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An [[M72 LAW]] is seen carried by Corporal Tyson ([[John Voldstad]]) when the platoon gets ready to go after Winger and Ziskey.  The LAW rocket launchers are the M72A2 version, however, they have the large sticker on the side indicating that they are the Trainers, not the standard rockets.
 
An [[M72 LAW]] is seen carried by Corporal Tyson ([[John Voldstad]]) when the platoon gets ready to go after Winger and Ziskey.  The LAW rocket launchers are the M72A2 version, however, they have the large sticker on the side indicating that they are the Trainers, not the standard rockets.
 
[[Image:M72A2LAW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M72A2 LAW 66mm]]
 
[[Image:M72A2LAW.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M72A2 LAW 66mm]]
[[Image:Stripes-LAWM72A2a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Corporal Tyson loads a bunch of M72A2 LAW rockets (trainer rockets in reality) - 66mm]]
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[[Image:Stripes-LAWM72A2a.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Corporal Tyson ([[John Voldstad]]) loads a bunch of M72A2 LAW rockets (trainer rockets in reality) - 66mm]]
  
 
==M224 60mm Light Mortar==
 
==M224 60mm Light Mortar==
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==M67 Hand Grenade==
 
==M67 Hand Grenade==
Corporal Tyson must get rid of a supposedly 'live' [[M67_hand_grenade|M67 hand grenade]] of which Captain Stillman accidentally pulls the pin.  But it is clear that he holds the blue painted ''M69 Training hand grenade''.  (a) An Army officer would not be allowed to have live ordnance sitting on his desk, (b) the Corporal would probably have the presence of mind to not run with the grenade (and possibly trip) and just hold down the spoon until he can dispose of it (hopefully he is near the grenade range) or just take the pin and re-insert it into the fuse body and (c) in the film, Tyson yells "Grenade!" seconds after he leaves the office and we hear an explosion ... one wonders where he threw the grenade since it was so near to an Army Administration building full of people (?)   
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Corporal Tyson ([[John Voldstad]]) must get rid of a supposedly 'live' [[M67_hand_grenade|M67 hand grenade]] of which Captain Stillman accidentally pulls the pin.  But it is clear that he holds the blue painted ''M69 Training hand grenade''.  (a) An Army officer would not be allowed to have live ordnance sitting on his desk, (b) the Corporal would probably have the presence of mind to not run with the grenade (and possibly trip) and just hold down the spoon until he can dispose of it (hopefully he is near the grenade range) or just take the pin and re-insert it into the fuse body and (c) in the film, Tyson yells "Grenade!" seconds after he leaves the office and we hear an explosion ... one wonders where he threw the grenade since it was so near to an Army Administration building full of people (?)   
  
 
[[Image:M67.jpg|thumb|none|200px|M69 training grenade - an inert version of the M67 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade.]]
 
[[Image:M67.jpg|thumb|none|200px|M69 training grenade - an inert version of the M67 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade.]]
[[Image:Stripes-M67A.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Corporal Tyson nervously holds an M67 hand grenade (actually an inert blue M69 training grenade) in ''[[Stripes]]'' (1981).]]
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[[Image:Stripes-M67A.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Corporal Tyson ([[John Voldstad]]) nervously holds an M67 hand grenade (actually an inert blue M69 training grenade) in ''[[Stripes]]'' (1981).]]
  
 
==Field Gun==
 
==Field Gun==

Revision as of 23:40, 3 January 2012

Stripes (1981)

Stripes is the 1981 hit comedy starring Bill Murray and Harold Ramis (who would later re-team with director Ivan Reitman for Ghostbusters) as two buddies that decide to join the Army when their civilian lives begin to crumble around them. Despite being a broad farce with implausible situations, it is indicative of the mindset of the U.S. Military Volunteer Army in the 1970s (i.e. the immediate Post Vietnam War Years). Morale was not high, and despite an active Cold War with the Soviets, the military's budget was slashed under then President Jimmy Carter. Stripes was filmed with the cooperation of the U.S. Army who provided a Command Sergeant Major as technical adviser, and many portions of the film was filmed at the active Army base in Fort Knox, Kentucky (but nowhere near the famous "gold reserve"). Despite being irreverent, the film still depicted American Soldiers as brave and dedicated, albeit a little weird and goofy. It was that positive portrayal of the U.S. Army in general (despite some comical and incompetent characters) which allowed the Defense Department to approve helping the film. In 2005, a special edition DVD was released that included an extended cut of the film.

