Talk:Izhmash PP-19

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PP-19-01 "Vityaz" - 9x19mm

PP-19-01 "Vityaz-SN" with Zenit accessories - 9x19mm

Discussion

Vityaz is a derivative of Izhmash PP-19 Bizon, it differs only in replacing of a helical-feed magazine with a more common stick magazine. I think that Vityaz must be merged into Bizon page which in turn be renamed into "Izhmash PP-19" with subheaders "PP-19 Bizon" and "PP-19-01 Vityaz". Greg-Z (talk) 22:03, 19 February 2014 (EST)

Sounds good. --Funkychinaman (talk) 23:47, 19 February 2014 (EST)

Well at least it didn't quite take four years to do that :D Evil Tim (talk) 12:40, 18 February 2018 (EST)

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Discussion

Doesn't this gun appear in a fictional variant form in Killzone 2? http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u76/Edizzle8002/killzonesmg11fu2.jpg

Judging from the reciever and sights, it looks more like some Uzi with the grip moved back and a helical magazine whacked in. Kinda ugly IMO.

Images

Images of looks to be every PP-19 version here: http://bbs.a9vg.com/thread-1157089-1-1.html

The Tokarev version with the curved mag and the 10-round .380 ACP mag are at the bottom of the first post. Evil Tim 07:18, 17 June 2011 (CDT)

Bizon-2 with side-folding stock

PP-19 Bizon-2 with side-folding stock - 9x18mm Makarov

All video games/anime listed in the PP-19 Bizon-2 section of the article feature a PP-19 Bizon-2 with the early PP-19 stock, not the top-folding stock seen in the image in the article. The image that I've inserted above shows the variant I'm talking about (here chambered in 9x18mm Makarov). