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| − | =Happy New Year!= | + | ==Happy 2023== |
| − | Say hello to 2021!--[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 03:07, 1 January 2021 (EST)
| + | Happy New Year's to all. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 21:36, 1 January 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | :Cheers, everybody! Here's hoping that 2021 goes better than 2020. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 12:20, 1 January 2021 (EST)
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| − | ::Same to you. Fingers crossed. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 01:30, 2 January 2021 (EST)
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| − | ::Amen to that. --[[User:Dan San|Dan San]] ([[User talk:Dan San|talk]]) 13:29, 2 January 2021 (EST)
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| − | == Need help classifying something == | + | == I guess, I made ID of Thark Rifle in John Carter movie == |
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| − | So, I've been working on a side-project for a while, and in the process, I've added a fair few new gun images to the site. Normally, I'd just put them on the appropriate gun page, or on the relevant category page if it doesn't have a page of its own. Problem, is, I just added this:
| + | At the ''[[John Carter (2012)|John Carter]]'' movie, most Tharks (Green Martian clan) use Thark Martian rifles. Of course, it was futurised guns, but, after closing inspection of the original movie props, I notice, that's this futusistic rifles were made from [[Tanegashima]]s (of course, a modern replicas). For proving this guess, I made a photoshoping compilation of the movie props and modern Tanegashima replica. So, I guess, that's useful to ID the gun as Tanegashma. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 13:42, 15 January 2023 (UTC) |
| − | [[File:6P62.jpg|thumb|none|450px|6P62 - 12.7x108mm]] | + | [[Image:Thark rifle photoshop.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A photoshoping compilation of the movie props and modern Tanegashima replica. The serpent for the match and closing powderbox (1), which is almost similar on the Tanegashima and Thark rifle. The pistol-grip buttstock (2) which is also almost similar. Of course, the movie prop is equipped with some part of other guns (percussion hammer) as well as some junks, to look more futuristic, as well, it's sawn in half, but the basing gun is Tanegashima.]] |
| − | This here is, as the caption suggests, a 6P62. It's a Russian prototype, it's chambered in 12.7x108mm, and it's full-auto. It was never meant for long-range use (you can't find an image of this thing online with a scope, and it'd probably beat one to death if you tried), so it can't go under Sniper Rifles; it's full-auto, so it can't go with the Semi-Auto Rifles, it fires a round too big to be an Assault Rifle, Battle Rifle, or Light Machine Gun, and it's a man-portable, non-fixed-mounted gun, so it can't be a Heavy Machine Gun either. Where should I put this thing? [[User:BrandonColeford1992|BrandonColeford1992]] ([[User talk:BrandonColeford1992|talk]]) 02:25, 5 January 2021 (EST)
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| − | :Miscellaneous section of the rifle category maybe?--[[User:Aidoru|Aidoru]] ([[User talk:Aidoru|talk]]) 02:39, 5 January 2021 (EST)
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| − | ::It was originally intended as a "Ручной крупнокалиберный пулемёт 6П62" (Handheld Large-Caliber Machine Gun 6P62), so we can specify it as a machine gun [[User:Pustelga7|Pustelga7]] ([[User talk:Pustelga7|talk]]) 03:59, 5 January 2021 (EST)
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| − | :::At some point, I had a discussion with someone else here regarding this gun. It can go to the machine gun category. It seems to be rare case of a heavy machine gun that is actually man-portable. Sometimes it's also referred to as an anti-materiel rifle; if we choose this one, we can simply list it under the general "Rifles" category. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 07:20, 5 January 2021 (EST)
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| − | ::::See, I don't really think we can put it in "Rifles", since there's no subcategory for full-auto rifles, and creating one would just result in a big mish-mash of all the assault rifles and select-fire battle rifles. I could get behind calling it an HMG, but I'd still call it a bit strange given that it's a gun one person can (ostensibly) pick up and fire. Maybe we could create a dedicated Anti-Materiel Rifle category? Sure, it would contain a bunch of guns that are already in the Sniper Rifle category, but then again, we have separate categories for Grenade Launchers and UBGLs, so it's not like it'd be unprecedented. Plus, this way we could remove the AT rifles from the Sniper Rifle category, since they really don't fit the bill. Oh, and speaking of AT, I have another discussion to write in. [[User:BrandonColeford1992|BrandonColeford1992]] ([[User talk:BrandonColeford1992|talk]]) 01:08, 6 January 2021 (EST) | |
| − | ::::: Then just put it in the machine gun category.--[[User:Wuzh|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh|talk]]) 00:07, 7 January 2021 (EST)
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| − | ::::::Fair enough. Still think that the AMR category idea holds some water, though. [[User:BrandonColeford1992|BrandonColeford1992]] ([[User talk:BrandonColeford1992|talk]]) 01:20, 7 January 2021 (EST)
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| − | == Category Proposals == | + | ==Smiling Friends page?== |