The following guns were used in the film Stripes:


M16A1

During basic training, the recruits are seen with M16A1 rifles.

M16A1 with 20 round magazine - 5.56x45mm.
During training the recruits hold M16A1 Rifles. What is interesting is that they still have their magazines locked, which is unnecessary since they are just on a forced march/run.
During bayonet training, we see a mix of M16A1 and M16 (SP1) rifles. Here, Ox (John Candy) engages in a bayonet charge with his M16A1.
Francis "Psycho" Soyer (Conrad Dunn) shoots live rounds at a flock of ducks and hits an observation tower. In reality such an action would result in the immediate removal of such a 'recruit'.

M16 (SP1)

Mixed in the M16A1 rifles are M16 (AR15 SP1) slab side receiver rifles. Though there 'may' have been some left over in inventory during the 1970s, when this movie was filmed, it would have been rare. These are 'movie' guns, aka, SP1 rifles converted to full auto fire by movie armorers.

M16 aka SP1 (flat "slab side receiver") with an A1 "birdcage" Flash hider, used to imitate the M16A1 in many Vietnam era movies. This version has a 20 round magazine - 5.56mm
John Winger's (Bill Murray) rifle is an original M16 (SP1) during bayonet training.
When Pvt. "Psycho" Soyer (Conrad Dunn) says "Finally I get to kill something", he loads a 20 round magazine into an M16 (SP1) slab side rifle.

M1 Garand "Training Rifles"

During the boot camp sequences of the film, the recruits don't actually use real M1 Garand rifles. They instead use plastic & metal training rifles patterned after the M1 Garand.

M1 Garand semiautomatic Rifle with leather M1917 sling - .30-06
Winger leads his platoon with plastic & metal M1 Garand Training Rifles.
Some detailed shots of Winger's Plastic & Metal M1 Garand training rifle.

M1 Garand

In the Extended Cut, several of the South American rebels that capture Winger and Ziskey carry M1 Garand rifles.

M1 Garand semiautomatic Rifle with leather M1917 sling - .30-06
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M1911A1

The Standard sidearm of all of the U.S. Military personnel (officers, NCOs, Military Police) is the M1911A1 in the film. What is interesting is that the so called "Russian Soldiers" (i.e. the officers) at the end of the film also carry M1911A1 pistols. It is supposed that they couldn't get Tokarev TT-33 pistols or Makarov PM pistols. However, they still could have gotten Walther PP Pistols though, which greatly resemble the Makarov PM (Indeed, the Makarov PM is based on it).

World War II issued Colt M1911A1 Pistol - .45 ACP.
Pvt. John Winger (Bill Murray) threatens Czechoslovakian Border guard (Joe Flaherty) with his M1911A1 while Pvt. Russell Ziskey (Harold Ramis) thinks of the consequences. Note: That is a fictional uniform for the Czechoslovakian soldier, made up of obsolete American uniform parts. It looks nothing like the real uniform that a border guard would wear.

Fake Uzi Submachine gun aka "The MAC Uzi"

Seen in the film are the fake Uzi Submachine guns, fabricated out of MAC-10s (9mm versions) by Special Effects Unlimited, in the 1970s. There may have not been enough real blank adapted Uzis in the U.S. at the time so these faux Uzis were used in several movies. These fake Uzis were famously used in the Christopher Walken film The Dogs of War and also in the films High Risk, The Killer Elite and Raw Deal.

Czechoslovakian Border guard (Joe Flaherty) with his "MAC-Uzi" with a full wooden stock - 9mm
Closeup of the "MAC-Uzi" with a full wooden stock - 9mm
The "Russian" Soldier in the tower reacts to the RV's rocket launcher while holding a "Mac-Uzi" - 9mm

MAC-10

MAC-10s are used by John Winger (Bill Murray) and Stella Hansen (P.J. Soles) during the rescue and by Russell Ziskey (Harold Ramis) at the end of the film.

