Talk:Star Wars

Isn't Jango & Boba Fett RPGs real weapons

Spaceart images

Star Wars: Stormtrooper E-11 Blaster - Ultimate Edition

Star Wars: Stormtrooper E-11 Blaster - Ultimate Edition

BlasTech DH-17 blaster pistol

Which movie was this? It was NOT the first one (A new hope) (1977) because I've handled those original Prop guns and they were just cheap metal tubes and NOT built on a Sterling SMG. The Stormtrooper ones yes, but the Rebels on the blockade runner had very simple crappy prop pistols made out of machined aluminum. MoviePropMaster2008 00:57, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

This is true, you can see during the blockade runner sequence the trigger guards on the dh-17s are really thick indicating something that was molded or thrown together cheaply.--Variableorange 05:22, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Star Wars guns

Star wars fans and costumers have been for years trying to find out what all the guns in the star wars saga were made of: Parts of Star Wars ([1]) is a fan-created list of most of the guns - from the main props to blink-and-you'll-miss-them ones wielded by extras. --Variableorange 05:17, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Page Re-Organization Recommendation

Is there any particular reason we have all the films in this franchise all on one page? I believe it would make more sense to split them into several pages covering the individual films and have a category to serve as a central hub for them. Orca1 9904 15:07, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Some Star Wars films have only one real-based guns (the first episode, for example) and is a waste to make so all of them are grouped in one page. - Kenny99 16:44, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

That's exactly what I did, group them all in one page. Excalibur01 01:59, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

I think this makes it look much less professional, however. --Jovantheun1337 19:17, 11 September 2011 (CDT)

Clone Blasters

Should the clone blasters really be on this page, since there was never actually a physical prop for any of them used in the films? The Wierd It 19:20, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Most viewers would not realize that, so it's probably best if there is a section for it, if only to point out that, unlike the rest of the gun on the page, that one doesn't actually exist.--PistolJunkie 21:25, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Droid blaster

Does anyone have any objection to the E-5 blaster used by the battle droids in the prequels being added?

The screen used practical props were made from castings of a an E-11 blaster replica, which itself was based on a Sterling. Granted, no guns were directly used to make this prop, but at least it is a physical prop unlike the clone rifles which are on this page.

Also, just as an unrelated bonus, here is a (hires) photo from a convention showing replicas of various Star Wars guns, where among others you can see the Episode VI Rebel rifles made from M-16 parts, and the Episode IV DH-17s notable by their thick trigger guards and generally cruder appearance. --commando552 00:15, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Trivia and such

I've seen closeups of the props like the Star Destroyer, Millenium Falcon and Death Star surface; since they were decorated with random pieces of warship, aircraft, truck and tank models, they're covered in recognisable components and some of the weapons could probably be ID'd pretty easily. Also, I've seen a writeup on the R/C version of the Jawa Sandcrawler showing it with the track guards removed; underneath is the running gear of a Tamiya 1/16 scale R/C Sherman. Evil Tim 23:20, 4 July 2011 (CDT)

Naming

Isn't it IMFDb police to list these by their REAL names, not their in-universe fictional names? I remember the mods making that point during one of the Goldeneye dust-ups. --Funkychinaman 18:15, 3 May 2012 (CDT)

You can see that the real firearm is put in parenthesis after the fictional name. Since these are modified versions, this is what it should be. --Ben41 19:24, 3 May 2012 (CDT)

Imperial officers and the DH-17 Blaster

Is there any screenshot that proves that the Imperials actually used or had the DH-17 blaster? As far as I can recall, they used E-11s most of the time.--Greed-sama (talk) 21:41, 16 April 2013 (EDT)

I know that the Imperial Navy troopers on the Death Star carry DH-17s. The guys that have the big bowl type open faced helmets. --commando552 (talk) 04:44, 17 April 2013 (EDT)

BlasTech DH-17 Blaster Pistol reflex-sight!

Hey all! Is it just me or is the "BlasTech DH-17 Blaster Pistol", as seen in "A New Hope", using the same type reflex sight that is shown in the 1978 movie "The Wild Geese"? If so, what is the name of that reflex sight? Dudester32 (talk) 13:10, 25 April 2013 (EDT)

As seen in A New Hope.

