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I'm with all who have a big sigh for these movies. I watch them because I am a complete nerd for Resident Evil, but the series is so far off the bender its like somebody having 5 sex changes, each time trying to label themselves as someone else (not trying to be discriminatory to the transgender community). Since RE Apocalypse, there has been nothing tied to the source material, just referencing characters by name and having their skin (like Safeway brand Mountain Dew as Mountain Breeze, same style drink, but only in looks). Now, 5 movies later (and yes, I do know the property rights issue), they have essentialy nothing for these characters to be built upon. Why should I care who Jill Valentine is? She didnt do anything in the movies? Why should I care about Ada Wong and Leon Kennedy, they never appeared until now? You cant just throw in characters and enemies from the game (retard choice of Paul Anderson to throw in the Las Plagas last movie, as it had NOTHING TO DO WITH THE T VIRUS) and claim it to be resident evil. The truth is, he has a mad love for his wife (like Tim Burton does for Johnny Depp and Helena Bona Carter) and because of it cannot have any of the movies not centralize around her and make her the ultimate badass (Best example last movie when Claire is fighting the axe man, of which shouldnt be in the movie in the first place, blasts him with a shotgun and downs him, but takes Alice to shoot him another time and then kill him). Please REBOOT THIS SERIES!!!--[[User:Valant|A single bullet can change history]] ([[User talk:Valant|talk]]) 18:22, 1 October 2012 (EDT)
 
I'm with all who have a big sigh for these movies. I watch them because I am a complete nerd for Resident Evil, but the series is so far off the bender its like somebody having 5 sex changes, each time trying to label themselves as someone else (not trying to be discriminatory to the transgender community). Since RE Apocalypse, there has been nothing tied to the source material, just referencing characters by name and having their skin (like Safeway brand Mountain Dew as Mountain Breeze, same style drink, but only in looks). Now, 5 movies later (and yes, I do know the property rights issue), they have essentialy nothing for these characters to be built upon. Why should I care who Jill Valentine is? She didnt do anything in the movies? Why should I care about Ada Wong and Leon Kennedy, they never appeared until now? You cant just throw in characters and enemies from the game (retard choice of Paul Anderson to throw in the Las Plagas last movie, as it had NOTHING TO DO WITH THE T VIRUS) and claim it to be resident evil. The truth is, he has a mad love for his wife (like Tim Burton does for Johnny Depp and Helena Bona Carter) and because of it cannot have any of the movies not centralize around her and make her the ultimate badass (Best example last movie when Claire is fighting the axe man, of which shouldnt be in the movie in the first place, blasts him with a shotgun and downs him, but takes Alice to shoot him another time and then kill him). Please REBOOT THIS SERIES!!!--[[User:Valant|A single bullet can change history]] ([[User talk:Valant|talk]]) 18:22, 1 October 2012 (EDT)
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Just do what I do guys, watch them as something they're not supposed to be, like...I watched Retribution as if it was supposed to be a comedy, and I actually enjoyed it a lot more, and honestly it was kinda fun to see Alice get her ass kicked. [[User:Kornflakes89|Kornflakes89]] ([[User talk:Kornflakes89|talk]]) 19:28, 20 January 2013 (EST)
  
 
== Possibility on Ada's pistol ==
 
== Possibility on Ada's pistol ==

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Need Help with these firearms

Please help ID the following firearms --Ben41 (talk) 13:59, 26 December 2012 (EST)

Leon's pistol on the left.

Looks like a 1911 Excalibur01 (talk) 12:18, 28 December 2012 (EST)

Possibly a KPV, but need confirmation.

I doubt you'd be able to mount a KPV on the handlebars of a motorcycle. Maybe an M240C? --Funkychinaman (talk) 12:57, 28 December 2012 (EST) It looked like an M60 Excalibur01 (talk) 13:07, 28 December 2012 (EST)

Moved from main page

http://www.moviesonline.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/resident-evil-retribution-poster-590x358.jpg Alice has a Beretta 9FS in the movie


Until some actual footage from the film is officially released, these screenshots will be put here. --Ben41 04:57, 30 September 2011 (CDT)

Promotional poster showing Alice with the KRISS Vector. Notice the CGI casings in wrong caliber, clearly longer than Vector's .45ACP

TDI Vector

The lead actress, Milla Jovovich, uploaded a group of "behind-the-scenes" videos of the film including a training session with a TDI Vector. It features an extended magazine, no foregrip and no stock.

