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'''WORK IN PROGRESS'''
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==Suggestions==
[[File:JJBA S1 Cover.jpg|thumb|right|300px|JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (S1) - 2012-2013]]
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This is going to be long soon. I suggest splitting it up at least. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 04:42, 21 March 2020 (EDT)
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:How do you believe the page should be separated? Should it be split into parts, as it is now? Or should the pages be divided based on seasons, like other television shows on this site? [[User:BitesTheDust|BitesTheDust]] ([[User talk:BitesTheDust|talk]]) 01:27, 22 March 2020 (EDT)
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::Haven't been back here. But yeah, dividing it by seasons would work. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 04:02, 7 May 2020 (EDT)
  
{{Anime Title|JoJo's Bizarre Adventure}}
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== Smith & Wesson Model 30 ==
  
=Part 1: ''Phantom Blood''=
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The pistol used by Guido Mista looks to incorporate parts of the Smith & Wesson 36, or some variant, along with the Colt Detective line of revolvers to me. Since that line of revolvers could be ordered from the factory with hammer shrouds, detective, agent, cobra. Here's a screenshot of a closeup... https://i.imgur.com/uZyTXA9.png I just wanted to get consensus before altering the page since I mainly only do grammar corrections. [[User:IRMacGuyver|IRMacGuyver]] ([[User talk:IRMacGuyver|talk]]) 19:38, 5 May 2020 (EDT)
==Webley RIC==
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:Mista's revolver is a Model 30, as it features an I frame and a 6-shot cylinder. It cannot be a Model 36, since the Model 36 has a 5-shot cylinder. The hammer shroud is most likely an aftermarket component, as aftermarket hammer shrouds can be purchased for such revolvers, and the Mista's revolver is implied to be customized to some degree given its finish and close association with the character. [[User:BitesTheDust|BitesTheDust]] ([[User talk:BitesTheDust|talk]]) 23:41, 5 May 2020 (EDT)
British police officers in the intro sequence and in Episode 3 ("Youth With Dio") use late-model [[Webley RIC]] revolvers. Jonathan Joestar and Robert Speedwagon also commandeer these revolvers.
 
[[File:Webley RIC New Model.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Webley RIC No. 1 New Model with 4.5" barrel - .476 Enfield]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1 OP1.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|British police officers fire their revolvers in the OP sequence, "JoJo ~A Fate Determined By His Blood~".]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1 OP.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|A slightly later frame, showing the flying bullets.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1 OP2.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|These bullets are rendered somewhat oddly, being shown with a full brass jacket and a dimple on the exposed lead at the base. They may have been partially drawn based on unfired cartridges.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E3 1.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|The police officers open fire on Dio. Note the onomatopoeia, a staple of the series.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E3 2.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|The policemen hold their revolvers in the background.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E3 3.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up shot of one of the revolvers, as Jonathan reaches to grab it.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E3 4.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Jonathan holds the revolver on Dio.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E3 5.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up shot of the revolver's trigger.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E3 6.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Dio presses his face into the revolver's muzzle.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E3 7.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Speedwagon fires another commandeered revolver.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E3 8.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Jonathan and Speedwagon hold their revolvers.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E3 9.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Speedwagon holds his revolver.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E3 10.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Speedwagon and the two remaining police officers aim their revolvers.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E3 11.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|A dead police officer drops his revolver in front of Speedwagon.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E3 12.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|A later frame, giving a different view of the revolver.]]
 
 
 
=Part 2: ''Battle Tendency''=
 
==Colt Official Police==
 
In Episode 10 ("New York's JoJo"), one of the two New York City police officers wields what appears to be a [[Colt Official Police]] revolver.
 
[[File:ColtOP4.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt Official Police with 4" barrel - .38 Special]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E10 1.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|The police officer draws his revolver.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E10 2.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Another view of the revolver. The muzzle appears somewhat oversized, though this is likely an issue of perspective.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E10 3.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up shot of the hammer moving backwards as the policeman pulls the trigger.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E10 4.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|A shot of the frame as Joseph's bottlecap flies towards the policeman's finger.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E10 5.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot, giving a good view of the revolver's frame.]]
 
 
 
==Webley Mk VI==
 
In Robert Speedwagon's flashback in Episode 10, one of the hijackers onboard Speedwagon's airplane wields a revolver, seemingly a [[Webley Mk VI]].
 
[[File:Webley Mk VI.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Webley Mk VI - .455 Webley]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E10 11.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|The hijacker points his revolver at Joseph.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E10 12.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Another view of the revolver.]]
 
 
 
==M1A1 Thompson==
 
The other two hijackers use [[M1A1 Thompson]] submachine guns without handguards. Seeing as this scene takes place in 1933, the M1A1 is anachronistic.
 
