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:::Yes, but the movie is set durring the prohibition era before World War II. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 23:08, 9 August 2010 (UTC) | :::Yes, but the movie is set durring the prohibition era before World War II. - [[User:Kilgore|Kilgore]] 23:08, 9 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
::::Yeah, that'd be my point. They shouldn't be using the M1917 OR the P14. - [[User:Nyles|Nyles]] | ::::Yeah, that'd be my point. They shouldn't be using the M1917 OR the P14. - [[User:Nyles|Nyles]] | ||
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Did treasury agents carry USGI pistols? That is, are the Colt auto pistols portrayed in the movie M1911A1s, or commercial Government Models? Is there a record of Ness or his men carrying Super .38s rather than .45s? If the former, then the guns in use would have to be GMs, as all M1911A1s were .45s.
- I don't know if Ness or his men used .38 Supers, but those were popular during the gangster era as only they and the .357 magnum revolvers could penetrate the early ballistic vests worn by some gangsters during the period.
P-14 rifle or M1917 Enfield Rifle
The article says the Mounties used P-14 British rifles, which would make since, but I would think since Canada is our neighbor (Bonjour Voisin), they would maybe use the Enfield M1917 rifle. I don't really think so, but it's would discussing. - Kilgore 00:03, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
- The rifles are M1917 Enfield's as Ellis Mercantile who supplied the weapons for the show only had one P14 Enfield in their inventory. - phoenixent 21:05, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
- Canada received some M1917s (and P14s, for that matter) during WW2 as substitute standard weapons to free up Lee-Enfields for use in Europe (which mainly went to the RCAF) but neither were ever a primary-issue weapon in the army and were never issued to the RCMP. Canadian issued (as well as British) M1917s has a red band painted around the stock to identify that they were in a non-standard caliber. In the 30s the RCMP would have been using SMLEs and the Colt New Service revolver in .455 in the West and .45 Colt in the East. - Nyles
- They are M1917 that are in the screencaps.-phoenixent 23:27, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Grenade
Did treasury officials normally have access to grenades?
- Are you really asking that question? No, they could not get grenade unless they got them illegally. - Kilgore 19:42, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
I was sarcastically pointing out that they tried to make the Treasury department look more Rambo-esq than is probably realistic. In fact it is widely excepted that Elliot Ness exageratted his exploits.