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Additional vids

More vids from Milla. One dual-wielding Vectors, one of Jill Valentine (Sienna Miller) training with an MP7 and one of Michelle Rodriguez with an MP5.

http://tweetreel.com/?s93ex http://tweetreel.com/?ag173 http://tweetreel.com/?62emj

So it appears earlier reports that Sienna Guillory (not Miller ;) ) wouldn't be returning in Retribution were incorrect. Spartan198 21:53, 19 January 2012 (CST)

Michelle Rodriguez? Didn't she get zombified, then die again in the first movie? Also, you'd think that after using the MP5K and MP5A2 in previous movies, she'd already know how to shoot. On the other hand, it's probably more of a getting re-acquainted with the weapon than rely learning how to operate it, it's been a few years. --Mandolin 21:55, 19 January 2012 (CST)


Additional Screenshots

Ada Wong (Li Bingbing) appears to pull a Glock 17 with a rail mounted white light.
Rain Ocampo uses the TDI Vector against a giant Licker.
Rain with the M4.
Leon Kennedy and Alice with their weapons

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Seriously? Another one? *sighs*

I give up on Hollywood's ability to listen to what the fans really wanted from a true Resident Evil film... --ThatoneguyJosh 06:16, 19 October 2011 (CDT)

Can't possibly be worse than Dead Aim. Unless they also decide to have a gender-swapped Tyrant with electric tits and organic high heels. Evil Tim 06:20, 19 October 2011 (CDT)
...Er yeah, We'd rather NOT think about that X___X But in all honestly, you are better off owning Resident Evil Degeneration and it's upcoming sequel, Resident Evil Damnation. Instead of owning some aborted fanfiction movie trilogy created by some no-talent hack director who can't make a good movie worth shit. --ThatoneguyJosh 06:59, 19 October 2011 (CDT)
I think I'm the only one who really likes these movies (this coming from a big fan of the games), except for the the second movie. :\ - Mr. Wolf 17:32, 19 October 2011 (CDT)

You could go a lot worse with videogame movies than this series (see Alone in the Dark, Postal, etc.). --Ben41 17:43, 19 October 2011 (CDT)

You mean everything made by Uwe Boll and the 80's. XD - Mr. Wolf 17:48, 19 October 2011 (CDT)
OF COURSE!--PistolJunkie 21:01, 19 October 2011 (CDT)
At least the Postal film fares better than Uwe Boll's other works because the game it's based on has NO PLOT whatsoever. The game is just an opportunity to see what would happen if you decided one day that you are gonna go postal on everyone and everything around you, which is why that game has a bunch of mindless tongue-in-cheek and toilet humor, murderous rampaging, blood and body parts, sexual innuendo, animal abuse, and pissing off the parents of kids who owned the game, minorities, ethnic groups, religious groups and those extremist activist groups who happened to take notice of the game. So in the case of the Postal film, I am a little more forgiving. Same deal with the Hitman movie and the Prince of Persia film. Every other videogame movie after or before those ones, suck. --ThatoneguyJosh 21:29, 19 October 2011 (CDT)
In your humble opinion. - Mr. Wolf 00:51, 20 October 2011 (CDT)


It's more than my opinion, everybody from the hardcore fans of the games to the professional film critics bash these films and give them negative reviews. But it's more than just the negative backlash and criticism, it's really about this issue: Why can't the studios actually listen to the negative backlash and criticism that these films get, and instead of viewing it as an attack against them or their character, use it as a learning tool. So that when they go in to make the next film, they will have learned and remembered what was said about the previous film, and not make the same mistakes again? If Universal Studios could do that with The Incredible Hulk after Hulk sucked ass so hard, and Warner Brothers with their Batman reboot trilogy after Joel Schumacher's horrible Batman & Robin film, and Sony Pictures with their upcoming Spider-Man reboot film after Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 3 didn't leave the last trilogy on a positive note, then why can't the studios that distribute the Resident Evil films do the same thing? And as a matter of fact, why can't other film studios that have tried their hands at videogame film adaptations follow that example as well? --ThatoneguyJosh 17:17, 20 October 2011 (CDT)

