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Happy New Year!

Say hello to 2021!--Ben41 (talk) 03:07, 1 January 2021 (EST)

Cheers, everybody! Here's hoping that 2021 goes better than 2020. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 12:20, 1 January 2021 (EST)

Same to you. Fingers crossed. --Jcordell (talk) 01:30, 2 January 2021 (EST)

Amen to that. --Dan San (talk) 13:29, 2 January 2021 (EST)

Need help classifying something

So, I've been working on a side-project for a while, and in the process, I've added a fair few new gun images to the site. Normally, I'd just put them on the appropriate gun page, or on the relevant category page if it doesn't have a page of its own. Problem, is, I just added this:

6P62 - 12.7x108mm

This here is, as the caption suggests, a 6P62. It's a Russian prototype, it's chambered in 12.7x108mm, and it's full-auto. It was never meant for long-range use (you can't find an image of this thing online with a scope, and it'd probably beat one to death if you tried), so it can't go under Sniper Rifles; it's full-auto, so it can't go with the Semi-Auto Rifles, it fires a round too big to be an Assault Rifle, Battle Rifle, or Light Machine Gun, and it's a man-portable, non-fixed-mounted gun, so it can't be a Heavy Machine Gun either. Where should I put this thing? BrandonColeford1992 (talk) 02:25, 5 January 2021 (EST)

Miscellaneous section of the rifle category maybe?--Aidoru (talk) 02:39, 5 January 2021 (EST)

It was originally intended as a "Ручной крупнокалиберный пулемёт 6П62" (Handheld Large-Caliber Machine Gun 6P62), so we can specify it as a machine gun Pustelga7 (talk) 03:59, 5 January 2021 (EST)

At some point, I had a discussion with someone else here regarding this gun. It can go to the machine gun category. It seems to be rare case of a heavy machine gun that is actually man-portable. Sometimes it's also referred to as an anti-materiel rifle; if we choose this one, we can simply list it under the general "Rifles" category. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 07:20, 5 January 2021 (EST)

See, I don't really think we can put it in "Rifles", since there's no subcategory for full-auto rifles, and creating one would just result in a big mish-mash of all the assault rifles and select-fire battle rifles. I could get behind calling it an HMG, but I'd still call it a bit strange given that it's a gun one person can (ostensibly) pick up and fire. Maybe we could create a dedicated Anti-Materiel Rifle category? Sure, it would contain a bunch of guns that are already in the Sniper Rifle category, but then again, we have separate categories for Grenade Launchers and UBGLs, so it's not like it'd be unprecedented. Plus, this way we could remove the AT rifles from the Sniper Rifle category, since they really don't fit the bill. Oh, and speaking of AT, I have another discussion to write in. BrandonColeford1992 (talk) 01:08, 6 January 2021 (EST)

Then just put it in the machine gun category.--Wuzh (talk) 00:07, 7 January 2021 (EST)

Fair enough. Still think that the AMR category idea holds some water, though. BrandonColeford1992 (talk) 01:20, 7 January 2021 (EST)

Category Proposals

How about a category for films in the US National Film Registry? As iconic films, these are likely among the first articles a newcomer would check, and their cultural importance makes documenting them of particular note. Of lesser note, we have at least four films (Operation Kid Brother, Per Aspera Ad Astra, Diabolik, Invasion USA) that have been featured on Mystery Science Theater 3000, and there are many, many more films it featured that could have an article in the future. Should a category for one or both be added? --VladVladson (talk) 00:21, 19 January 2021 (EST)

National Film Registry. --Greg-Z (talk) 01:22, 19 January 2021 (EST)

Discord

I've made one. Feel free to float any suggestions/improvements by me; if you're a moderator here, let me know on my talk page and I'll set you up as one there (should you so desire). Rules aren't that much of an issue; generally speaking, if it wouldn't fly here, it won't fly there.

So, if you so desire, hop on in.

Lemme know what you guys think - like I said, I'm open to suggestions. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 16:42, 21 January 2021 (EST)

To Catch A Predator page

Would anyone be opposed to a page for To Catch A Predator with Chris Hansen? Strange idea but the show did feature a lot of firearms, mostly used by police, but also in the cars of some predators. (Theakker3 (talk) 20:55, 24 January 2021 (EST))

Before we begin, why don't you have a seat right over there? But, anyway, there's a rule against pages for documentaries on this site, but we'll have to see if an admin is okay on allowing a TCAP page.

