Talk:Total Recall (1990)

Holy @%?!

Is the Goncz comment on the Main Page legit? If so, are we gonna have to remove the gun's page, or.. well, lets just say should I be worried this might be one of those feared legal things that risk the integrity of the whole site? I know there was some controversial history over this weapon, as noted by the info on the gun's page. Anyway, what does all this mean? StanTheMan 17:47, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Guess we better bring it Bunnie's attention. --Jcordell 17:59, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

- Indeed. I find this rather disconcerting. StanTheMan 18:08, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

I sent a message to Bunni and Moviepropmaster and I locked the movie page so only admin can make Changes. we'll get it figured out. --Jcordell 18:21, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, the guns in the film were Gonzc guns, Syd told me that YEARS ago, but WTF? The Claridges are all over the place. We NOTE the fight between the Claridges and GOncz on the Gun's page already. But we're not an official source of LEGAL info. Is this guy such a loon that he screams bloody murder because we MENTION the Claridge Hi-Tec? He can't demand the elimination of information. Also he has his head up his ass. He screams that this is intentional misinformation. How was it intentional? Did IMFDB users get together and CONSPIRE to somehow damage the reputation of him and his firearm? I am moving his diatribe here. I, being a gun guy for years, don't appreciate him threatening US because he has a beef with the Claridge people. MoviePropMaster2008 22:01, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

- Neither do I, MPM. And so I guess this answers my now considerably silly question, I now have no worry. In fact I can't help but laugh at myself. But also at this tripe. 'Bar' the original poster of the page? If the logs are right, that user hasn't even been around in about three years. Hah. Again I laugh at this. But, I gotta laugh at myself too - God was I being silly. StanTheMan 02:54, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes yes yes, BAN the original maker of the Total Recall page for daring to put a pic of a Claridge even though they are nearly identical guns! Wooo. A judge a jury would HANG a man for that ;) MoviePropMaster2008 17:10, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Speaking of which, shouldn't there be a link to the Claridge Hi-Tec/Goncz GA page in the article? I would do it myself, but...--PistolJunkie 04:05, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

- Indeed. In fact, could the page itself be unlocked again? I would assume the 'danger' has passed. StanTheMan 19:06, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Okay the page has been unlocked to registered users. And I see that there is now a link in the article to the pistol's page. Well that was fun. Stupid, but it did break the routine. --Jcordell 01:42, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

For a bit of extra controversy , check the edit history for the Goncz GA on wikipedia.--N-10 Aden 22:42, 15 May 2011 (CDT)

Goncz' posting

This posting is the most miss represented truth / plain english is a Big Lie!!!! The Claridge was not even in the existence, when the Goncz Weapons were invented in 1983 and produced since 1984. Also when the the film was made in Mexico I have the original Contract, that I supplied the weapons for the film. I had two Federal lawsuits against Coralco / the production company for breach of contract and against the claridges for Patent and Intellectual Property infringements.

The claridges made unauthorized copies, that was altered and made it the most unsafe firearm on the market. Highly recomended: Do not use the Claridge guns as they are unsafe and will result in injury or death.

Please do not misslead the public with a knowingly posting incorect info. We highly recommend to delete any and all postings as to the claridges.

I highly recommend to bar the originator of the Page as you are liable of miss representation. I will also forward this to my attorney: Dr. Webb for further action.

The above statements are true as I am the John Goncz, the inventor and the manufacturer of the Goncz Weapons.

Cordially , John Goncz

[email protected]

Dear Mister Goncz, Your manner and demeanor is NOT appreciated. Frankly you are not building any sympathy for you OR your complaint against the Claridge manufacturers or CAROLCO (correct spelling). Regardless of whether the Claridge people in Northridge caused legal harm by unduly copying your design, what in the hell does that have to do with THIS site? We are not liable for ANYTHING. I showed your statement to my lawyer and he laughed out loud. IMFDB does not promote the Claridge over your firearm, nor does it even offer a preference. We are not a gun review site, we are a chronicle of weapons that appear in movies. Besides, threatening EMAIL posts do nothing and more importantly, PROVE NOTHING. If you know that a Goncz appeared in a film for sure, then we welcome the information. But you cannot demand that we cease to RECOGNIZE the existence of the Claridge at all. That is utterly ridiculous. I for one KNOW that there are Claridges in movie armory inventory. Whether or not you believe them to be unsafe firearms is irrelevant. If they appear in a film or TV show then we list them here as a matter of record. MoviePropMaster2008 22:07, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

MP5/K

Heckler & Koch MP5K - version with SEF Plastic Trigger Pack - 9mm.

Heckler & Koch MP5K with SEF trigger group and foregrips removed 9x19mm

Melina opens up with MP5K. Eyes are open.

In Total Recall, You can see the 'Lip' under the barrel which is part of the Foregrip, but how she holds the Gun suggests the Grip has been sawn-off purhaps.

If I was sure when the SP89 came out I would say that it was a converted version. But I'm not shure when the SP89 came out nore am I sure 100% that this is a "K" gun.