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Talk:Chuck - Season 4
Casey's SIG
On the page it says it resembles the Tactical Operations variant of the P226, this is not true. It actually is a Tactical Operations P226. in this picture the gun clearly has a beavertail. --GunGeek 10:05, 15 January 2012 (CST)
Unidentified Weapons
This handgun was seen in "Chuck Versus the Suitcase" (S4E02). --Ben41 12:17, 11 January 2012 (CST)
- That looks like a Kimber Ultra Raptor II apart from that has front slide serrations as well as the rear serrations of the Raptor series of Kimbers. --cool-breeze 12:37, 11 January 2012 (CST)
HK P2000 possibly a HK45
The HK P2000 looks more like a HK45 or HK45C to me, check out the rear sights and the rail system, plus in the screens of Chuck and Volkov holding it that bore is definitely that of a .45 and not of a 9mm. --cool-breeze 07:28, 4 January 2012 (CST)
Additional Screenshots
Glock 34
In "Chuck Versus the Fear of Death" (S4E08), the henchmen all used Glock 34s, which were shown in close-ups. How the hell did you guys miss those? See, this is what I mean about the scatter-shot approach to finishing pages; we always miss out on firearms by doing them this way. -MT2008 18:52, 8 January 2012 (CST)
- It probably would have been more beneficial to actually add missing entries to the page so that they could be properly screencapped instead of complaining that things are missed. For someone who seems to know a lot about this series, it does seem odd that there's been very little contribution to the actual pages. --Ben41 21:58, 9 January 2012 (CST)
- Um, aside from the fact that I was one of the architects of the original page (and I secured pictures of the screen-used SIG 229 and S&W 5906 from this series via my ISS contact), my posting history reflects that I have in fact made corrections to the series pages. I would hardly call that "little contribution". I do not mean to denigrate the work you've done, but I have warned you before that your approach almost always leaves out weapons because you place too much trust in anonymous IMFDB users (many of whom are simply not comprehensive observers). If you're going to work on these pages, better to be complete instead of half-assing it. -MT2008 10:10, 10 January 2012 (CST)
- First, thanks for adding the screen-used weapons and what you've contributed to the site. When I first was cleaning up the page, my first priority was to add screencaps to those weapons already identified. Sorry, but if you feel that there were a lot of different weapons missing and these pages weren't complete enough, I would have thought I would have seen more edits from you filling in all the weapons that were missing. I've put a lot effort in organizing the pages for this show and putting up high quality screenshots and it's very disheartening to hear that it's still not good enough. If there's any more weapons missing, please list them in the discussion pages or put them in the actual pages and I can find the screenshots for them. --Ben41 14:34, 10 January 2012 (CST)
- I can't believe I'm doing this but here goes. I am rather offended to be referred to as an "anonymous user". I am a very comprehensive viewer, and in fact I have a photographic memory. I have seen every Chuck episode at least three times, and I will be doing a marathon of all episodes this summer. Undoubtedly I will be adding several missed weapons. I don't know what "half-ass" approach you are referring to, but I would like to back up Ben41 in saying that we have lives outside of imfdb, and some of us just don't have the time to be so "comprehensive". As Leo Nikolaevich Tolstoy once said, “The two most powerful warriors are patience and time.” Have faith in the fact that there are other chucksters out there who will get to fixing it. I would secondly really like to point out that in a sense, the Season 5 page has really been my baby, or rather a pet project of mine. I would spend around 3 hours after each episode, capping it and editing them into imfdb, whilst Ben41 kindly provided some with higher resolution. I have spent a ton of time adding missed guns into the Chuck series if you even bothered to look at this "anonymous" users edits. I was actually shocked at how many missing guns there were when I first joined imfdb. Please; I feel like I'm in Kindergarten again... let's act like responsible adults. MT2008 your post was very brash and derogatory and I can only hope that you can learn to approach your problems in a more humane manner. I haven't checked yet but I am assuming you are an admin, and if you feel the need to ban me or delete my account or whatever because you didn't like being told this, than I hope that someone else you run into in your life will help you learn to be a kinder person. Best Regards --Сергей Титов, Sergei Titov 21:04, 23 February 2012 (CST)