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Talk:Overwatch
SMGs from Sombra short film
Not sure what these are, but they're never seen that well throughout the Sombra short film. Unsure if totally fictionalized or based on something or if they are something. They seem to have AK-style bakelight (?) magazines, though.
There's also a short film starring Winston which features some gun-weilding commandos. But it's too dark to really see anything. Could be the same gun model, though. --Clonehunter (talk) 15:49, 3 June 2017 (EDT)
- IIRC, the guns used in Winston's character intro video looked a bit like Tavors, but maybe that's just me. Also, we might be able to wire in the rocket launcher used by Pharah, the autoloading shotguns used by Reaper (of which he carries a literally infinite amount), and maybe Widowmaker's hybrid sniper rifle/assault rifle (which, in the latter mode, seems to use a balanced-action principle, with the top of the handguard pivoting forward with every shot as the barrel recoils. Any thoughts? Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 19:48, 3 June 2017 (EDT) P.S.: I'm calling it now, there are going to be people calling for this page to get nuked, saying that it doesn't have enough real weapons to justify its existence.
- I feel like they have a point, outside the very obviously real guns in the one movie. It's incredibly arbitrary this game has a page but Halo, which is far and away more realistic, doesn't. That revolver, for instance, looks absolutely nothing like any single real-world gun I've ever seen in my life; it's like Blizzard just told their modelers to make a generic revolver, slap some LEDs on it, and then stick a spur in the grip and call it a day. The same goes for the one character's SMG; it's just about every generic SMG/machine pistol trope you could have (one handed, collapsed stock, fore-grip you don't use) rolled into one gun, although I'll grant it's still closer to the CPW. Same for the grenade launcher; it's very obviously not a real gun. And the blunderbuss: I feel like that's a really generic weapon category anyway. And the minigun: Bastion's has almost half again as many barrels as a real M134, so I feel like IDing it as one is quite a bit of a stretch (although pointing out the ways in which it's not an M134 does seem legitimate); the gangster in the video at least has one with the appropriate number of barrels. Apart from those two guns (the AKs and the minigun), though, I feel like everything else is clearly fictional and shouldn't be on the page. If you can't name a single real-world analog for the gun (like the revolver specifically), it's not worth having, in my opinion. --That's the Way It's Done (talk) 23:15, 3 June 2017 (EDT)
- You called it right, this page serves no point. Sure the game is popular, but every gun has generic elements. McCree's Revolver barely works in the context of gun design with a wafer thin grip, spur and magical sabot bullets. The Soldier 76 stuff is fairly generic, 1911's are holster stuffers in dozens of games and that skin for his rifle just looks like a bunch of M4 bits stuck together. Anything with Junkrat or Roadhog makes little sense and isn't based on reality, and Sombra's SMG only vaguely looks like a CPW. A game can be popular but nothing in this page is worth saving because only a few weapons are based on reality. And a few guns in promo videos that look like morphed versions of AK's and M134's isn't worth saving for a full page, especially for a game this big. --PaperCake 00:23, 4 June 2017 (EST)
- Well, in that case... Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 02:19, 4 June 2017 (EDT)
- You called it right, this page serves no point. Sure the game is popular, but every gun has generic elements. McCree's Revolver barely works in the context of gun design with a wafer thin grip, spur and magical sabot bullets. The Soldier 76 stuff is fairly generic, 1911's are holster stuffers in dozens of games and that skin for his rifle just looks like a bunch of M4 bits stuck together. Anything with Junkrat or Roadhog makes little sense and isn't based on reality, and Sombra's SMG only vaguely looks like a CPW. A game can be popular but nothing in this page is worth saving because only a few weapons are based on reality. And a few guns in promo videos that look like morphed versions of AK's and M134's isn't worth saving for a full page, especially for a game this big. --PaperCake 00:23, 4 June 2017 (EST)
- I feel like they have a point, outside the very obviously real guns in the one movie. It's incredibly arbitrary this game has a page but Halo, which is far and away more realistic, doesn't. That revolver, for instance, looks absolutely nothing like any single real-world gun I've ever seen in my life; it's like Blizzard just told their modelers to make a generic revolver, slap some LEDs on it, and then stick a spur in the grip and call it a day. The same goes for the one character's SMG; it's just about every generic SMG/machine pistol trope you could have (one handed, collapsed stock, fore-grip you don't use) rolled into one gun, although I'll grant it's still closer to the CPW. Same for the grenade launcher; it's very obviously not a real gun. And the blunderbuss: I feel like that's a really generic weapon category anyway. And the minigun: Bastion's has almost half again as many barrels as a real M134, so I feel like IDing it as one is quite a bit of a stretch (although pointing out the ways in which it's not an M134 does seem legitimate); the gangster in the video at least has one with the appropriate number of barrels. Apart from those two guns (the AKs and the minigun), though, I feel like everything else is clearly fictional and shouldn't be on the page. If you can't name a single real-world analog for the gun (like the revolver specifically), it's not worth having, in my opinion. --That's the Way It's Done (talk) 23:15, 3 June 2017 (EDT)