Talk:Grand Theft Auto: Vice City

its funny how all the submachine guns and pistols in this game are chrome.

Its the 1980s Man!Back then everything was chromed.Oliveira

They don't make em like that anymore...lol

Haha that is so true mate - I though I was the only one to notice that inaccuracy and get pissed by it. Funny how that also continued to SA, which is set in 1992. BTW, in reality, I highly doubt they make chrome MP5s! Tec-9 14:35, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

The Eagle

Is that really the model used in game?-Oliveira 21:24, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

No, but that's the closest one I could find. -Gunman69 21:38, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Then what is it doing here?-Oliveira 21:42, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I remember the scene that the Desert Eagle was used in, post a screenshot of that. PersonOfInterest

Yeah, that is much better than using the Desert Eagle model in GTA IV.-Oliveira 22:05, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I'll try to find it. Gunman69 22:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I forget who wrote the Desert Eagle section, but they said that the model Lance Vance used was the same model in San Andreas. I have a picture of that, so I'll use that -Gunman69 17:01, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

There was also a golden Desert Eagle.-Oliveira 17:04, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't recall that, but where did you see it? -Gunman69 18:46, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

I think there was a golden Eagle. I think it was used by Diaz to shoot up his video cassete and used by Lance or Tommy to execute Diaz.-Oliveira 19:10, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Let me check on that for you. I know the one Lance use was definitely a standard Eagle, but i'll check the one Diaz used. -Gunman69 19:16, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

No, Diaz uses a standard Eagle as well. -Gunman69 19:22, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Fuck, i gonna check some gameplay videos to see if there are any golden Desert Eagles.-Oliveira 19:24, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Lance used a regular one. Now if i could only find the mission that Diaz shot up his cassete.-Oliveira 19:31, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Diaz used a regular one as well. I remember seing a golden desert eagle in one of the earlier GTAs don't know which one though.-Oliveira 19:37, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

I already checked the gameplay videos. The mission where Diaz shoots the cassette is "Supply and Demand" -Gunman69 21:47, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello Again, I was the one who added the Desert Eagle aswell as other NonGameplay Weapons to other GTA pages.

I have noticed now the Desert Eagle in Vice City is a slightly 'thinner' model and used a 'chrome' texture.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/gtawiki/images/1/16/PhilCassidyGTAVC.jpg Image from Grand Theft Wiki.

- Thomas

Ok, well, thank you, I guess. -Gunman69 23:42, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Clean-up

Hey, just noticed a few missng things and inaccuracies here. Since I'm a complete GTA freak, I'll comment on them. I'm no gun-nut, so please feel free to correct any mistakes. But please gimme a heads up on this section, as I'm watching it and maybe waiting to pounce and flame you, j/k. :D TC. Tec-9 14:38, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Are you german or something?-Oliveira 14:46, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Haha lol no, sorry for the typos. Actually Iraqi - guess that's much worse to be honest :D. Anyway done as much cleaning up as I can, as I gotta go somewhere now. Will hopefully continue tomorrow or whenever I'm free. I added a few more interesting tid-bits, aswell as standardised how each section and the different information is organised. Please anyone feel free to continue my work in the same style. Cheers, and TC all. Tec-9 15:23, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Ithaca 37 Stakeout (Moved from main page)

For those of you who think this is a Serbu Super Shorty, this Ithaca 37 "Stakeout" is the exact same model as the one used in the game: http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5056/l1030201wqe9.jpg

Wow it looks exactly like a Serbu Super Shorty, which isn't even a manufactured weapon anyway. It's a style of customization that can be applied to any pump action shotgun. Usually a Remington, sometimes a Mossberg, no reason it can't be applied to an Ithaca, which is what that picture looks like. An Ithaca that has been "Serbued". The folding vertical grip on the pump is the defining characteristic here. It's a Super Shorty, even if it is an Ithaca.

protip: "no it isn't" is a piss poor argument

rebuttal: I'm pretty sure Rockstar did not go out of their way to include an "Ithaca 37 Stakeout that looks like it was modified". They saw a Serbu Super Shorty in a movie, decided it looked cool, and ran with it without checking any facts. Which would explain both its anachronistic presence and any minor details that would lead you to believe it is an Ithaca

Dongs you are an idiot. I saw everybody complaining about your idiotic Perfect Dark article. You don't know what you're talking about so maybe you should just go away and let the adults handle this.