| | + | The western animation series Smiling Friends has quite a few realistically-drawn firearms which I documented on my sandbox [[User:Dnkakusei/Sandbox#Smiling_Friends_.5B2022-ongoing.2C_USA.5D|here]]. I would just like to know if the show qualifies for a page on this site. --[[User:Dnkakusei|Dnkakusei]] ([[User talk:Dnkakusei|talk]]) 13:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | How about a category for films in the US National Film Registry? As iconic films, these are likely among the first articles a newcomer would check, and their cultural importance makes documenting them of particular note. Of lesser note, we have at least four films (''[[Operation Kid Brother]]'', ''[[Per Aspera Ad Astra (Cherez ternii k zvyozdam)|Per Aspera Ad Astra]]'', ''[[Diabolik]]'', ''[[Invasion USA (1952)|Invasion USA]]'') that have been featured on ''Mystery Science Theater 3000'', and there are many, many more films it featured that could have an article in the future. Should a category for one or both be added? --[[User:VladVladson|VladVladson]] ([[User talk:VladVladson|talk]]) 00:21, 19 January 2021 (EST)
| + | == Delete category backlog == |
| − | :[[National Film Registry]]. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 01:22, 19 January 2021 (EST)
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| − | == Discord ==
| + | Just want to holler at the mod/s just in case. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 07:56, 12 February 2023 (UTC) |
| | + | : Got more screenshots from Detective Conan marked for deletion since Netflix Japan's able to get remastered episodes out and I'm slowly using them to update pages here. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 01:19, 3 March 2023 (UTC) |
| | + | :: Got more stuff for deletion. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 06:52, 6 July 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | I've made one. Feel free to float any suggestions/improvements by me; if you're a moderator here, let me know on my talk page and I'll set you up as one there (should you so desire). Rules aren't that much of an issue; generally speaking, if it wouldn't fly here, it won't fly there.
| + | == Blue Muzzle Flashes == |
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| − | So, if you so desire, [https://discord.gg/w2aRKyZmpJ hop on in.]
| + | Something I have noticed with classic action films, mostly within the 80's era, is that a lot of muzzle flashes appear more blue than yellow. Did this have something to do with the type of blanks/props that were being used back then, or was this just a result of 1980's cinematography? --[[User:Theakker3|Theakker3]] ([[User talk:Theakker3|talk]]) 12:40, 28 March 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | Lemme know what you guys think - like I said, I'm open to suggestions. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 16:42, 21 January 2021 (EST)
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| − | == To Catch A Predator page == | + | == Monsters vs Aliens? == |
| − | Would anyone be opposed to a page for To Catch A Predator with Chris Hansen? Strange idea but the show did feature a lot of firearms, mostly used by police, but also in the cars of some predators. ([[User:Theakker3|Theakker3]] ([[User talk:Theakker3|talk]]) 20:55, 24 January 2021 (EST))
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| − | :Before we begin, why don't you have a seat right over there? But, anyway, there's a rule against pages for documentaries on this site, but we'll have to see if an admin is okay on allowing a TCAP page.
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| − | :On another note, I do remember trying to identify the guns used on this show. The police mostly carried full-sized Glocks, one predator had a compact Glock of some sort found in his car, another one had what looks like a Mossberg 500 found in his car, a picture of which you included here. And then there was that guy who had several guns in his car (also seen here). I think it would be a cool page to have, but again, up to the admins. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 21:30, 24 January 2021 (EST)
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| − | :: Docs and reality-type shows and the like are unilaterally disallowed as far as I'm aware. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 21:47, 24 January 2021 (EST)
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| − | ::: Would you guys be willing to consider this one? ([[User:Theakker3|Theakker3]] ([[User talk:Theakker3|talk]]) 15:17, 28 January 2021 (EST))
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| − | ::::No, this would not be eligible. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 20:23, 29 January 2021 (EST)
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| − | == Grandpa Simpson's gun ==
| + | Should we add a page about Monsters vs Aliens, the movie has some detailed guns like the M4 Carbine |
| − | I know we don't do pages for cartoons but I was watching The Simpsons, 'Who Shot Mr. Burns? Part 1' and there is a scene that depicts a fairly detailed revolver (as far as Simpsons animation goes) that looks like it might have been copied from an actual gun. While Bart helps Grandpa unpack, he opens a cigar box that contains an old revolver that Grandpa refers to as his "old Smith and Wesson". Does this resemble any Smith & Wesson model? ([[User:Theakker3|Theakker3]] ([[User talk:Theakker3|talk]]) 01:28, 3 February 2021 (EST))
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| − | [[File:Simpsons S&W 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bart finds Grandpa's "old Smith & Wesson".]]