From the movie "The Wild Geese".

It is the same sight, it is called a Singlepoint OEG (Occluded Eye Gunsight). There were versions for rifles with a truncated cone at the end (the one pictured here) that produced a narrow dot, or versions for shotguns which had a dome that produced a wide dot. I think they were also both available in red or green, with red dots having a transparent dome/cone, and green ones having a translucent one. You could not actually look through them, you placed the scope over one eye keeping both eyes open and the dot was superimposed over the image from the uncovered eye. --commando552 (talk) 13:33, 25 April 2013 (EDT)

Well in that case I will add the info to the article :). Thanks man! Dudester32 (talk) 15:37, 25 April 2013 (EDT)

Jango Fetts guns

Does anyone know if the guns Jango Fett uses are copy from any real guns? It could look like a chrome .22 without grip plates but the trigger looks kinda strange so I don't know.

It always reminds me of an AutoMag without the ribbing on the barrel. Don't know why. --That's the Way It's Done (talk) 13:16, 1 February 2015 (EST)

Star Wars: Dark Forces II

Unlike the majority of games, Dark Forces II had Live Action cutscenes, I believe the only Star Wars game to have them (Not counting Stock Footage used in the Battlefront games or others that ust used Stock film footage). Three firearms appear, whether mocked up or not, I dunno. The cutscenes were never of high visual quality, so they may be a bit blurry. I figured all Star Wars, including games, go here.

First up is a familiar weapon: The DH-17 Blaster Pistol that appears in the game's second cutscene. It is only seen in this scene and is never seen again in cutscenes or even in-game.

The DH-17 is first held up to Kyle Katarn's (Jason Court) head by a thug in the second cutscene. Note distinctive barrel. THe rest is fa to obscured by the blurriness and blackness to be further detailed here.

Kyle turns the tables by beating the first thug and wrestling the gun away to aim at a second thug. The Singlepoint scope is there, sorta. It just appears to be a cast of sorts seeing the back end is filled in. Looking carefully you see an ammo pack on the side. Possibly ESB based then.

Cutscene fades after this moment where Kyle taunts the thug. Sight front is just black. Entire gun could just be a rubber prop, or maybe just the scope. Maybe LucasArts got some real props, but maybe not the scope? Despite clear use in this cutscene the gun is never seen again. When the level begins Kyle's weapon changes to his more unique Bryar pistol.

The second weapon also comes from the second cutscene. It's carried by the three-eyed Gran thug. Meant to stand in for the E-11 apparently, as the Gran switches to one when gameplay begins, and this gun is never seen again.

Gran thug holds it on Katarn in a bar booth. Some sort of scope or rail on top. Interestingly, the actor holds the gun just as the Grans in the game do. Still a bit odd looking though. The gloves look a bit goofy and his finger seems to be too fat to even fit through the trigger guard.

Gran thug sits down at bar stool in front of Kyle, lowering weapon on Kyle. The Gran is soon disarmed when Kyle flips the thug behind him over his shoulder and onto the table. Here we can see a magazine coming from the side of it. The weapon seems to be a poor mockup of the E-11. Makes sense I suppose as the Gran switches to an (even poorer digital version) E-11 in game.

And finally, Katarn's famous Bryar Blaster Pistol. It appears in several cutscenes throughout the game, and seems to be closely modeled after what appeared in the first Dark Forces. Interestingly, the in-game model differs substantially, as well as the models for it in Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy.

After the previous cutscene, Kyle ditches his DH-17 for his normal Bryar (Trivia: For the novel Rebel Agent, based on the game, most of the art does depict Katarn using his Bryar. However, in the original paintings he is actually armed with a DH-17 and the Bryar must've been digitally added later. A guess is that the artist saw the cutscene with Kyle stealing the DH-17 and assumed that it became his primary weapon). The third cutscene is the first time he draws it. He fires it several times, faking recoil. He blows a droid's arm off with it, but the rest of the droid escapes.

