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I was really just wondering how other people envisioned the guns in the books regardless of the movie images and proper mechanics, because the story is, after all, fantasy.--[[User:H3nry8adger1982|H3nry8adger1982]] ([[User talk:H3nry8adger1982|talk]]) 16:26, 23 January 2017 (EST)H3nry8adger1982
 
I was really just wondering how other people envisioned the guns in the books regardless of the movie images and proper mechanics, because the story is, after all, fantasy.--[[User:H3nry8adger1982|H3nry8adger1982]] ([[User talk:H3nry8adger1982|talk]]) 16:26, 23 January 2017 (EST)H3nry8adger1982
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== Calibers ==
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I think the caliber listing needs some way of distinguishing the listing is period production and note separately what's "modern" production (however it be defined. Post 1945? Smokeless proofed? Not by Colt?) since virtually every rimmed handgun cartridge still in production prob has an SAA clone in it somewhere. --[[User:VladVladson|VladVladson]] ([[User talk:VladVladson|talk]]) 18:52, 14 June 2021 (EDT)

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Additional Images

Screen-Used

Colt Single Action Army w/ 7.5" barrel. This is the screen used gun used by Henry Fonda and Charles Bronson in Once Upon a Time in the West, with nickel finish.)
Colt Single Action Army w/ 5" barrel with blued finish. This is the screen used gun used by Jason Robards in the film Once Upon a Time in the West.
The Custom engraved Colt Single Action army used by Lance Henriksen in The Quick and the Dead (1995) - .45 LC.
The EMF Hartford Single Action Army with an aluminum lightweight 4 3/4" barrel and nickel finish and holster used by Sharon Stone in The Quick and the Dead (1995). - .45 Long Colt. Source: Supplied by Long Mountain Outfitters.
The two Cimmaron Arms Single Action Army 4 3/4" Quickdraws with engraved nickel finishes and holsters used by Leonardo DiCaprio in The Quick and the Dead (1995) - .45 Long Colt. Source: Supplied by Long Mountain Outfitters.
One of the Single Action Army "Hand of God" live-firing revolvers used by Russell Crowe in 3:10 to Yuma.
Replica Colt Single Action Army Revolver - .45 Long Colt. This is the screen used gun, held and worn by Viggo Mortensen in Hidalgo.
Single Action Army .45 Long Colt with nickel finish, pearl "Bird's Head" grips, and custom muzzle brake. This is the actual screen-used pistol seen in the film Kill Bill Vol. 2.
EMF/Uberti Buntline Special used by Kurt Russell in the film Tombstone. Due to the fact that current production Colt Buntlines are only available in 12" barrels, the film's armorer contacted EMF/Uberti to have three custom Buntlines made for Tombstone. From the personal collection of the film's armorer Peter Sherayko.
Colt 1873 Single Action Army w. 7.5" barrel. This is the Hero Colt (Serial Number 4562. Mfd. 1874) used by Tom Selleck in Monte Walsh.
Custom Single Action Army - .45 Long Colt. This is the screen-used firearm first carried by Sylvester Stallone in The Expendables. Thanks to James Georgopoulos.
Single Action Army Artillery - .45 Long Colt. This is one of the screen-used revolvers carried by Armie Hammer in The Lone Ranger (2013). Thanks to James Georgopoulos.

Colt Models

Two custom Single Action Army revolvers with 4.75" barrel, ivory grips, and custom engravings - .45 Long Colt. The bottom is the 'hero gun' from Patton, while the top is the actual SAA carried by Patton. Photograph courtesy of the Patton Museum of Cavalry and Armor, Fort Knox, KY.
Colt Single Action Army "Quick Draw" - .45 Long Colt.
Colt Sheriff's Model Single Action Army w/ 3.5" barrel - .45 LC.
Colt Single Action Army w/ 4.75" barrel, custom engraved with ivory - .32-20 Winchester
Colt Single Action Army Artillery Model w/ 5.5" barrel - .38-40 Winchester.
Colt Single Action Army w/ 4.75" barrel, referred to as "Quick-Draw" or "Civilian" model, custom engraved with ivory grips - .38 Special
Colt Single Action Frontier Scout Revolver - .22 LR.
Colt Single Action Army Fast Draw Model "Hand of God" - .45 LC
Flat-top target model with ivory grips. this specimen was manufactured in 1895. It can be seen at the Gene Autry museum.
Flat-top target model with ivory grips (left side)
Colt Single Action Army with wooden grips - .45 Long Colt
Colt Single Action Army w/ 7.5" barrel known as the "Cavalry" model with ivory grips
Colt Single Action Army "Artillery" model with 5.5" barrel and ivory grips - .45 Long Colt

