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:Could it be a Walther PPK .380? Chris_Hun7er 6:46, 13 May 2010 (UTC) | :Could it be a Walther PPK .380? Chris_Hun7er 6:46, 13 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
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::Going by the color of the frame, I would say it's a PA-63. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 17:38, 14 May 2010 (UTC) | ::Going by the color of the frame, I would say it's a PA-63. --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 17:38, 14 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
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| − | + | United Nations operative Neil Shaw ([[Wesley Snipes]]) carries a pistol as his sidearm when he pursues the assassin through the streets of New York. He is seen giving up the weapon when he's confronted by the NYPD. | |
| − | + | [[Image:AOW009.jpg|thumb|none|600px|United Nations operative Neil Shaw ([[Wesley Snipes]]) gives up his pistol.]] | |
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Ok...Im almost positive that pistol marked as p22 is actually a Kahr PM9, based on the round trigger guard and the open gap at the bottom of the magazine well both in which the p22 lacks. [[Spades of Columbia]] | Ok...Im almost positive that pistol marked as p22 is actually a Kahr PM9, based on the round trigger guard and the open gap at the bottom of the magazine well both in which the p22 lacks. [[Spades of Columbia]] | ||
| − | + | Using the logic of this movie being made in 2000 then it can't be a PM9 either seeing as they were not introduced until the 2002 shot show. I am thinking it is a Kel Tec P11 based on the 2nd screen cap. The grip of the gun does not have the Kahr logo and the shape of the grip is off. It is, however, similar to the P11. --[[User:Ram229|Ram229]] 20:18, 2 November 2011 (CDT) | |
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| + | [[Intratec_CAT_Series_of_Pistols|Intratec CAT-9]]? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 08:50, 8 February 2012 (CST) | ||
| + | [[image:Intratec_Cat_9.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Intratec CAT-9 - 9x19mm]] | ||
==Confusing Ending== | ==Confusing Ending== | ||
I don't get the ending, why are some of the Chinese assassins are still active, like the guy with the Beretta 93R??? | I don't get the ending, why are some of the Chinese assassins are still active, like the guy with the Beretta 93R??? | ||
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| + | == Beretta 93R== | ||
| + | Where in the second screenshot is there a slide mounted safety? I don't see one, seems like a genuine 93R to me. | ||
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| + | :I'm not sure it's a genuine 93R. You'll notice that the safety seems to be more the style of Taurus pistols, and it also has a Target rear sight. You can also faintly see the slide markings, and they seem consistent with a Taurus. It looks to me like it might actually be a [[Taurus PT99]] mocked up as a Beretta 93R. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 17:24, 17 November 2013 (EST) | ||
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| + | == Glock Supressor == | ||
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| + | Are that square Glock supressor real, or was it a stylistic choice for the movie? I have seen square suppressors in other movies and Tv shows, but have never known if they genuinely exist. Thanks --[[User:Rebusdi|Rebusdi]] 05:14, 6 October 2011 (CDT) | ||
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| + | :All suppressors that you see in movies are fake, regardless of whether they are based on real suppressors or not. The common practice amongst movie armorers with suppressors is to take a piece of rebar (or whatever is available), bore a hole through it, and then add an attachment that screws into the gun's internal barrel threading (which is necessary in order to put in the blank adapter). This is also why you routinely see actors attaching suppressors to guns that do not have externally threaded barrels. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 09:34, 8 February 2012 (CST) | ||
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| + | == Heckler & Koch MP5A3 == | ||
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| + | Are you sure that the MP5 in below screenshot is the version with a Surefire 628 dedicated forend weaponlight? Based by the one screenshot, I would say it's the version with the original “slimline” forearm. Thing is I don’t really see a flashlight and the forearm looks pretty straight to me -- [[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] ([[User talk:PeeWee055|talk]]) 05:28, 18 November 2013 (EST) | ||
| + | [[Image:HKmp5A3.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 9x19mm with Surefire 628 dedicated forend weaponlight and safe-semi-two round burst trigger group]] | ||
| + | [[Image:H&KMP5A3slimforearm.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with original "slimline" forearm - 9x19mm]] | ||
| + | [[Image:AOW011.jpg|thumb|none|601px|NYPD ESU officers are armed with the [[Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] when confronting Shaw on the street.]] | ||
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| + | == Final battle last shot == | ||
| + | When Shaw forces Bly to shoot the floor in the final confrontation what does explode on Bly's face? Is it the gun breaking, maybe parts of the hammer or something? Or is it just pieces of the stone floor slab? Is either of the cases realistic? Hastily pressing the tip of the suppressor on the floor is not a very good seal and bits of the floor slab wouldn't fly straight up. [[User:Estenwall|Estenwall]] ([[User talk:Estenwall|talk]]) 08:30, 13 July 2014 (EDT) | ||
| + | :I always thought it was the slide of the pistol flying off. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 12:18, 13 July 2014 (EDT) | ||
Revision as of 16:18, 13 July 2014
Need ID of this suppressed pistol possibly a Makarov or Beretta?
