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:"The American Release Title takes precedence," it has it's own section in the [[Rules]]. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 14:50, 10 May 2017 (EDT)
 
:"The American Release Title takes precedence," it has it's own section in the [[Rules]]. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 14:50, 10 May 2017 (EDT)
 
::Did the game come out first in Europe? Form what I can find it was released on September 12th 2013 in Europe, but July 3rd 2013 in the USA. Or is Steam wrong with these dates? For the purposes of this discussion though the date is irrelevant, as we list things by their US release name for the majority of cases regardless of where the media was released first. However, the thing that makes this case a bit complicated is that the US publisher went bust so it is now published in the US by the European company under the SKILL name. In this case, as it is both currently distributed in the US under this name and this is also the same name that is used internationally, I would lean towards SKILL.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 16:55, 10 May 2017 (EDT)
 
::Did the game come out first in Europe? Form what I can find it was released on September 12th 2013 in Europe, but July 3rd 2013 in the USA. Or is Steam wrong with these dates? For the purposes of this discussion though the date is irrelevant, as we list things by their US release name for the majority of cases regardless of where the media was released first. However, the thing that makes this case a bit complicated is that the US publisher went bust so it is now published in the US by the European company under the SKILL name. In this case, as it is both currently distributed in the US under this name and this is also the same name that is used internationally, I would lean towards SKILL.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 16:55, 10 May 2017 (EDT)
::Like Funky said, it has its own section in the rules. [[Rules#The_American_Release_Title_takes_precedence|Read em and weep.]] It has nothing to do with America being "better" that Europe or vice versa, IMFDb is a damned ''US-based'' website. So stop trying to make this into some nationalist rubbish. As for the game being re-released under its European title, I present as an example ''Mad Max 2'', which despite having long ago been re-released as ''Mad Max 2'' and ''Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior'' in North America, the [[The Road Warrior|IMFDb page for the movie]] ''still'' retains its original North American release title. The only time we make exceptions is if the foreign title isn't changed for the US release, there is ''no'' English translation for it (e.g., ''[[Upotte!!]]''), or the media in question achieved world-wide acclaim under its original title (e.g., ''[[Léon: The Professional]]''). This game might be popular in Europe, but it surely hasn't achieved any world-wide critical acclaim. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:00, 10 May 2017 (EDT)
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::Like Funky said, it has its own section in the rules. [[Rules#The_American_Release_Title_takes_precedence|Read em and weep.]] It has nothing to do with America being "better" than Europe or vice versa, IMFDb is a damned ''US-based'' website. So stop trying to make this into some nationalist BS rubbish. As for the game being re-released under its European title, I present as an example ''Mad Max 2'', which despite having long ago been re-released as ''Mad Max 2'' and ''Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior'' in North America, the [[The Road Warrior|IMFDb page for the movie]] ''still'' retains its original North American release title. The only time we make exceptions is if the foreign title isn't changed for the US release, there is ''no'' English translation for it (e.g., ''[[Upotte!!]]''), or the media in question achieved world-wide acclaim under its original title (e.g., ''[[Léon: The Professional]]''). This game might be popular in Europe, but it surely hasn't achieved any world-wide critical acclaim. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 18:00, 10 May 2017 (EDT)

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S&W 60

It can't be an S&W 60. The revolver in the game has six shots, the S&W 60 only has five. --Funkychinaman (talk) 16:48, 13 December 2013 (EST)


Soldier Front ??

This game is called S.K.I.L.L. Why was the page name changed? By doing this I was playing skill game. Not at Soldier Front. http://store.steampowered.com/app/286940/SKILL__Special_Force_2_Shooter/?l=polish&cc=de Please return to the old page name. --Emto_PL (talk) 08:35, 10 May 2017 (EDT)

The english Steam page lists this as SKILL as well. Soldier Front 2 appears to be a completely different game. --Funkychinaman (talk) 09:12, 10 May 2017 (EDT)
So is this a different game or not? If the information at the top of the page is correct, then yes, it goes under the english title. But not if it's a completely different game. --Funkychinaman (talk) 12:13, 10 May 2017 (EDT)
Then whoever listed the alternate names on the main page must be misinformed, because it says the game is called Soldier Front 2 in North America at the top of the main page. As this is an American site, the American title should take precedence unless it's hugely popular under another name (e.g., Léon: The Professional). You say Soldier Front is a different game, but yet the See Also section has a link to the Soldier Front page (red because the page contents were moved to the talk page). Why is there a See Also link to a seemingly unrelated game? Additionally, Wikpedia claims the Special Force games were released in North America under the title Soldier Front, while "S.K.I.L.L. - Special Force 2" is the name of a European ESL competition league. And the logos for the games are practically identical. So the whole thing is a bit confusing to me. Spartan198 (talk) 12:39, 10 May 2017 (EDT)

The game is very popular in Europe. And it is called "S.K.I.L.L. - Special Force 2". I am European and I was doing this site. So the name of the page should not be changed.--Emto_PL (talk) 12:52, 10 May 2017 (EDT)

According to this, there are two separate versions, one for NA and the other presumably for the rest of the world. As Mateogala said, he covered the EU version. I'll change the title back, but we should explain the difference on the page. --Funkychinaman (talk) 13:15, 10 May 2017 (EDT)
This isn't Wikipedia where editors can claim "ownership" of pages based on nationality or ethnicity. If the only difference between Skill and Soldier Force 2 is the regions of their respective player bases, then it's the same game and the North American title should take precedence. If there are actual gameplay or content differences, then fair enough. But if not, the page name should be changed back to Soldier Force 2. Spartan198 (talk) 13:56, 10 May 2017 (EDT)

Tell me why America has priority over Europe? What is Europe worse? The game came first in Europe. Then in america. So the European version was faster. --Emto_PL (talk) 14:28, 10 May 2017 (EDT)

"The American Release Title takes precedence," it has it's own section in the Rules. --Funkychinaman (talk) 14:50, 10 May 2017 (EDT)
Did the game come out first in Europe? Form what I can find it was released on September 12th 2013 in Europe, but July 3rd 2013 in the USA. Or is Steam wrong with these dates? For the purposes of this discussion though the date is irrelevant, as we list things by their US release name for the majority of cases regardless of where the media was released first. However, the thing that makes this case a bit complicated is that the US publisher went bust so it is now published in the US by the European company under the SKILL name. In this case, as it is both currently distributed in the US under this name and this is also the same name that is used internationally, I would lean towards SKILL. --commando552 (talk) 16:55, 10 May 2017 (EDT)
Like Funky said, it has its own section in the rules. Read em and weep. It has nothing to do with America being "better" than Europe or vice versa, IMFDb is a damned US-based website. So stop trying to make this into some nationalist BS rubbish. As for the game being re-released under its European title, I present as an example Mad Max 2, which despite having long ago been re-released as Mad Max 2 and Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior in North America, the IMFDb page for the movie still retains its original North American release title. The only time we make exceptions is if the foreign title isn't changed for the US release, there is no English translation for it (e.g., Upotte!!), or the media in question achieved world-wide acclaim under its original title (e.g., Léon: The Professional). This game might be popular in Europe, but it surely hasn't achieved any world-wide critical acclaim. Spartan198 (talk) 18:00, 10 May 2017 (EDT)

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