On another note, I do remember trying to identify the guns used on this show. The police mostly carried full-sized Glocks, one predator had a compact Glock of some sort found in his car, another one had what looks like a Mossberg 500 found in his car, a picture of which you included here. And then there was that guy who had several guns in his car (also seen here). I think it would be a cool page to have, but again, up to the admins. --PyramidHead (talk) 21:30, 24 January 2021 (EST)

Docs and reality-type shows and the like are unilaterally disallowed as far as I'm aware. StanTheMan (talk) 21:47, 24 January 2021 (EST)

Would you guys be willing to consider this one? (Theakker3 (talk) 15:17, 28 January 2021 (EST))

No, this would not be eligible. --Funkychinaman (talk) 20:23, 29 January 2021 (EST)

Grandpa Simpson's gun

I know we don't do pages for cartoons but I was watching The Simpsons, 'Who Shot Mr. Burns? Part 1' and there is a scene that depicts a fairly detailed revolver (as far as Simpsons animation goes) that looks like it might have been copied from an actual gun. While Bart helps Grandpa unpack, he opens a cigar box that contains an old revolver that Grandpa refers to as his "old Smith and Wesson". Does this resemble any Smith & Wesson model? (Theakker3 (talk) 01:28, 3 February 2021 (EST))

Bart finds Grandpa's "old Smith & Wesson".

"If you're going to play with it, be careful, because it's loaded."

Inspired by Remington 1875. --Greg-Z (talk) 02:19, 3 February 2021 (EST)

Remington 1875 - .45 Long Colt.

Weapons Handling

Are notes regarding the way actors and extras are handling their weapons welcome on certain images? I have noticed a lot of WWII movies where the actors incorrectly hold or move with their weapons like they are a modern-day soldier securing a room with an M4. Soldiers were not trained to move that way during WWII. Without shinning too much light on it, is it ok to point this out in certain images where it is very noticeable? (Theakker3 (talk) 22:19, 9 February 2021 (EST))

Captain Glover (Sam Worthington) in Hacksaw Ridge with his M1 Carbine. He holds it in the low-ready stance, which was not practiced during WWII.

I made a note on 1917 about trigger discipline in WWI, so I think it's worth mentioning; just don't come off as overly critical though. This image from HBO's Chernobyl portrays a similar issue as these Soviet guards should have held their rifles muzzle-up, not down.

I think though that actors are instructed to use modern techniques for safety reasons on set, and that probably takes precedence over historical accuracy.--AgentGumby (talk) 23:40, 9 February 2021 (EST)

Interesting. On that note, when did trigger discipline become a thing? (Theakker3 (talk) 01:31, 10 February 2021 (EST))

I think that the bigger reason for modern techniques is the fact that the military consultants training the actors wiil themselves have been trained in modern techniques, so that is how they train others. There aren't too many WWII veterens curently in the military consulting game that can share their period correct training. I imagine that there is a slight safety element to the trigger discipline thing on set, but to be frank actors are not to be trusted so if there is a situation that relies on their trigger discipline for the safety of the cast and crew you are asking for trouble. As for when trigger discipline started to really become a thing, I think you could point to the mid 70s when Jeff Cooper started to teach his modern technique with the four rules of safety. I think that it still took a decade to make its way firmly into standard military practice though. --commando552 (talk) 11:34, 10 February 2021 (EST)

Can't ID the taser used

Right here in this page. Having trouble. Ominae (talk) 07:12, 11 February 2021 (EST)

X26P I think. --commando552 (talk) 15:50, 11 February 2021 (EST)

Doesn't look as big as an X2/X3 from the front. I concur it is more like a X26P. StanTheMan (talk) 23:05, 11 February 2021 (EST)

pistol ID

it is never unholstered, so i can't get any better image

TheExplodingBarrel (talk) 14:51, 12 February 2021 (EST)

M1 bayonets wrongly identified?

Hey folks.

Posting the stuff here (M7) and here (WWII M1 Bayonet). Not sure if they're IDed right. Ominae (talk) 07:50, 13 February 2021 (EST)