probably airsoft.--Predator20 19:37, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
- - I could be wrong, but I've a pretty strong feeling that those are actually Ithaca 37s, or at least, fakes based off the Ithaca 37, anyway. The trigger guard looks awful close and if they're Ithacas/Ithaca-based, it would also explain the lack of side ejectors. StanTheMan 19:43, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
- - Pin placement is wrong for Ithaca, it mostly resembles 870 but is just not right. And it's not that the ejection port doesn't exist, it's that it's not seen. The problem that makes my say airsoft is that the weapon isn't seen to function in any way aside from the practical effect for the "water round." No blank fire or weapon cycling. Mercer 20:29, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
- They look like nickel plated Winchester 1300 defenders with pistol grips and standard mag tubes. And I don't think they're airsoft, if you look down the barrel of one of them in the case, you see residue from firing blanks. - Gunmaster45
- Winchester 1300 Defs? Bah, why didn't I think of that? StanTheMan 16:55, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
- - Not a 1300 either. 1300s have a single pin, and the safety button would be visible as would the slide release. And the "residue" could be just about anything, and I think its more likely to be from lighting. Mercer 21:29, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
Robert Patrick
Robert Patrick uses the USP with the silver slide in the most recent episode. -- K 12:12, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Jessie's Rifle
Anyone know what Jessie was using when he "shot" Micheal in the finale? --humanzie3
It's listed on here as a Colt Model 933 but I don't think it is. If you look at the rail and the front sights it looks like a HK416 to me. --cool-breeze 17:02, 4 July 2011 (CDT)
Not a Remington 700?
Is this not a Remington 700? --Ben41 04:30, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
I don't think this is correct, at least based on the picture of the 700PSS provided. Look at the bolt handle, not what on a factory Remington 700. And the stock is too glossy and smooth looking to be a tactical rifle
H&K P30 or HK45? I think this gun is misidentified.
This looks more like a Heckler and Koch P30 than an HK45. They are very similar looking except the external safety on the HK45, the bottom of the magazine is different, and the HK45 is larger.
http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/4/41/BurnS4_309.jpg/500px-BurnS4_309.jpg
http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/c/c8/HH45.jpg/400px-HH45.jpg
http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/1/12/HK-P30.jpg/350px-HK-P30.jpg
(I tried to post the pictures but couldn't get it to work). Notice the difference in the bottom of the magazine. The HK45 is also a full-size, the P30 is a compact. Notice the slight difference in the length of the slide. The gun in his hand looks more like a compact, and the slide looks shorter than the HK45. I'm new, so I'm not going to change anything myself. Just a suggestion.
SnakeDoc
Its definately A P30.. you can tell by the trigger guard
New sidearm for Weston in Season 4?
The attached picture from Burn Notice may show Weston carrying an HK P30 9mm. (Again, I can't figure how to embed the picture).
http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/113/1135169/burn-notice-20101117073255292_640w.jpg
It is a publicity still from the latest episode (aired in late November). If I recall the episode correctly, he drew the gun on his own (didn't recover it from someone else) and used it to shoot a fake chemical weapon cannister filled with tear gas and pesticide. It looks like an H&K to me ... too small to be an HK45, not square enough to be a USP Compact. I'm pretty sure it isn't Weston's usual Sig, though I am unsure if it represents a permanent change in sidearm of choice.
Hope not, SIG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HK, like is way better.
Its definatetly a P30. Personally i think a new gun would be good the P228 is outdated and is used by everybody in most T.V shows so a new gun like the P30 would be good.. OR stay with Sig and get the P229 E2
honestiy , i like the P228 with him . its been with him since the pilot so i say , if it aint broke dont fix it simmons 8492
Its his signature weapon, seriously signature weapons cant be changed.
- Yep, it's official: Michael Weston has switched to the H&K P30 as his new sidearm. I was a bit disappointed, as I hoped he would just get a newer SIG (i.e. the P229R, SP2022, or P250), but P30 it is. I figured it was inevitable at some point he was gonna switch sidearms. Actually, I'm surprised he had the 228 for as long as he did, considering the assortment of new(er) pistols that have been used by other characters on the show (like the Walther PPS, FN Five-Seven USG, and Springfield XD, among others). I would have figured it's a rule in Hollywood that the protagonist always has to have the best gun. -MT2008 04:15, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
XD was only briefly shown in one episode, I believe 5-7 was too. Look at Sam, conealing a beretta the whole series, Fiona likes her ppk and michael had a SIG. Now I have to see a HK.......Sigh. A PPS may be a better choice for a new gun for Fiona. And the 92 is a beast, maybe something SIG sized for Sam would be appropriate, hes also a former seal so it would make sense.
