Talk:Squad

Changes to the Page

Hi guys, I find that it's a bit odd for the RPK, RPK-74 and RPK-74M to be dumped under one entry, and for the AK-74 and AK-74M (and as a result, AKS-74 and AKS-74N) to be lumped under one entry, so I will be splitting them up. Additionally, for consistency's sake, I will also split up the M4A1 and M4 entries, and while I'm at it, also update the other articles over the next few days. I'll go around uploading images eventually as well when I have time, cheers! While I'm at it, I'll also try to add a bit more details and trivia to the weapons such as their available kits, configurations and magazine capacities (and probably the number of magazines too. -OngYingGao (talk) 09:29, 27 February 2018 (EST)

I think the M4 and M4A1 could stay under the same entry, though I think the M4 is only used by the militia; the US Army only uses the M4A1 if I'm not mistaken.--AgentGumby (talk) 13:26, 27 February 2018 (EST)

Nope, with the newest update, the M4 has been added to the US Army as well, to add to the already confusing time paradox that the Russians and US Army exist in. -OngYingGao (talk) 03:39, 28 February 2018 (EST)

Idle state images?

What happened to the idle images? Many of the weapons on this page now only have aiming down sight and reload images. They were here a few revisions ago. Not sure why are they being removed. --Wuzh (talk) 07:24, 2 March 2018 (EST)

Hi, which images do you happen to refer to? Previously, when I came to add the pictures there were only ADS and reload images too, apart from a few engine renders that are unrepresentative of the game. However, I do have a pile of pictures lying around for idles if you want them. In fact, I do not recall touching any idle images as well, because if I did i would be replacing existing images in the database, not uploading new ones. I quite like idle shots as well to be honest. --OngYingGao (talk) 07:51, 2 March 2018 (EST)

Example:

They were on the page on this version, but you removed them in this edit. You also removed an M4A1 idle image in this edit.

To be honest I have exaggerated the "many weapons" part, but I'm kinda curious (and confused) on why are these being removed.--Wuzh (talk) 08:26, 2 March 2018 (EST)

Ah, you were talking about the ones I've added earlier and removed; about those, it was because i'm afraid of making the page way too long since the earlier iteration of the page (before i came in with my image dumps) was a lot shorter and didn't have idles, but if you like them i will gladly add them all back. --OngYingGao (talk) 08:39, 2 March 2018 (EST)

I would say add them in. It feels kinda wrong (eh) to begin with the sight picture.--Wuzh (talk) 08:54, 2 March 2018 (EST)

We seems to still be missing a few idle state images for a few of the pistols, specifically MP-443 Grach, Beretta M9A1, Tokarev TT-33, and Makarov PM. --Wuzh (talk) 09:15, 2 May 2018 (EDT)

All pistols added in. --OngYingGao (talk) 04:08, 14 July 2018 (EDT)

US heavy anti-tank?

So I notice that the US is mentioned as having having heavy and light anti-tank classes, but only the light anti-tank weapon is mentioned. Does the US actually have a heavy anti-tank class? What does it have? Apologies if you simply haven't added it yet.--Mandolin (talk) 20:37, 7 March 2018 (EST)

No, you are right, the US is the only faction without a HAT as of now. However, renders of the FG-148 Javelin and AT-4 have been released from the Sep 16 and Feb 18 recaps respectively. It's my blunder, and thanks a ton for alerting me :P --OngYingGao (talk) 08:29, 8 March 2018 (EST)

Latest Update

I've mostly reverted Agent's changes as I've found the following:

1. Inconsistency in use of terms, some use "player", some use "player character", some use "soldier"/"militiaman"/"militia fighter" and so on so forth with varying capitalisation, so I reverted it for consistency's sake.
2. Spelling error of "safety" in one instance
3. Italics are inconsistent since some are removed
4. "In first person" was removed in one instance
5. I've also removed the full stops because it feels iffy for simple clauses to have full stops like complete sentences, and I also try to minimise full stop usage in captions
6. The ACOG on the M110 was but an alpha build placeholder so it'll not be an important trivia by full release
7. Tense is also pretty inconsistent, some with present continuous and some with past tense, so i'll try to standardise that too. --OngYingGao (talk)

1. I kept "player" in some instances such as "the player prepares to exert dominance over a group of targets" when it could ostensibly refer to the guy behind the keyboard; however, the in-game "player character" is the guy doing stuff like reloading weapons, the "player" is not actually doing this.
2. Yeah that was a minor error, not sure how that happened.
3. I kind of feel like there are a lot of italics on this page, which isn't really the norm but I guess there's no rule that says they can't be used this way either.
4. I think it makes the page seem a little boring or redundant when "in first person" is used on just about every idle image. It makes sense to use that phrase whenever a third-person or loadout image is also present, though.
5. Again, full stops are kinda the norm for image captions but if you say so.
6. Also again, a lot of pages usually mention trivia from earlier game builds, I don't see the harm in writing this down anyway. Especially in this day in age when every game has tons of early access footage on YouTube, it helps clarify things.
7. I don't really pay a whole lot of attention to that, for better or worse, but correct as you see fit.--AgentGumby (talk) 13:28, 8 April 2018 (EDT)

"ILAW AT4-CS HEAT"

Does anyone know what the hell ILAW is supposed to be? Infantry Light Anti-tank Weapon? Does the BAF actually use that designation? And do they use the HEAT rocket? I heard they used the High Penetration rocket instead. --OngYingGao (talk) 10:27, 9 July 2018 (EDT)

According to Military Today, ILAW stands for Interim Light Anti-tank Weapon, though the full designation is L2A1 ILAW instead of the mixed name seen here. --Wuzh (talk) 10:32, 9 July 2018 (EDT)

Is there a way to discern between the AT4-CS and the standard AT4 visually? And do you know if the -CS variant is the one the Brits use? --OngYingGao (talk) 10:37, 9 July 2018 (EDT)

Caption Dumps

Hey guys, as some things seemed to have been removed, I'll leave them here like some sort of archive so I can hopefully add it back in when the time comes.

M203A1 segment

Loading a set of suitably patriotic smoke grenades - there's red...

...and blue.

M67 segment

Throwing the M67 - note the spoon flying off; this detail is also present on the F-1.

Slightly unrelated note, can you get a screencap of the GP25 in indirect fire use? That's a neat feature I didn't know about until seeing it in this game.--AgentGumby (talk) 23:37, 13 July 2018 (EDT)

As you wish! The indirect fire ability is a feature that died and did not carry onwards to the GP-30, although the GP-25 is still by far most common in the military. --OngYingGao (talk) 23:12, 14 July 2018 (EDT)

GP-25 Kostyor segment

Aiming the GP-25, zeroed to 300m on indirect fire mode.

IED segment

Pissing off the regimental quartermaster sergeant with a prank on two weapons crates on the top of the watch tower.

I guess there isn't much we can do about this, Sir.