And just as a kick in your nuts, I'm gonna back up my "no fact check" theory right now. Putting the M4 carbine in games that predate 1995 in setting, giving the AR15 rifles 50 and 60 round magazines, giving M1911A1 pistols 12 and 17 round magazines and calling them "nines", giving bolt and pump action rifles either limitless magazines or one shot magazines, etc. all proof that rockstar doesn't know jack cheese about guns and just sticks things there because they look cool, reality be damned.

Now stop editing my article. -PersonOfInterest

Ok, first off, i'm really not sure who a lot of these comments are directed at. I never wrote "no it isn't". And I have no idea what you mean about Perfect Dark. The only thing I've done is add a link to that website. However, I have contributed A LOT to this article (as well as to all the other Grand Theft Auto articles, even though sometimes I forget to use my screename when editing, lol. You will see when I forget to log in, my user name is 67.232.142.109), and I am free to edit this article in the best means necessary, as is anyone on this website. Maybe you started it, but I must say, you didn't do a very good job.

But, I didn't come here to attack you personally. It is more likely that the people at Rockstar we're researching the 1980s era for this game, saw the Ithaca 37 used in Miami Vice (the same exact model from the website I linked), thought THAT gun was cool, and used it in the game. And I really fail to see how the gun on the page I linked is exactly like the Serbu Super Shorty. Do you see an ejection port anywhere on this gun? NO.

I do agree that often times, Rockstar has made stupid mistakes with weapons, but a lot of the weapons they do put in their games are correct. In this game, the Python, Chrome shotgun, Stubby shotgun, Spas-12, Uzi, Mac-10, MP5, Ruger, Sniper Rifle, M60, and RPG all have real life specifications. There are many others in other games as well. Besides which, real life specifications are irrelevent in this matter. We're talking about how a shotgun "looks" not how it "functions". There is a difference. And as far as how a weapon looks, Rockstar has always been accurate with that (for a video game).

I'd appreciate it if you stop insulting those who are trying to help you see that you are clearly wrong. Maybe you should stop editing the article because you obviously don't know much about guns. -Gunman69 16:45, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I just looked at the page history. THIS IS NOT YOUR ARTICLE. The person who created this article's screename is "Cutaway", not "PersonsofInterest". You only started editing this article yesterday. Nice try, pal, but in the future, don't try to pass off something that's someone elses as your own. -Gunman69 16:58, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

didn't mean the whole article, just this section, waiting on forums discussion before proceeding with further edits (somebody should put up the actual pic of Don Johnson's shotgun if they feel so strongly about this) -PersonOfInterest

Oh, ok then, but it's really not YOUR article, either. Actually, it was Philip Michael Thomas, not Don Johnson, but whatever, that's not the point. If you look on the Miami Vice page, you'll see a link to the same website, and it says "This was the same gun used by Philip Michael Thomas" (or something like that I think). -Gunman69 19:36, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I just checked. The page I linked is the actual Ithaca 37 used in Miami Vice. Actually, give me a minute, and I'll get the screen shot from Vice City of the stubby. You'll see that it has no ejection port on the side and is much longer than the Serbu, proving it is an Ithaca 37 stakeout. -Gunman69 19:38, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Here it is:

Obviously, it doesn't look exactly like an Ithaca 37 (because it is a video game and it's animated, lol), but it's pretty much dead on. The biggest giveaway is that the stubby shotgun is substantially bigger than the Serbu, making it the same size as the Ithaca. -Gunman69 19:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

And if i remember, there is no ejection port.-Oliveira 19:55, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Game strategies in the description?

Although neat and thoughtful is it really necessary to start adding in game suggestions to the descriptions? The page is meant to tell viewers what firearms appear in the game, not how to use certain strategies to your advantage while playing … no? If you want to do that then just put it in the discussion page. --Mauser 08:45, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Who is this directed at? - POI

Uhh... to whichever person added that the Hunter has a chin-mounted Browning M2, they were off the mark. The Apache has an M230 30mm chain gun under its chin, and I'll bet the game designers wanted the more powerful of the two so...yeah.