Have a few more that show off a magazine, a hammer, and some other interesting spots. Image upload suddenly died. --Clonehunter (talk) 00:00, 29 June 2013 (EDT)

Blanks

It seems odd that Lucas would bother having the guns in A New Hope actually fire blanks if he's just going to rotoscope in a beam in post. Not only would he be able to save money on having an armorer on set and safety considerations, he could've avoided dealing with flying brass and smoke. Although having the actors react to recoil was a nice touch, it's a stark contrast to how he filmed with prequels, with minimal sets and everything on greenscreen. --Funkychinaman (talk) 19:33, 22 April 2014 (EDT)

From what I understand, this was done to not only have the actors react to the weapons being fired, but to also have the animators who were going to add the lasers later on have a reference point of where the bolts should go.--Ben41 (talk) 20:17, 22 April 2014 (EDT)

And then, twenty years later, he stopped giving his actors sets to react to. --Funkychinaman (talk) 15:56, 29 April 2014 (EDT)

Missing Guns?

I think there are a few missing guns on this page, mainly from the bounty hunters in Empire. I believe Dengar has a modified MG42 and Bossk has a Schermully launcher, or am I just remembering these from production images and they never actually made it into the final cut of the film? --commando552 (talk) 06:52, 21 June 2014 (EDT)

• I believe Dengar is seen with an MG34 in promo shots, while in the actual film he has an MG42. Dengar's Promo 34 is seen in the hands of the droid bounty hunter 4LOM (Or maybe it's the other way around). There's a large number of other guns strewn throughout the films. This page could really use some reorganizing. --Clonehunter (talk) 17:42, 30 July 2014 (EDT)
• For that matter, isn't Greedo's gun missing?--Surv1v4l1st (talk) 00:04, 1 February 2015 (EST)

"Relby K23" blaster

I just uploaded two screencaps of a weapon (The "Relby K23 blaster") that I noticed missing from the article. I'm afraid I was a bit hasty uploading the caps as I learned (too late) that this weapon is not based on an actual firearm but was taken from a "nemrod" speargun. Since I can't delete the photos I figure I'd post them here just in case.

Cool, good to have everything possible I'd say. This might qualify to be on the page with the 'If it could be mistaken as a real firearm-mockup, etc' point, but if not, can definitely still go here on the discussion page I'm sure. That said, a minor technical note - 'none' should be set as the justification for all image thumbnails on talk pages. I went ahead and adjusted them accordingly here, just keep that in mind next time. StanTheMan (talk) 14:48, 19 February 2015 (EST)

Oh...Did not realise that. I just put the two screencaps beside each other just to go easy on the eyes :). But, lesson learned! Dudester32 (talk) 17:01, 19 February 2015 (EST)

Well that might be fine at the resolution you're using, but they appeared diagonally for me because I only have a 1280 res on this system, and that's the point - Keep in mind we're dealing with various screen-size/resolution configurations here, so what looks fine to you may look odd to another. Keeping no alignment bypasses that potential issue entirely. It's no big deal, though, just a heads up. ;) StanTheMan (talk) 18:49, 19 February 2015 (EST)

Finn's blaster

Is it just me, or does it look like Finn's blaster in the below promo image is based to some degree of a G36?

Heckler & Koch G36C - 5.56x45mm

The parts that make me think this ar ethe shape of the magazine well and that diagonal line at the back of the handgaurd. It also looks like this might be a mirrored image as it has what looks like the ejection port (complete with sci-fi blue glow) and brass deflector on the left side. The sight on top also looks like it is based on the old Singlepoint OEG sights that were on the rebel blasters of the original trilogy, plus it has that shiny barrel which makes me think it might be intended to be a progression of the DH-17. --commando552 (talk) 13:36, 24 July 2015 (EDT)

KPOS Glock carbines in "The Force Awakens"

Apparently, in addition to slightly modified E-11 blasters, the Stormtroopers in "The Force Awakens" also get Mako KPOS Glock carbines painted white. I've seen them on 1:6 TFA Stormtrooper toys, but I can't recall if there are any movie photos to confirm it. Anyone? --Seriously Mike (talk) 10:33, 28 August 2015 (EDT)