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| − | [[File:Simpsons S&W 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"If you're going to play with it, be careful, because it's loaded."]]
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| − | :Inspired by [[Remington 1875]]. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 02:19, 3 February 2021 (EST)
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| − | [[Image:Rem1875.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 1875 - .45 Long Colt.]]
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| − | == Weapons Handling == | + | == Prodigal Son - Season 2, Unknown semi-auto pistol == |
| − | Are notes regarding the way actors and extras are handling their weapons welcome on certain images? I have noticed a lot of WWII movies where the actors incorrectly hold or move with their weapons like they are a modern-day soldier securing a room with an M4. Soldiers were not trained to move that way during WWII. Without shinning too much light on it, is it ok to point this out in certain images where it is very noticeable? ([[User:Theakker3|Theakker3]] ([[User talk:Theakker3|talk]]) 22:19, 9 February 2021 (EST))
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| − | [[File:Hacksaw Carbine 3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Captain Glover ([[Sam Worthington]]) in '''Hacksaw Ridge''' with his M1 Carbine. He holds it in the low-ready stance, which was not practiced during WWII.]]
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| − | :I made a note on [[1917]] about trigger discipline in WWI, so I think it's worth mentioning; just don't come off as overly critical though. This image from HBO's [[Chernobyl]] portrays a similar issue as these Soviet guards should have held their rifles muzzle-up, not down.
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| − | [[File:ChernobylAK1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|]] I think though that actors are instructed to use modern techniques for safety reasons on set, and that probably takes precedence over historical accuracy.--[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:40, 9 February 2021 (EST)
| + | I believe have a positive ID on the "unknown" semi-auto pistol listed for Prodigal Son - Season 2. |
| − | ::Interesting. On that note, when did trigger discipline become a thing? ([[User:Theakker3|Theakker3]] ([[User talk:Theakker3|talk]]) 01:31, 10 February 2021 (EST))
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| − | :::I think that the bigger reason for modern techniques is the fact that the military consultants training the actors wiil themselves have been trained in modern techniques, so that is how they train others. There aren't too many WWII veterens curently in the military consulting game that can share their period correct training. I imagine that there is a slight safety element to the trigger discipline thing on set, but to be frank actors are not to be trusted so if there is a situation that relies on their trigger discipline for the safety of the cast and crew you are asking for trouble. As for when trigger discipline started to really become a thing, I think you could point to the mid 70s when Jeff Cooper started to teach his modern technique with the four rules of safety. I think that it still took a decade to make its way firmly into standard military practice though. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 11:34, 10 February 2021 (EST)
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| − | ==Can't ID the taser used==
| + | I requested an account specifically to help with this ID but I don't understand how to correctly add this info |
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| − | Right here [http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Prodigal_Son_-_Season_2 in this page]. Having trouble. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 07:12, 11 February 2021 (EST)
| + | If someone could vet this and add it, I'd appreciate it! |
| − | :X26P I think. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 15:50, 11 February 2021 (EST)
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| − | :: Doesn't look as big as an X2/X3 from the front. I concur it is more like a X26P. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 23:05, 11 February 2021 (EST)
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| − | ==pistol ID==
| + | Prodigal Son - S02E10, "Exit Strategy". At approx 34m:30s, Felix (spoiler: Clayton Fielder's twin) climbs a staircase while brandishing, then racking, a silver-tone semi-auto I identify as a TriStar P-120 (CZ75 clone). It's later seen several times from virtually every conceivable angle starting around 38:10. |
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| − | [[File:Hdtfhandgun-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|it is never unholstered, so i can't get any better image]] [[User:TheExplodingBarrel|TheExplodingBarrel]] ([[User talk:TheExplodingBarrel|talk]]) 14:51, 12 February 2021 (EST)
| + | :I checked it and I think you're right, so I did make all the necessary changes. By the way, don't forget to put your nickname and time in all discussions using 4 "~" at the end of each post. [[User:Pustelga7|Pustelga7]] ([[User talk:Pustelga7|talk]]) 15:30, 4 June 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | anyone? [[User:TheExplodingBarrel|TheExplodingBarrel]] ([[User talk:TheExplodingBarrel|talk]]) 17:26, 18 March 2021 (EDT)
| + | : Thank you! |
| − | :I think it is too vague and under-detailed for a positive ID, wouldn't lose any sleep over it.--[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 19:47, 18 March 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :Stechkin? --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 20:20, 18 March 2021 (EDT) | + | Therealnecroscope, 06:35, 6 June 2023 |
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| − | == M1 bayonets wrongly identified? ==
| + | (Testing nic/time) |
| | + | [[User:Therealnecroscope|Therealnecroscope]] ([[User talk:Therealnecroscope|talk]]) 10:35, 6 June 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | Hey folks.