So I shouldn't like the movies because you and other people say so... - Mr. Wolf 18:59, 20 October 2011 (CDT)
No. If people like these movies, then ok, I won't hold that against them or you. I'm not trying to take away your liking of the Resident Evil movies, I'm just stating how these movies could have been better than what the audience got if the studios listened to the criticism that the more hardcore game fans and the film critics gave to the first film, and worked with it when they made the next few films. But since you like the Resident Evil films for what they are, then I'm not holding that against you. Many people out there like these films, I just happen to be one of the many who don't. But in closing, I was just stating how the movies could have been different than what the audience got with my last closing paragraph. --ThatoneguyJosh 19:31, 20 October 2011 (CDT)
I understand. :) I personally look at the movies story and such as an alternate version of the games, and that's how I treat them, as an alternate version of Resident Evil. - Mr. Wolf 18:50, 21 October 2011 (CDT)
Hey! Dead Aim wasn't that bad, and hell, the guy looked feminine enough before he turned into a Tyrant, and that moment doesn't even come close to the butchering of the series RE5, and the movies (though the first was decent, felt like a side story to the games and should've stayed that way) have done. Whether people like this movie or not, the characters they're putting in it don't make any fucking sense at all, Leon for example, in a newspaper thing in the second movie, he's pretty much confirmed dead, though i guess retcons happen in games and movies all the time, but how the fuck are they going to get Rain and One back by cloning after they nuked the entire city, destroying pretty much everything (which would've included their bodies, or what's left of them) it's just like this Alex Wesker crap they pulled in RE5, just another last minute add in to keep beating an already long dead horse who just wants it to end.Kornflakes89 18:01, 7 March 2012 (CST)

The movies are apparently successful enough to generate sequel after sequel, so clearly more people like them than the OP would like to think. Reviewers are tools and their opinions mean piss to most people with half a brain. And most game fans only want the movies to be identical rehashings of the games, which isn't very appealing to me even as what one would call a "hardcore Resident Evil fan". If I wanted to relive RE2, I'd go back and play RE2. A full-length multi-million dollar movie that rehashes the story and events RE2 already told isn't something I'd pay $8.50 to see since I already have RE2. As far as dead characters returning as clones in Retribution, none of us have seen the movie and very little of the plot has been released, so it's a bit premature to say it doesn't make sense since we don't know the circumstances behind how or why they've been cloned. Don't knock it until you've seen it. Spartan198 05:06, 15 June 2012 (CDT)

While i do agree, i won't bash the movie until i've seen it, i still think putting Leon in doesn't make sense, since as i said before, there's a newspaper clipping in the second movie that says pretty clearly that he's dead, unless there were two people with the same name but were entirely separate people, it doesn't make much sense to put him in if one of the previous movies say he's dead.Kornflakes89 04:24, 14 August 2012 (CDT)

I'm with all who have a big sigh for these movies. I watch them because I am a complete nerd for Resident Evil, but the series is so far off the bender its like somebody having 5 sex changes, each time trying to label themselves as someone else (not trying to be discriminatory to the transgender community). Since RE Apocalypse, there has been nothing tied to the source material, just referencing characters by name and having their skin (like Safeway brand Mountain Dew as Mountain Breeze, same style drink, but only in looks). Now, 5 movies later (and yes, I do know the property rights issue), they have essentialy nothing for these characters to be built upon. Why should I care who Jill Valentine is? She didnt do anything in the movies? Why should I care about Ada Wong and Leon Kennedy, they never appeared until now? You cant just throw in characters and enemies from the game (retard choice of Paul Anderson to throw in the Las Plagas last movie, as it had NOTHING TO DO WITH THE T VIRUS) and claim it to be resident evil. The truth is, he has a mad love for his wife (like Tim Burton does for Johnny Depp and Helena Bona Carter) and because of it cannot have any of the movies not centralize around her and make her the ultimate badass (Best example last movie when Claire is fighting the axe man, of which shouldnt be in the movie in the first place, blasts him with a shotgun and downs him, but takes Alice to shoot him another time and then kill him). Please REBOOT THIS SERIES!!!--A single bullet can change history (talk) 18:22, 1 October 2012 (EDT)

Just do what I do guys, watch them as something they're not supposed to be, like...I watched Retribution as if it was supposed to be a comedy, and I actually enjoyed it a lot more, and honestly it was kinda fun to see Alice get her ass kicked. Kornflakes89 (talk) 19:28, 20 January 2013 (EST)

Possibility on Ada's pistol

I'm not sure but I think Ada's pistol may be a Glock 17 with a tactical entry light but it's too blurry when she draws it (0:59 in the new trailer.) to tell. Can't tell if it's a 3rd or 4th generation either. Possibly a 3rd.