A female assassin is seen with a suppressed pistol when confronting Julia Fang (Marie Matiko) in the hospital.
- Could it be a Walther PPK .380? Chris_Hun7er 6:46, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
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- Going by the color of the frame, I would say it's a PA-63. --funkychinaman 17:38, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
- Going by the color of the frame, I would say it's a PA-63. --funkychinaman 17:38, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Unknown pistol (Still not identified)
United Nations operative Neil Shaw (Wesley Snipes) carries a pistol as his sidearm when he pursues the assassin through the streets of New York. He is seen giving up the weapon when he's confronted by the NYPD.
wasn't this movie made before Walther made the PPS?
- I believe you're correct. From what I've read, the PPS was first produced in 2007. Chris Hun7er 6:57, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
That cant be a Walther P22 in the movie...the first production of that pistol wasnt out tell 2001 and this movie was released in 2000 Spades of Columbia 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Can someone Change the Walther p22 to a unknown Pistol on the main page Spades of Columbia 18 may 2010
Ok...Im almost positive that pistol marked as p22 is actually a Kahr PM9, based on the round trigger guard and the open gap at the bottom of the magazine well both in which the p22 lacks. Spades of Columbia
Using the logic of this movie being made in 2000 then it can't be a PM9 either seeing as they were not introduced until the 2002 shot show. I am thinking it is a Kel Tec P11 based on the 2nd screen cap. The grip of the gun does not have the Kahr logo and the shape of the grip is off. It is, however, similar to the P11. --Ram229 20:18, 2 November 2011 (CDT)
Intratec CAT-9? --Funkychinaman 08:50, 8 February 2012 (CST)
Confusing Ending
I don't get the ending, why are some of the Chinese assassins are still active, like the guy with the Beretta 93R???
Beretta 93R
Where in the second screenshot is there a slide mounted safety? I don't see one, seems like a genuine 93R to me.
- I'm not sure it's a genuine 93R. You'll notice that the safety seems to be more the style of Taurus pistols, and it also has a Target rear sight. You can also faintly see the slide markings, and they seem consistent with a Taurus. It looks to me like it might actually be a Taurus PT99 mocked up as a Beretta 93R. -MT2008 (talk) 17:24, 17 November 2013 (EST)
Glock Supressor
Are that square Glock supressor real, or was it a stylistic choice for the movie? I have seen square suppressors in other movies and Tv shows, but have never known if they genuinely exist. Thanks --Rebusdi 05:14, 6 October 2011 (CDT)
- All suppressors that you see in movies are fake, regardless of whether they are based on real suppressors or not. The common practice amongst movie armorers with suppressors is to take a piece of rebar (or whatever is available), bore a hole through it, and then add an attachment that screws into the gun's internal barrel threading (which is necessary in order to put in the blank adapter). This is also why you routinely see actors attaching suppressors to guns that do not have externally threaded barrels. -MT2008 09:34, 8 February 2012 (CST)
Heckler & Koch MP5A3
Are you sure that the MP5 in below screenshot is the version with a Surefire 628 dedicated forend weaponlight? Based by the one screenshot, I would say it's the version with the original “slimline” forearm. Thing is I don’t really see a flashlight and the forearm looks pretty straight to me -- PeeWee055 (talk) 05:28, 18 November 2013 (EST)
Final battle last shot
When Shaw forces Bly to shoot the floor in the final confrontation what does explode on Bly's face? Is it the gun breaking, maybe parts of the hammer or something? Or is it just pieces of the stone floor slab? Is either of the cases realistic? Hastily pressing the tip of the suppressor on the floor is not a very good seal and bits of the floor slab wouldn't fly straight up. Estenwall (talk) 08:30, 13 July 2014 (EDT)
- I always thought it was the slide of the pistol flying off. --Funkychinaman (talk) 12:18, 13 July 2014 (EDT)