| + | ==White M18 grenade== |
| | + | Are white M18 smoke grenade only seen in TV/movies/games? Been seeing some of those. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 17:34, 12 October 2023 (UTC) |
| | + | :I don't think they come in white IRL. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:12, 12 October 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | Posting the stuff [http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:M1_Garand_bayonet.jpg here (M7)] and [http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:M1_Garand_bayonet_second.jpg here (WWII M1 Bayonet)]. Not sure if they're IDed right. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 07:50, 13 February 2021 (EST)
| + | ==Stunt/action choreography for a director's page== |
| − | :For the proper identification of bayonets, I recommend [http://worldbayonets.com/Bayonet_Identification_Guide/bayonet_identification_guide.html worldbayonets.com], a good reference source. Hope it would be useful. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 05:21, 19 March 2021 (EDT)
| + | On the page for stunt choreographer and two-time film director [[Kensuke Sonomura]], I've added a list of films and games that he contributed stunt direction and choreography to. I'm planning on fully adding these productions to his category, but I was told to ask an admin first because stunt coordination is a pretty niche credit, however I believe that these productions should be added to his category as stunt and action sequences are vital and important parts of these films and games. Is it safe to add the pages? --[[User:Dnkakusei|Dnkakusei]] ([[User talk:Dnkakusei|talk]]) 12:50, 14 November 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | == Opinion on something == | + | ==Firearm citations without screen grabs?== |
| | + | I am new here, and I have not seen any guidelines about whether it's okay to cite a firearm in a movie listing without an associated screen grab. Is it better to have a weapon identified, even without a photo? ... or is it really better to make sure that each citation includes corresponding screen grabs? --[[User:226X5-9-TAC|226X5-9-TAC]] ([[User talk:226X5-9-TAC|talk]]) 23:02, 15 December 2023 (UTC). |
| | + | :First off, welcome aboard. As for your question, if it's a pre-existing page, then pointing out a specific gun that doesn't already have a screencap is fine, as long as you're specific about when and where it appears (though having a screencap is always preferable). If it's for a page that doesn't exist yet, we'd prefer not - we have an excess of pages without screencaps as-is. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 23:43, 15 December 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | Sorry I have to keep it short as I need to sleep now. I noted that Pustelga7 gives actor credits for characters from shows (at least) in an IMFDB page who doesn’t use a gun at all. I’m of the opinion that this is not needed and I made such edits in the Falcon and Winter Soldier page. I’m happy to be proven wrong though. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 11:58, 20 March 2021 (EDT)
| + | == Identifying revolver == |
| − | :Why not give such credits? Of course, red links are unnecessary until there is a possibility that the page for an actor can be created, but mentioning the actors isn't a bad thing. I think so. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 12:21, 20 March 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :Yes, hello again. I will immediately outline my point of view: I think it would be more correct if we indicate all the actors, regardless of their role and importance. However, there should not be a separate page for such actors. I always try to identify the actor if he is known. You can see that on the [[Fear the Walking Dead - Season 2|Fear the Walking Dead]] and partially [[WandaVision]] pages. [[User:Pustelga7|Pustelga7]] ([[User talk:Pustelga7|talk]]) 12:26, 20 March 2021 (EDT)
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| − | ::Yeah, crediting the relevant actors is totally fine (it's been commonly done anyway), there is absolutely no reason to remove them. Just leave them without hyperlinks if they haven't held a gun yet. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 12:54, 20 March 2021 (EDT)
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| − | ::: I guess if the mods say so, even if I haven’t seen that done in other pages. Not that it’ll change how I write stuff here. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 20:49, 20 March 2021 (EDT)
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| − | == An uncommon Thompson front sight ==
| + | What type of revolver is this? Film is from 1938. [[User:Theakker3|Theakker3]] ([[User talk:Theakker3|talk]]) 17:55, 22 December 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | A Thompson M1928A1 with hooded (!) front sight is seen in ''[[Soldier of Fortune (1955)]]''.
