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Snub nose revolver

A Smith & Wesson Model 36? Greg-Z (talk) 08:11, 8 June 2013 (EDT) Yes! Thx, Greg.--Pandolfini (talk) 10:33, 8 June 2013 (EDT)

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Smith & Wesson Model 36 with square butt - .38 Special

AKS 47

I want to open a discussion about this particular gun used in movie. First of all there is no such thing as AKS 47, number "47" was never used either by Russians or Poles. Milled receiver AK with underfolding stock is just AKS, or in case of polish rifles it will be PmKS (Kalashnikov machine pistol składany) for guns made before 1962, and kbk AKS (Kalashnikov carbine - our nomenclature is a little bit different from American, AK is not a rifle but carbine, shortened AK will be classified as sub-carbine) for ones made after 1962. Currently all milled underfolders, both before and after 1962 are named kbk AKS by the army, and either kbk AKS or just AKS by civilian users.

Second and more important thing - on the screens I can see two different guns. First one is milled receiver AKS for sure, but the second one (used in shooting scene) seems to be not. It have dust cover and pistol grip taken from AKMS (stamped), but lacks of AKM/S muzzle brake. I'm unsure of the receiver - screens are not the first quality, but I can see three pins on the left side of the receiver - typical for stamped AKM/S. I would say that in firing scene they used AKMS, while in other scenes AKS, for some unknown reasons.

Fun fact: Notice the rear sight, it's set to the highest setting (8) which means zero at 800 meters, while gun is used at 50 and best setting for that distance would be 1 or maybe S.
Miko (talk) 16:56, 6 January 2015 (CET)

Discussing the gun's nomenclature might best be done on the discussion page for the gun or even the site's main talk page, rather than here. That said, I think 'AKS-47' is used as a more specific name, denoting that that rifle is a variant of the original AK-47 - 'AKS', though accurate, might be a tad too generic as a ID name - It'd be kind like how we use 'P226R' to identify newer SIG pistols even though they're not actually called that from the factory, and such. But that's just a thought, I could be wrong - There might some other reason for it being named that, or it could be an oversight. Either way, while it may not be right, it doesn't seem wrong either per-say, certainly not enough to change that name/title on the AK gun page and all the linked pages as well. Good spot about the differing guns though. Finally, when you make posts, be sure to conclude your post with the four marks as shown here, so that they display your username and date/time - ~~~~
StanTheMan (talk) 22:23, 5 January 2015 (EST)


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