Ingram MAC 10 open bolt submachine gun - .45 ACP

John Winger (Bill Murray) and Stella Hansen (P.J. Soles) wield their MAC-10s during the rescue of their platoon.
Russell Ziskey (Harold Ramis) with the MAC-10,
Russell fires his MAC-10 at the charging Russians.

Valmet M71S

Many of the so called "Russian Soldiers" at the base in Czechoslovakia are carrying Valmet M71S rifles, since real AKs or AK clones were near impossible to get in the 1970s. Only with the advent of imported rifles from China and Egypt did American movies get to see closer versions of the AK rifle series. The Valmet M71S rifles used in the film appear to be the 5.56mm versions.

A Valmet M71S chambered in 5.56x45mm (.223). The Valmet was also offered in 7.62x39mm
Leading the RV into the camp, "Russian Soldiers" carry the Valmet M71S Rifle.
"Russian guards" carry their Valmet M71S rifles (both with 20 round magazines).
A pair of "Russian" guards, one with a Valmet M71S rifle, the other with a real Uzi submachine gun, not the fake "MAC-Uzi"

Uzi SMG

A few real Uzi Submachine guns with full wooden stocks are briefly seen mixed in with the other weapons at the "Russian" base.

IMI Uzi with wooden buttstock - 9x19mm
Seen at the lower left of frame, a Russian soldier holds a wooden stocked Uzi - 9mm. Note: observe the "Russian Officers" uniform. No Soviet officer would wear their rank like that - the ranks were on the shoulder boards (which this uniform lacks) and they did not have service hash marks on their sleeves.

Winchester Model 1894

In the Extended Cut, several of the South American rebels that capture Winger and Ziskey carry Winchester Model 1894 rifles.

Winchester 1894 - .30-30.
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M60 Machine Gun

In the "Extended Cut", an Army Special Forces soldier is seen getting onto the transport armed with an M60 with the bipod removed.

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Browning M2HB

A Browning M2HB is briefly seen mounted atop an Army APC.

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M72A2 LAW

An M72 LAW is seen carried by Corporal Tyson (John Voldstad) when the platoon gets ready to go after Winger and Ziskey. The LAW rocket launchers are the M72A2 version, however, they have the large sticker on the side indicating that they are the Trainers, not the standard rockets.

M72A2 LAW 66mm
Corporal Tyson (John Voldstad) loads a bunch of M72A2 LAW rockets (trainer rockets in reality) - 66mm

M224 60mm Light Mortar

Recruits at Fort Knox are seen firing the M224 60mm Light Mortars at the range.

Recruits checking out the M224 - 60mm
Capt. Stillman (John Larroquette) challenges a recruit to fire the M224 - 60mm
Closeup of the M224 60mm Light Mortar - 60mm

M67 Hand Grenade

Corporal Tyson (John Voldstad) must get rid of a supposedly 'live' M67 hand grenade of which Captain Stillman accidentally pulls the pin. But it is clear that he holds the blue painted M69 Training hand grenade. (a) An Army officer would not be allowed to have live ordnance sitting on his desk, (b) the Corporal would probably have the presence of mind to not run with the grenade (and possibly trip) and just hold down the spoon until he can dispose of it (hopefully he is near the grenade range) or just take the pin and re-insert it into the fuse body and (c) in the film, Tyson yells "Grenade!" seconds after he leaves the office and we hear an explosion ... one wonders where he threw the grenade since it was so near to an Army Administration building full of people (?)

M69 training grenade - an inert version of the M67 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade.
Corporal Tyson (John Voldstad) nervously holds an M67 hand grenade (actually an inert blue M69 training grenade) in Stripes (1981).

Field Gun

A yet unidentified American Field gun (direct fire artillery versus a howitzer which is a high angle of fire weapon) is used by a "Russian" gunner who is dispatched by Sgt. Hulka (Warren Oates). It tries to destroy the American "Urban Assault Vehicle" with direct fire, but fails. Its second shot goes wild and destroys the remains of the Czech Border Guard Station.

Sgt. Hulka (Warren Oates) knocks out the Russian gunner, causing the barrel to swing upwards and fire.

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