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=Additional Images=
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[[File:S&W 59 two tone.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Smith & Wesson 59 with two-tone finish and Pachmayr grips - 9x19mm]]
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[[File:S&W 59 nickel.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Smith & Wesson 59, nickel plated - 9x19mm]]
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==Airsoft Variants==
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[[File:DaisyM-59.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Daisy SoftAir Model 59]]
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=Discussion=
 
If someone could point out the distinguishing features between the model 59 and the second generation 459 it would be appreciated. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
 
If someone could point out the distinguishing features between the model 59 and the second generation 459 it would be appreciated. -[[User:Anonymous|Anonymous]]
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:Adjustable rear sights, that's all.  I've held them side by side before and that's the ONLY difference I could see.  If there were any internal or metallurgical differences, I could not determine that by a brief outward inspection. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]
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::Old question, but there is a visible difference apart from the sights. On the 59 the double stack frame step is behind the slide stop pivot pin, whereas on the 459 the step is ahead of it. This is the more reliable way to differentiate them as you could get fixed sight on the 459 and 659.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:22, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
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:The first-generation Model 59 would sometimes crack at that point in the slide. By beefing up the lower receiver the problem was basically eliminated though it could still happen occasionally even after the change was implemented. It really wasn't much of an issue with the first generation. I have read sources that state it would require thousands of rounds, often thousands of hot loads - such as the old NATO 9mm loads for sub-guns, fired before the lower frame would crack (if then), but it happened enough that Smith made the change. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 18:49, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 18:49, 9 March 2023

Additional Images

Smith & Wesson 59 with two-tone finish and Pachmayr grips - 9x19mm
Smith & Wesson 59, nickel plated - 9x19mm

Airsoft Variants

Daisy SoftAir Model 59

Discussion

If someone could point out the distinguishing features between the model 59 and the second generation 459 it would be appreciated. -Anonymous

Adjustable rear sights, that's all. I've held them side by side before and that's the ONLY difference I could see. If there were any internal or metallurgical differences, I could not determine that by a brief outward inspection. MoviePropMaster2008
Old question, but there is a visible difference apart from the sights. On the 59 the double stack frame step is behind the slide stop pivot pin, whereas on the 459 the step is ahead of it. This is the more reliable way to differentiate them as you could get fixed sight on the 459 and 659. --commando552 (talk) 08:22, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
The first-generation Model 59 would sometimes crack at that point in the slide. By beefing up the lower receiver the problem was basically eliminated though it could still happen occasionally even after the change was implemented. It really wasn't much of an issue with the first generation. I have read sources that state it would require thousands of rounds, often thousands of hot loads - such as the old NATO 9mm loads for sub-guns, fired before the lower frame would crack (if then), but it happened enough that Smith made the change. --Jcordell (talk) 18:49, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

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