- Signature weapons can change occasionally. Jack Bauer switched from a Sig to an H&K USP Compact between Seasons 2 and 3 of 24 (he used the USPc for the remaining seasons). I don't mind the change. I actually like the P30 quite a bit personally, so its good to see it getting a bit more publicity. -- SnakeDoc
I hate HK, I mean, a rail that only takes their special accessories, instead of a standard rail everybody else uses, since there you know, too good for a streamlight or what not, and they got a mag release on the trigger guard instead of the grip. The sig is compact, accurate, reliable, and has the ergos right.
-k9870
- The P30 has a standard rail.
-looks like the 228 is back in the finale ;)
Agreed the Sig is back for the finale show down... I agree i'd love to see him make the practical and logical step to a Sig P229R DAK... because in a adreneline situation who wants to remember long pull short pull---ST0NEFIELD
- Me.----JazzBlackBelt-- 22:26, 24 June 2011 (CDT)
-Can we get some pictures of him using a P30 because I can't find any
- Who keeps deleting the line about Michael Westen changing his sidearm to a P30? I added it once, it got deleted, I added it again, and it is deleted again. I am going to add it again (along with some pics), and I ask that whoever keeps deleting it stops. Thanks.----JazzBlackBelt-- 13:05, 27 June 2011 (CDT)
He has reverted back to the HK P30 as of the first episode of the fifth season.
Did any other Sig-Sauer fans feel a little sad that Michael Weston left us for HK? --Rebusdi 13:57, 11 July 2011 (CDT)
Yes, me! I was not happy at all. The P228 seemed to fit him so perfectly. I'm not a fan of HKs overpriced stuff. --cool-breeze 16:44, 11 July 2011 (CDT)
Don't get me wrong, the P30 feels GREAT in the hand, but its too damn expensive. Same with the USP, feels okay, but is way too overpriced. SIG-Sauer is still expensive, but you get what you pay for. BTW, if you didn't know I am a DIE-HARD SIG-Sauer fan (except for the new E2 or whatever, hate that) and I wish they would have given him a P229R or even a SIG-Pro, idc which model of SIG-Pro. Both in DA/SA of course. I could rant on SOOO much longer, but I have to stop myself.----JazzBlackBelt-- 19:54, 11 July 2011 (CDT)
Isn't the E2 now pretty much what the standard for what a P226 looks like now?--cool-breeze 03:25, 12 July 2011 (CDT)
- Yes, and it makes me SOOOO mad that they didn't at least keep the standard grips availiable for people that prefer them. Plus, they changed the slide of the P229 to where it looks just like a P228R.----JazzBlackBelt-- 13:03, 12 July 2011 (CDT)
It's only like when they made all of the pistols with a rail. I hate the railed frame it looks so ugly. I'd prefer them to offer at least a "classic" version with original grips and no rail. --cool-breeze 14:14, 12 July 2011 (CDT)
- I like both frames, and I think they should have kept all three as an option. You could choose unrailed or railed, then choose the grips (classic P226, newer style, or E2).----JazzBlackBelt-- 11:08, 13 July 2011 (CDT)
- Or... You can just buy an older version. :I - Mr. Wolf 17:20, 29 July 2011 (CDT)
Sounds good. Let's contact SIG Sauer with our idea lol. --cool-breeze 06:36, 14 July 2011 (CDT)
I thought it was a nice change to see him with a new sidearm. Its like when they changed weapons in Stargate from the MP5 to the P90
Finally the SIG has been completely phased out in Season 5 Episode 5 'Square One'. Fiona melts it with thermite(?). --Devang.home47 21:53, 23 July 2011 (CDT)
That wasn't his P228. That was a P226 that was used to try and set Michael up. --cool-breeze 15:51, 29 July 2011 (CDT)
I can't be too sure, but it seems from the recent episodes that Michael is back with the Sig. I haven't been able to pause the show on any clear, not blurry shots. --Rebusdi 08:19, 17 August 2011 (CDT)
In the last episode there was an overhead shot that when I saw it I thought to myself that it looked like a SIG. Hopefully he's seen sense and dropped the HK and gone back to the SIG. --cool-breeze 08:30, 17 August 2011 (CDT)
- I'm not sure about the last episodes, but in the preview for the next one he is with the HK. Hopefully he will simply alternate between them.----JazzBlackBelt-- 10:53, 17 August 2011 (CDT)
I still don't understand where a burnt spy would get a HK P30 from, or why he would get one when his P228 was fine. --cool-breeze 11:40, 17 August 2011 (CDT)
- Forgive my ignorance of all things HK pistols, but why would it be difficult for him to get a P30? Or why would it be more difficult than having a Sig? --Rebusdi 10:41, 19 August 2011 (CDT)