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| − | [[File:SoF-1955-Thompson-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The hooded front sight of a Thompson is seen.]] | + | : Not really a detailed enough shot to tell much. Appears to be a mid-size, .38 or therabouts. Ejector rod looks rather long which makes me think it has a socket, which would make it a S&W. If so, likely a Military & Police model. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 17:30, 23 December 2023 (UTC) |
| − | I couldn't find anything like it. Can anyone tell me if this is some kind of serial modification or something homemade? The movie was mostly filmed in Hong Kong, if this could help. Thanks! --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 14:12, 20 March 2021 (EDT)
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| − | : Hong Kong? Weren't copies produced in large quantity in China a bit before that? Might not be an "authentic" American made example. A slight change in sight style is ''nothing'' compared to the other oddities (pistols with bayonet lugs) that came out of China in that era. --[[User:VladVladson|VladVladson]] ([[User talk:VladVladson|talk]]) 19:52, 24 March 2021 (EDT) | |
| − | ::Possibly. I couldn't find any image of Chinese Thompson with such sights. All variants that are seen in both reference books and in internet are accurate copies of M1921/M1928 with only markings that reveal the manufacturer, or the 7.62mm convertion that has a distinct curved magazine. The screen gun, as it seems to me, has the front sight taken from MP40. So it's most likely a single piece rather than some serial version. Just my opinion. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 07:02, 25 March 2021 (EDT)
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| − | ==Update on nuked images== | + | ==NCIS Sydney== |
| | + | Should I wait until the episode/s airing in Australia in the last few weeks this month are accessible in Canada/US next month (January 2024) before screencapping, even though the show's backed by CBS and Paramount Plus? [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 10:05, 23 December 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | Just wanna holler it out there. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 10:54, 24 March 2021 (EDT)
| + | == Happy New Year! (2024) == |
| − | :There is a time <s>to throw away stones</s> to delete nuked images. But nobody knows when this time will come. Wait and hope. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 07:07, 25 March 2021 (EDT)
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| − | =="Prototype" category?==
| + | Happy New Year to all IMFDB and may this year be prolific in page editing too!--[[User:Dannyguns|Dannyguns]] ([[User talk:Dannyguns|talk]]) 08:57, 1 January 2024 (UTC) |
| − | We've [[Pancor Jackhammer|got]] [[Heckler & Koch G11|a lot]] [[Steyr ACR|prototypes]] [[Heckler & Koch XM29 Objective Individual Combat Weapon|that]] [[Metal Storm Weapons|never entered]] mass production ([[AK-12|or did yet have a prototype design appear everywhere]]) with a large number of appearances, some to the point they've made more media appearances than there were units produced. How about a category? Alternatively title could be something like "No Mass Production", which would include things like [[China Lake Launcher]] and [[Walther WA 2000]] (which were past prototype, but had very limited runs) and make Fictional Firearm into a subcategory of that (since almost all of them are physical props made in limited number, many functional enough to fire blanks). --[[User:VladVladson|VladVladson]] ([[User talk:VladVladson|talk]]) 19:52, 24 March 2021 (EDT)
| + | :Yeah, Happy New Year 2024, and pass the ammunition (and the page edits). May many new relevant pages be created too! --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] ([[User talk:Mazryonh|talk]]) 01:24, 2 January 2024 (UTC) |
| − | :Eh, I could see that becoming a bit of a problem - "No Mass Production" would be pretty arbitrary, since you'd have to define some exact number as "mass production", and even "prototype" is a bit of a gray area (since some prototypes saw actual combat use in field trials (or, in some cases like the French Resistance and some last-ditch Imperial Japanese efforts, simply saw use because guns of any sort were needed), with some prototypes being produced in larger numbers than some "production" guns for trials. Not to mention that we'd wind up including half of the gun articles on the site anyway, since there are many instances where a prototype version of a full-production gun gets an appearance - take, for example, the video game appearances of the Magpul Masada, or the MPX Copperhead prototype in JW3. It's a neat idea, but would be worth neither the effort nor the semantical debates in practice. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 20:46, 24 March 2021 (EDT) | |
| − | ::What's the point of such category? Categories for guns by type are useful in purpose of identification, but hardly anybody would specially search for prototypes. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 07:09, 25 March 2021 (EDT)