Replica Models

Cimarron Model P (Copy of the Single Action Army) Nickel Finish - .45 Long Colt
Denix Peacemaker with 4.75" barrel. This non-firing zinc replica is typically not used in films, but could possibly be used as a stand-in prop.
Denix Peacemaker with 4.75" barrel and "blue" finish
Uberti Repicla Single Action Army sporting the bird's head grip modification to make the gun more concealable
An Uberti "Cattleman" replica of Colt SAA "Artillery" model.
Uberti Replica of Colt Single Action Army 5 1/2" Artillery with rattlesnake grips carried by "The Man with No Name".
Uberti Replica of Colt Single Action Army 5 1/2" "Stallion".
Uberti Cattleman Nickel - .45 LC.
Chiappa SAA 1873, a blank firing replica of Single Action Army - .22 blank
Helfricht Shop Engraved Colt SAA Revolver - .45 Long Colt

Discussion

We will be spending an eternity getting all the SAA entries

To get this current we are missing many instances of the SAA in the countless Westerns (or even non-westerns) films and Television shows, going all the way back to the Silent era. It will take a long time, but we must do it. Anyone familiar with the SAA's usage in film/television will immediately know that we've only mentioned a FRACTION of the times the SAA has appeared over the last 100 years of cinema. MPM2008

Makes me want to go back to bed just thinking about it. If I wasn't at work right now I would. Big job ahead of us.--Jcordell 16:12, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Colt Bisley

The Colt Bisley was not produced in Bisley. Bisley is not a factory, it's a world-famous shooting range and mecca for competitive shooting, so when they introduced a target model they called it the Bisley model. The only British-made Colts were percussion revolvers made between 1854-1856.


Fun little quote about the Single Action Army

Eh, I just thought I'd throw this in for a little bit of fun and praise to this firearm:

"Be not afraid of any man no matter what his size; when danger threatens, call on me, and I will equalize."

--ThatoneguyJosh 11:01, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Here's another one, which could've been directed at any Colt firearm, but was most likely meant in reference to the SAA:

"Abe Lincoln may have freed all men, but Sam Colt made them equal."

Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 21:42, 5 March 2018 (EST)

I hear that second one as "God made all men, but Samuel Colt made all men equal." Evil Tim (talk) 00:22, 6 March 2018 (EST)

Appearances

Wouldn't it make sense, regarding the sheer amount of appearances that this gun has, for someone to put them in lists by variant, then alphabetize those? --Sangheili1155 (talk) 15:16, 16 November 2012 (EST)

Ammo

How common is .45 Long Colt today? Spartan198 (talk) 17:36, 5 March 2013 (EST)

It's common enough honestly depends on the loads you're looking for, most of the online stuff is out but you'd be able to find some at local gunshops. --Black Irish Paddy (talk) 17:45, 5 March 2013 (EST).

What exactly are "loads?" - User: 2wingo

The rounds, ammunition, cartridges, et al. Basically it's what you load in the brass to shoot, lots of different loads for .45 Colt. Hunting, target shooting, self defense. The sky's the limit dude. --Black Irish Paddy (talk) 10:51, 7 March 2013 (EST).

Fanning the hammer

Can this be done with any single-action revolver, or only on older models without the modern internal safeties? - User: 2wingo The transfer bar found on post-1958 Rugers and some other clones prevent this most of the time. Mike Searson (talk) 15:02, 5 January 2017 (EST)

What is this Variants ?

--KINKI'boy 21:56, 1 March 2014 (JST)

These, I believe, are Uberti replicas. - User:2wingo

I've been reading Stephen King's Dark Tower series and I envision Roland's revolvers being SAAs with swing-out cylinders. Does anyone else share this opinion? (I am only in book three, so please avoid spoilers)--H3nry8adger1982 (talk) 11:00, 29 October 2016 (EDT)H3nry8adger1982

-- In the film adaptation, they'll be using cartridge-converted Remington 1858 New Armies, which have cylinders you can remove and swap out like speedloaders. - User:2wingo

Can't you swap out SAA cylinders too? Or at least remove them for cleaning?--H3nry8adger1982 (talk) 14:08, 5 January 2017 (EST)H3nry8adger1982

You have to use tools to remove the cylinder on a Colt, while a New Army's cylinder can be swapped out in the heat of battle. - User:2wingo

Not necessarily. The older Blackpowder frame, yes, because the base pin was held in place by a screw. Frames made after 1898 have a push pin release type of cylinder bolt as opposed to the screw found on the Blackpowder frame (pre 1898). You push in the release, pull out the cylinder pin and remove the cylinder. Mike Searson (talk) 15:01, 5 January 2017 (EST)
But aren't those really fragile and prone to breaking in comparison to screw pins? - User:2wingo
I have yet to break one and I own Colt's over 100 years old that I have run in SASS matches and fired thousands of rounds from before realizing my one 1st Gen was valued in the low 5 figures. Mike Searson (talk) 17:38, 5 January 2017 (EST)

I was really just wondering how other people envisioned the guns in the books regardless of the movie images and proper mechanics, because the story is, after all, fantasy.--H3nry8adger1982 (talk) 16:26, 23 January 2017 (EST)H3nry8adger1982

Calibers

I think the caliber listing needs some way of distinguishing the listing is period production and note separately what's "modern" production (however it be defined. Post 1945? Smokeless proofed? Not by Colt?) since virtually every rimmed handgun cartridge still in production prob has an SAA clone in it somewhere. --VladVladson (talk) 18:52, 14 June 2021 (EDT)


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