Because the P30 is a very new gun and HK guns are ridiculously expensive. The P228 has been around for years. Was there any explanation where he got the P30 from? I'm sure he got the P228 from a bad guy. --cool-breeze 11:22, 19 August 2011 (CDT)
- The P30 first showed up as Cole's sidearm in S4's Center of the Storm. Cole threw Mike's SIG into an electrified puddle while having him as a hostage so he lost his P228 at that point. By the end of the episode they were working together so it's not unreasonable that Cole gave Mike his P30 for ruining his SIG. The P30 was then used by Mike several episodes later. I'm both an H&K and a SIG fan, but I'm not a fan of the P30. --IGemini 19:40 , 22 August 2011 (UTC)
Ahhh, I forgot about that episode. I don't mind the HK USP or the HK .45 but I don't like the P30 either. --cool-breeze 15:18, 22 August 2011 (CDT)
Pistol in S04E15 "Brotherly Love"
Did anybody notice the gun that Michael gave to Sam in the loft, the one that he said that Fiona had modified to fire 3-round bursts? It only showed it for a second, so I didn't get a good lock at it, and I was just wondering if anybody here did and recognized it --THizzle80
HK VP70, I think. He probably meant Fiona altered it to fire burst without the stock attached.--Mr-Jigsaw 07:31, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Yup, that does indeed look like what I saw. Never even heard of that pistol before, and I consider myself somewhat of a gun nut, so it's cool to learn about a new gun. It's kind of neat how they build the selector switch into the stock mount. Thanks for the info! --THizzle80
Do you think there is any reason they chose to modify a VP70 rather than just use a 93R or G18? It just seemed odd to me that they used a relatively obscure pistol for this role. --Rebusdi 07:26, 23 July 2011 (CDT)
- VP70 is hardly obscure, role in Aliens + first polymer handgun evar. Evil Tim 07:53, 23 July 2011 (CDT)
- But it was best known for its role as Leon S. Kennedy's sidearm in Resident Evil 2. Thanks in no small part that it was called by its real name, aww, the good old days. - Mr. Wolf 17:47, 23 July 2011 (CDT)
- I suppose you are right, it isn't that obscure to those that frequent this website. It is one of the things that makes me love this show so much; their accuracy, attention to detail and choice of equipment make it a different cut to most junk on TV these days. It is still a bit of a surprise that they chose to modify, unless this is a wink to Fi's associates and maybe Seymore, the arms dealer? --Rebusdi 17:31, 26 July 2011 (CDT)
I just did a bit of research on the internet and found out that the VP70M had a selector built into the detachable stock that allowed semi-auto or three round burst. So my question about why they didn't choose a burst pistol now looks a little dumb. Thanks for the comments though. --Rebusdi 18:53, 27 July 2011 (CDT)
Mike's Holster
Anyone have any clue what holster Mike uses? You don't get a lot of good looks at it, but you get a fairly good one in Season 1's 'Unpaid Debts', when he's walking away from the screen after they kidnap the brother of the pimp. Acora 09:32, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
It changes. Ive seen an iwb, a Small of back serpa, mexican carry, etc.
Jesse's Rifle
Okay, dont attack me for this but i think in season 4's guilty as charged Jesse is using a HK416. Look at the gas black, Hk front sight and the lower side rails. With all the othe Hk love in series 4 it wouldnt be too abnormal to have a 416 turn up --Captain Snikt 14:10, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
How does one go about submitting alterations? In the Episode "Good Soldier" (S2E9) a pistol is listed here as being a S&W 459. I looked a the episode on DVD and it looks like a Kimber SIS. The forward and rear slide serrations are very distinctive.
639
Seth Peterson uses a 639 as opposed to a 4006. The front sight is fixed and the trigger guard is round without serrations, features of a second generation, and it also has a single stack frame.
Beretta Cougar?
I just noticed this in 3x13 Partners in Crime. It's the gun Michael hands Nate when he asks to keep an eye on mom though it doesn't get used in the episode. Initially I thought it was a Px4, but after brightening it looks like a Beretta Cougar.
Picture (brightened for clarity):
- IGemini - 18:40, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
Yep, It's a Beretta Cougar. - Mr. Wolf 22:16, 23 June 2011 (CDT)
The Fall of Sam Axe?