It looks long enough and the shape seems right. Plus she draws it with her left, Ada in the game is a rightie. However, after reviewing the trailer again, Ada might draw this weapon from a holster in the small of her back.

Like I said though, can't be sure. I even watched it in 1080p full screen. --Bad Boy 20:19, 19 January 2012 (CST)

(moved until confirmed)

H&K MP5A5

Rain is seen in the trailer carrying an MP5A5 like the one she trained with in the most recent behind-the-scenes video.

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H&K MP7

Jill Valentine uses an MP7 as her personal weapon whilst under Wesker's control.

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Galil?

In a new screenshot, it looks like James One Shade (Colin Salmon) is holding what appears to be a heavily customized Galil ARM. Not sure though, needs to be verified. Seen on the right. I apologize about the small picture size.

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== New trailer ==


There's a new trailer out. Anyone want to cap it?

Barry Burton

I found an image of Kevin Durand As Barry Burton i cant identify the weapon he's using the image is on resident evil wikia.

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Looks like the same Galil type seen in the movie so far except he has a suppressor attached. Excalibur01 16:23, 27 July 2012 (CDT)

It looks like the revolver he is using is a Smith & Wesson model 629 what do you think? Balin21 16:52 27 July 2012 (CDT)

The rifle looks like the ACE 21, a newer version of the Galil with rails, a different charging handle, and different mag well. Dover500 17:17, 27 July 2012 (CDT)

Behind the scenes documentary

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQfRTBb751g&list=PLCA6405E04E623D9B&index=2&feature=plpp_video This part has some good close-ups of the Red Army zombie weapons and a special two-tone G36C.

And I thought these movies couldn't get anymore stupid. Excalibur01 10:05, 27 August 2012 (CDT)
There was a time I thought the games couldn't get so stupid either, but clearly I was wrong. The movies are just following Capcom's lead. Spartan198 15:32, 27 August 2012 (CDT)
WTF...zombies with guns? I'm really lost for words at this point.--Wildcards 14:11, 27 August 2012 (CDT)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6qdC1e13nI Shows the Umbrella armory.Temp89 09:36, 27 August 2012 (CDT)

And I thought they couldn't steal anymore scenes from the game and rip them off Excalibur01 10:05, 27 August 2012 (CDT)
Not to mention they did it very badly...I laughed when I saw Alice running slowly with her knife to Ada.--Wildcards 14:28, 27 August 2012 (CDT)
At least when they ripped off a scene in the last movie, they 2 of the 3 original characters in it. Wesker throws his shades at Chris, who catches it and does the whole matrix bullet dodge with him. They just wanted to give Alice-fu more scenes of "badassery". And yeah the movie clip. The action was not like in RE4 where they did the slow-mo. In here, it's clunky and clumsy Excalibur01 19:20, 27 August 2012 (CDT)


More guns

Leon had a 1911, Luther had a USP. At the beginning of the movie, which is a freaking Dead Island trailer rip off, Alice had 2 P226 maybe. Rain also used a P226 later on Excalibur01 (talk) 12:06, 16 September 2012 (EDT)

Leon had 2 pistols, one in a leg and the other in a shoulder holster. ones was definitely a 1911 with a light attachment of some kind. I'm sure Luther had 2 USP two-tones --BrokenBullet (talk) 16:22, 30 September 2012 (EDT)

Really? I remember in the beginning, Alice had 2 P226s, which she didn't have from the previous movie. Excalibur01 (talk) 10:05, 1 October 2012 (EDT) I've just seen the Blu-ray man, Alice has indeed 2 P226 on the Arcadia in the beginning, plus I've taken a screenshot of her shooting, it seems they've added a CGI casing for the 3D pop out of the screen effect, too bad it's the wrong caliber ahahaha Here's the image, you can upload here too if it's not copyright protected ;-) https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=4591961848454&set=a.2161213241258.2116213.1574394918&type=1&theater (talk)

Yeah man. I saw it yesterday. A few things i didn't get though were: Leon has 2 pistols, yet you only ever see him draw one? Luther has 2 USP two-tones that he uses when presumably when he doesn't have time to reload his G36[coz after the shootout he reloads the G36] but where did he carry them ??? Because as far as i remember he dint have any holsters on his person. Also seen as the Umbrella guys have P226s, I'd assume that Alice took them off dead guys...

Did they HAVE to make the G36 a two tone? Just because it's being used by a black guy? Excalibur01 (talk) 23:59, 1 October 2012 (EDT)


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