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| − | For reference, it's in the [http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Takeshi_Kitano Takeshi Kitano page] as an example since he's been mocapped/voiced by the guy in Yakuza 6. Not sure if it's okay to leave by itself. This kind of acting credit is kinda limited in the sense that it's a mixed bag. Other instances that I can think of is Quantum Break where the actors are mocapped and voiced by the same person. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 23:23, 29 March 2021 (EDT)
| + | Any idea what this is on the wall? [[User:Theakker3|Theakker3]] ([[User talk:Theakker3|talk]]) 02:28, 13 January 2024 (UTC) |
| − | :The text of the Actor Title template is the following: "''Actor'' can be seen using the following weapons in the following films (and television series)". So strictly speaking, the voicing of VGs or animations doesn't fall within the meaning of the actor's page. However, the case where the actor works for motion capture is possibly suitable for inclusion. This is my personal opinion, not an interpretation of the rules. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 13:23, 31 March 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :: I think 'XXXX '''can be seen''' ' is pretty unambiguous - If the actor him/herself is actually seen handling a gun, it counts. If not, then it don't. I don't think we need to nor should start expanding actor page credits beyond anything they don't visually portray. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 21:08, 31 March 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :On this subject, I previously included [[Andrew Bicknell]]'s role in ''Agent Under Fire'' on his page since he already had a page at the time and he was on (or at least model for) the cover. "Can be seen" gets a bit odd with characters that are explicitly and officially modeled after a real person as well as voiced by them. If we're going to talk about how it ''should'' be, I'd '''propose''' (emphasis) making it so it's fine to include mocap, (official) face sculpt model, and maybe voice acting '''if an actor already has a page for fully live action roles''', but not to create a new page if the actor doesn't have one already. The issue with that would be how to credit video game characters that can wind up using all kinds of different guns, but something like "Various" would be sufficient. --[[User:VladVladson|VladVladson]] ([[User talk:VladVladson|talk]]) 21:11, 31 March 2021 (EDT)
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| − | ::: I can agree with all but the last one. A distinct physical/aesthetic likeness is one thing, but voice-only credits don't merit inclusion, plain and simple. Existing page or no. Again, the actor him- or her-self needs to actually ''be seen'' with a firearm. I'm not seeing where this is open for interpretation, frankly. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 21:17, 31 March 2021 (EDT)
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| − | ::::So you'd be okay with it if the character uses the actor's likeness, such as the cases of [[Sam Witwer]] in ''[[Days Gone]]'' and [[Jim Pirri]] in ''Days Gone'' and ''[[Red Dead Redemption II]]''? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 21:53, 31 March 2021 (EDT)
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| − | ::::And as for the matter of listing which guns are used by them, I suggest we list any default ones (such as those seen wielded by them in cutscenes) first, then for the rest just use "Player's choice" like I've seen some other wikis do. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 22:11, 31 March 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :::::I recall that mocaps have been disallowed on actors/actresses pages (regarding video games and 3D animated films). And it makes sense, since technically the actors didn't hold the actual guns; it honestly doesn't matter whether their likeness and/or voice were used or not. That said, actor pages can have a video game entry if the game features live-action cutscenes with the actor physically holding a real weapon (such as in ''[[Need for Speed: Undercover]]''). --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 22:21, 31 March 2021 (EDT)
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| − | Yes, mo-cap and voicework is not eligible, but FMV is. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 01:30, 1 April 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :Guess I can make the edit on Takeshi Kitano's page. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 07:59, 1 April 2021 (EDT) | + | :Winchester Model 1895? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 05:20, 13 January 2024 (UTC) |
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| − | == Unknown Pistol from FaWS == | + | Any idea what could be [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YsvkUahKho this sight]? The mod appears to be Iraq War setting. --[[User:Nanomat|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat|talk]]) 02:29, 13 January 2024 (UTC) |
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| − | I decided to make a discussion here as well. We have an unknown pistol that no one can identify yet. There are some nice screenshots showing all the details clearly, but that doesn't help. And yes, this is not HK pistol (such as P30, HK45 or VP9). If anyone has ideas, please write. Additionally, if I do manage to attract attention, I will take a moment to ask more about this rifle.
