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I agree with [[User:MT2008|MT2008]]. Everyone knows that Hollywood (and probably many of the other movie folks in other countries) tend to be rather knee jerk in their left leaning politics. Especially when it comes to firearms. But IMFDB is about firearms in movies,television etc. If we used political beliefs as the criteria most of the actor pages that I've created over the past two years would be gone. The fact of the matter is that MacGyver was on television for many years and firearms were used. Yes in the real world MacGyver would be dead. But then so would James Bond and all of the heroic characters that [[Bruce Willis]] has played over the years. | I agree with [[User:MT2008|MT2008]]. Everyone knows that Hollywood (and probably many of the other movie folks in other countries) tend to be rather knee jerk in their left leaning politics. Especially when it comes to firearms. But IMFDB is about firearms in movies,television etc. If we used political beliefs as the criteria most of the actor pages that I've created over the past two years would be gone. The fact of the matter is that MacGyver was on television for many years and firearms were used. Yes in the real world MacGyver would be dead. But then so would James Bond and all of the heroic characters that [[Bruce Willis]] has played over the years. | ||
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The discussion page is for just that. We need to keep the actual page free of political content. IMFDB is a reference site. Not an extension of the NRA or GOA. And I am a card carrying member of the NRA incidentally. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:12, 8 August 2010 (UTC) | The discussion page is for just that. We need to keep the actual page free of political content. IMFDB is a reference site. Not an extension of the NRA or GOA. And I am a card carrying member of the NRA incidentally. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:12, 8 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
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Politics & IMFDB
May I ask why we are giving a page to one of the most anti gun shows in history?
- Because this is not a political site. The political stance of a movie on gun use do not concern us; indeed, given how anti-gun Hollywood tends to be, this site would probably not exist at all if politics factored in. -MT2008 13:53, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Maybe a disclaimer that we dissaprove of the shows message would be good like was done on the page Redacted.
the show was idioticly anti gun, but
Was there an ongoing overt political message? I didn't watch the show on a regular basis, I thought it was really stupid, but I did watch the series finale and the entire thing with idiot boy MacGyver taking out a bad guy, kicking away the gun but not taking it or throwing it into a lake or something and then having the guy get up and shoot MacGyver's friends was inexcusable in its stupidity. If there was ALWAYS an on going 'message' about how guns were evil, then we 'could' put up a disclaimer, but I don't think it was that obvious to the casual viewer. As per myself, I always thought of it as trying to force the show to come up with weird and nonstandard solutions to problems. Richard Dean Anderson DID use tons of guns later in Stargate SG1 and he used them correctly! (i.e. when he shot bad guys, he shoots to kill). MoviePropMaster2008 16:52, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Richard Dean Anderson
The reason for all the anti-gun BS is Richard Dean Anderson. This jackass is on the board of directors of "Handgun Control, Inc" and insisted after the pilot that his character never use a gun.
Resource
I know that nearly every single person here disagrees with me, but I am "anti gun." That being said, I love this website, and find firearms very interesting. While I thought it was pretty obvious that MacGyver's message was anti gun, that doesn't mean that there shouldn't be a page for this show, or have a "warning." While I know this website is made and kept up by gun lovers, it's useful to people who know very little, or don't like, guns. Ie: people who do research on movies. (Or television, videogames, anime...)
Politics and the movie/television Industry
I agree with MT2008. Everyone knows that Hollywood (and probably many of the other movie folks in other countries) tend to be rather knee jerk in their left leaning politics. Especially when it comes to firearms. But IMFDB is about firearms in movies,television etc. If we used political beliefs as the criteria most of the actor pages that I've created over the past two years would be gone. The fact of the matter is that MacGyver was on television for many years and firearms were used. Yes in the real world MacGyver would be dead. But then so would James Bond and all of the heroic characters that Bruce Willis has played over the years.
- For the record, Bruce Willis is a proud gun owner and gun rights supporder
The discussion page is for just that. We need to keep the actual page free of political content. IMFDB is a reference site. Not an extension of the NRA or GOA. And I am a card carrying member of the NRA incidentally. --Jcordell 03:12, 8 August 2010 (UTC)