So, as to the new 'movie', are we making a separate page for it, or are we just adding it all to this one? Personally, I think we should make a new page, since this one is getting kinda long. Acora 02:53, 18 April 2011 (CDT)
Yes, since it is a separate movie, it will get a separate page. --Ben41 03:05, 18 April 2011 (CDT)
- Okay. It's up on Hulu currently, if anyone wants to start getting screenshots. I'll go back and compile a list of weapons in a while. Acora 16:03, 18 April 2011 (CDT)
MP5 (S4 Finale)
I am not entirely sure, but I believe that the MP5s used by Vaughn's men in the Season 4 finale (Last Stand) are of the A5 variant, based on the 3-position; collapsible stock, and the HK "3 round burst" trigger group. This can be clearly seen when Michael, Fiona, and Jesse are at the elevator shaft, talking with Vaughn; Michael's MP5 is slung, with a somewhat clear shot of the fire selector. I can upload a screenshot if necessary. --Progamer7100 11:23, 8 May 2011 (CDT)
Season 5
Just watched the seasons premiere, no new guns to report all have previously been covered on the page. Wondering if the new series Suits on the same network contains any guns and deserves a page. I'm gonna watch it asap anyways (: Noe 15:35, 24 June 2011 (CDT)
Episode 6 has a new one to add: close to the beginning Michael takes a rifle from a sniper that is in the H&K G3 family. It seems to lack the wide selector ring of the G3, most likely an HK91. I'll have a screencap up sometime today. - IGemini 04:04 UTC, 1 August 2011
- Episode 7 had some nice toys today. Almost certain there's a bonafide G3 in this episode, you get a clear shot of the selector markings when Sam is setting one up. Jesse was also using something new today, some things make me think either a Ruger SR-556 or an HK416. I'll need a better look. - IGemini 02:06 UTC, 4 August 2011
Spoilers: The murder weapon in Season Five
I'll try not to spoil anything for anyone who hasn't seen the newest episodes, but I'd like to ask something, since I'm not extremely familiar with SIG pistols, or atleast, I'm not too good at identifying them when I only get a quick look at them. Still, in one of the recent episodes, Mike heads to the CIA headquarters for a debriefing, and finds Spoilers! his contact, dead on the floor with a SIG pistol beside him. Mike melts this gun down using thermite in the next episode. Now, like I said, I'm not too good at identifying SIG pistols, but to me, it looks like a P226 or possibly a P220. Can anyone verify this and possibly grab a decent screencap? Acora 11:58, 26 July 2011 (CDT)
- It was a P226. -MT2008 12:22, 26 July 2011 (CDT)
- Thanks for the clarification. Now, can someone get a screencap of it?
- Um, if it means a lot to you to have a screencap of the P226 from that episode, then you have no right to demand that anyone else provide it. -MT2008 17:31, 29 July 2011 (CDT)
Season Breaks 2011
The series is currently in Season 5, so it may be time to break up this page by season. The only thing is that many of the same guns are used in every season. Thoughts? --Ben41 04:25, 10 August 2011 (CDT)
I personally dont see the point of breaking it up into seasons. Most entries are marked with season and episode so if your wondering about a specific one most web browsers have a built in search function. On Opera and Firefox to open the search box just use Ctrl+F. Noe
- I find it funny how you two had this exact conversation, word for word, around this time last year. Back on topic, I really don't think it is necessary, and I personally hate shows that are broken up by season, but if you feel the need to, go ahead. Expect LOTS AND LOTS of repeats though.----JazzBlackBelt-- 10:29, 10 August 2011 (CDT)
DONT BREAK THE PAGE!!! WE WANT ONE PAGE ONLY FOR BURN NOTICEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! -- Сергей Титов
- OK, I personally don't care what the anonymous users say. This page is too long and should have been split up a long time ago (same with Chuck). And to emphasize something I've said before: Overlap of guns is NOT a good reason to avoid breaking up the page. Sometimes, there are many variations on a similar platform (i.e. while the M4 appears in every season of the show, the latest season has featured M4s with different types of stocks and rail integration systems). Plus, if many different characters use the gun across several seasons, it's nice to document its use by all of them (rather than have a huge paragraph running through everyone who's used this gun or that gun). -MT2008 22:34, 13 December 2011 (CST)
Kahr K9
In "Friends like These" Sam has a silver Kahr K9 in his ankle holster as a backup. I believe he also shoots it over the counter at Bennett Tash during a shootout in a locksmith store. Fiona pulls a Silver Kahr K9 out of her purse in the USA commercial "What Grenade?" here's the commercial http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0WNJx7Ys2Y Thanks Editors -- Сергей Титов
Red dot on the Ramo RT37
I'm looking at the photo and I'm getting more and more certain it's a C-More sight. I can't exactly see the "slope" on the rear of the lens frame, but the lines are pretty clear. You can even see the laser housing sticking out of the rearmost part of the top. --Seriously Mike 15:09, 3 December 2011 (CST)
Russian Sniper in S5E16
looks like an SV98 to me. I have screen caps but I can't seem to post them...