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| − | [[File:FWS01E03 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | + | Anyone know this [https://imfdb.org/wiki/File:AGGA_04.jpg gun]? [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 16:15, 6 March 2024 (UTC) |
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| + | ==Changing name== |
| − | [[User:Pustelga7|Pustelga7]] ([[User talk:Pustelga7|talk]]) 08:56, 4 April 2021 (EDT) | + | Requesting to change the name of [https://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Pix1088569531.jpg this file] to something like Lawman Mk III Snubnose. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 12:38, 18 March 2024 (UTC) |
| − | :I think the pistol is a Arex Delta, and the rifle is a [[SIG SG 556 DMR]] with a French AC58 rifle grenade that is used with the FAMAS/HK416F.--[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 09:13, 4 April 2021 (EDT)
| + | :Done. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 15:04, 18 March 2024 (UTC) |
| − | :Actually, the pistol in the second image is a [[CZ P-10C]], I haven't seen the show but I assume it is a different scene from the first.--[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 09:21, 4 April 2021 (EDT) | + | ::Thanks @Funkychiaman. Don't know why that was locked. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 14:12, 20 April 2024 (UTC) |
| − | ::Oh yes, you are right. The second screen is really CZ. This means that character used two pistols during the gunfight. I checked the AREX pistol and I think it doesn't look like it. Yes, there are some similar parts, but these are different pistols. Now for the rifle. I think you are right and this is a SIG, but modified, since the forend and barrel are very different from the basic version. Many many thanks for the help. [[User:Pustelga7|Pustelga7]] ([[User talk:Pustelga7|talk]]) 09:54, 4 April 2021 (EDT) | + | |
| − | :::The rifle is just the 556 DMR with a different railed handguard, like this [https://www.gunsamerica.com/911557443/SIG-556-DMR.htm| one]. The barrel just looks like it was digitally manipulated for the rifle grenade.--[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 10:15, 4 April 2021 (EDT) | + | == Same FN MAG image == |
| − | ::::Okay, that makes sense. Thanks again. [[User:Pustelga7|Pustelga7]] ([[User talk:Pustelga7|talk]]) 10:23, 4 April 2021 (EDT)
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See Talk:Main Page/Archive 1, Talk:Main Page/Archive 2, Talk:Main Page/Archive 3, Talk:Main Page/Archive 4, Talk:Main Page/Archive 5, Talk:Main Page/Archive 6, Talk:Main Page/Archive 7, Talk:Main Page/Archive 8, Talk:Main Page/Archive 9, Talk:Main Page/Archive 10, Talk:Main Page/Archive 11, Talk:Main Page/Archive 12 for older discussions:
Happy 2023
Happy New Year's to all. --Ben41 (talk) 21:36, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
I guess, I made ID of Thark Rifle in John Carter movie
At the John Carter movie, most Tharks (Green Martian clan) use Thark Martian rifles. Of course, it was futurised guns, but, after closing inspection of the original movie props, I notice, that's this futusistic rifles were made from Tanegashimas (of course, a modern replicas). For proving this guess, I made a photoshoping compilation of the movie props and modern Tanegashima replica. So, I guess, that's useful to ID the gun as Tanegashma. Pyramid Silent (talk) 13:42, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
A photoshoping compilation of the movie props and modern Tanegashima replica. The serpent for the match and closing powderbox (1), which is almost similar on the Tanegashima and Thark rifle. The pistol-grip buttstock (2) which is also almost similar. Of course, the movie prop is equipped with some part of other guns (percussion hammer) as well as some junks, to look more futuristic, as well, it's sawn in half, but the basing gun is Tanegashima.
Smiling Friends page?
The western animation series Smiling Friends has quite a few realistically-drawn firearms which I documented on my sandbox here. I would just like to know if the show qualifies for a page on this site. --Dnkakusei (talk) 13:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
Delete category backlog
Just want to holler at the mod/s just in case. Ominae (talk) 07:56, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Got more screenshots from Detective Conan marked for deletion since Netflix Japan's able to get remastered episodes out and I'm slowly using them to update pages here. Ominae (talk) 01:19, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- Got more stuff for deletion. Ominae (talk) 06:52, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
Blue Muzzle Flashes
Something I have noticed with classic action films, mostly within the 80's era, is that a lot of muzzle flashes appear more blue than yellow. Did this have something to do with the type of blanks/props that were being used back then, or was this just a result of 1980's cinematography? --Theakker3 (talk) 12:40, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
Monsters vs Aliens?