[[File:M1sb.jpg|thumb|none|450px|M1A1 Thompson - .45 ACP]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E10 6.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|The hijacker points his Thompson at Joseph.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E10 7.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|The third hijacker in the background with his Thompson.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E10 8.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|A full view of the submachine gun's profile.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E10 9.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|The hijacker hits Joseph in the face with his Thompson.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E10 10.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|The two other hijackers watch, with the one in the middle holding his M1A1 vertical.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E10 12.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|The rear hijacker points his Thompson at Joseph.]]
 
 
 
==M1928 Thompson==
 
At the end of Episode 10 and the beginning of Episode 11 ("The Game Master"), Joseph Joestar uses an [[M1928 Thompson]] submachine gun with a 50-round drum magazine against Straizo.
 
[[File:M1928.jpg|thumb|none|450px|M1928 Thompson with 50-round drum magazine - .45 ACP]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 1.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Joseph draws his M1928 Thompson. It isn't clear where he was carrying it.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 2.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Joseph fires the Thompson.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 3.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Another view. Note the star-shaped muzzle flash, inconsistent with the M1928's Cutts compensator.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 4.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up shot of the submachine gun's ejection port.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 5.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Joseph firing the submachine gun, while Smokey Brown asks a rhetorical question.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 6.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Another frame from the stitched shot above.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 7.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Joseph ceases firing. Note how there are bullet impacts at the base of the window; it isn't clear how or why Joseph would shoot there.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 8.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Joseph holding his Thompson upright while standing at the window.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 9.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Joseph kicks a table while holding his Thompson.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 10.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Joseph holds the weapon towards the ground while ignoring Smokey next to him.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 11.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Joseph inspects a fired .45 ACP bullet.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 12.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Smokey and Joseph react to Straizo standing up.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 13.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Joseph with his Thompson listening to Straizo. Note how the stock is colored black in this frame.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 14.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|A dramatic shot of Joseph with his M1928.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 15.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the muzzle.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 16.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Another close-up shot, showing the trigger; the weapon clicks empty as Joseph attempts to fire it.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 17.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Joseph grabs his Thompson by the barrel.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 18.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|He lifts the weapon over his head.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 19.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|He then swings it. Due to this being an intermediary frame, the stock is blurry, and the barrel is bent.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 20.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Joseph's strike hitting Straizo.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 21.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Straizo getting sent through a window by Joseph's stock-bash.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 22.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Joseph attempting to finish Straizo by channeling Hamon through his Thompson.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 23.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Another frame from the above scene.]]
 
 
 
==Mk 2 hand grenade==
 
After failing to kill Straizo with his Thompson, Joseph uses several [[Mk 2 hand grenade]]s against Straizo.
 
[[File:MK2 grenade DoD.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Mk 2 hand grenade]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 24.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Joseph reveals the Mk 2 hand grenade hidden in Straizo's scarf.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 25.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up shot of the pin being removed from the grenade.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 26.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|Straizo removes the grenade from his scarf.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 27.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|He then hits it away.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 28.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up shot of the grenade, revealing several wires tucked under the fuse assembly.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 29.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|A later frame, showing how these wires are connected to several pins.]]
 
[[File:JJBA S1E11 30.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|These pins were attached to the eight additional grenades hidden in Straizo's scarf. As with the Thompson, it isn't clear where Joseph was hiding these.]]
 

Latest revision as of 03:42, 8 May 2020

Suggestions

This is going to be long soon. I suggest splitting it up at least. Ominae (talk) 04:42, 21 March 2020 (EDT)

How do you believe the page should be separated? Should it be split into parts, as it is now? Or should the pages be divided based on seasons, like other television shows on this site? BitesTheDust (talk) 01:27, 22 March 2020 (EDT)
Haven't been back here. But yeah, dividing it by seasons would work. Ominae (talk) 04:02, 7 May 2020 (EDT)

Smith & Wesson Model 30

The pistol used by Guido Mista looks to incorporate parts of the Smith & Wesson 36, or some variant, along with the Colt Detective line of revolvers to me. Since that line of revolvers could be ordered from the factory with hammer shrouds, detective, agent, cobra. Here's a screenshot of a closeup... https://i.imgur.com/uZyTXA9.png I just wanted to get consensus before altering the page since I mainly only do grammar corrections. IRMacGuyver (talk) 19:38, 5 May 2020 (EDT)

Mista's revolver is a Model 30, as it features an I frame and a 6-shot cylinder. It cannot be a Model 36, since the Model 36 has a 5-shot cylinder. The hammer shroud is most likely an aftermarket component, as aftermarket hammer shrouds can be purchased for such revolvers, and the Mista's revolver is implied to be customized to some degree given its finish and close association with the character. BitesTheDust (talk) 23:41, 5 May 2020 (EDT)

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