Should we add a page about Monsters vs Aliens, the movie has some detailed guns like the M4 Carbine
Prodigal Son - Season 2, Unknown semi-auto pistol
I believe have a positive ID on the "unknown" semi-auto pistol listed for Prodigal Son - Season 2.
I requested an account specifically to help with this ID but I don't understand how to correctly add this info
If someone could vet this and add it, I'd appreciate it!
Prodigal Son - S02E10, "Exit Strategy". At approx 34m:30s, Felix (spoiler: Clayton Fielder's twin) climbs a staircase while brandishing, then racking, a silver-tone semi-auto I identify as a TriStar P-120 (CZ75 clone). It's later seen several times from virtually every conceivable angle starting around 38:10.
- I checked it and I think you're right, so I did make all the necessary changes. By the way, don't forget to put your nickname and time in all discussions using 4 "~" at the end of each post. Pustelga7 (talk) 15:30, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you!
Therealnecroscope, 06:35, 6 June 2023
(Testing nic/time)
Therealnecroscope (talk) 10:35, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
White M18 grenade
Are white M18 smoke grenade only seen in TV/movies/games? Been seeing some of those. Ominae (talk) 17:34, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- I don't think they come in white IRL. --Funkychinaman (talk) 18:12, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
Stunt/action choreography for a director's page
On the page for stunt choreographer and two-time film director Kensuke Sonomura, I've added a list of films and games that he contributed stunt direction and choreography to. I'm planning on fully adding these productions to his category, but I was told to ask an admin first because stunt coordination is a pretty niche credit, however I believe that these productions should be added to his category as stunt and action sequences are vital and important parts of these films and games. Is it safe to add the pages? --Dnkakusei (talk) 12:50, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
Firearm citations without screen grabs?
I am new here, and I have not seen any guidelines about whether it's okay to cite a firearm in a movie listing without an associated screen grab. Is it better to have a weapon identified, even without a photo? ... or is it really better to make sure that each citation includes corresponding screen grabs? --226X5-9-TAC (talk) 23:02, 15 December 2023 (UTC).
- First off, welcome aboard. As for your question, if it's a pre-existing page, then pointing out a specific gun that doesn't already have a screencap is fine, as long as you're specific about when and where it appears (though having a screencap is always preferable). If it's for a page that doesn't exist yet, we'd prefer not - we have an excess of pages without screencaps as-is. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 23:43, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
Identifying revolver
What type of revolver is this? Film is from 1938. Theakker3 (talk) 17:55, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- Not really a detailed enough shot to tell much. Appears to be a mid-size, .38 or therabouts. Ejector rod looks rather long which makes me think it has a socket, which would make it a S&W. If so, likely a Military & Police model. StanTheMan (talk) 17:30, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
NCIS Sydney
Should I wait until the episode/s airing in Australia in the last few weeks this month are accessible in Canada/US next month (January 2024) before screencapping, even though the show's backed by CBS and Paramount Plus? Ominae (talk) 10:05, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
Happy New Year! (2024)
Happy New Year to all IMFDB and may this year be prolific in page editing too!--Dannyguns (talk) 08:57, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, Happy New Year 2024, and pass the ammunition (and the page edits). May many new relevant pages be created too! --Mazryonh (talk) 01:24, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
Identifying Rifle (or shotgun) on Wall
Any idea what this is on the wall? Theakker3 (talk) 02:28, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Winchester Model 1895? --Funkychinaman (talk) 05:20, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
Optical sight ID???
Any idea what could be this sight? The mod appears to be Iraq War setting. --Nanomat (talk) 02:29, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
Paintball gun
Anyone know this gun? Ominae (talk) 16:15, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
Changing name
Requesting to change the name of this file to something like Lawman Mk III Snubnose. Ominae (talk) 12:38, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Done. --Funkychinaman (talk) 15:04, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks @Funkychiaman. Don't know why that was locked. Ominae (talk) 14:12, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Same FN MAG image
I notice that these two images are the same:
https://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:FNMAG.jpg
https://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Mag58postb.jpg
Ominae (talk) 14:13, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
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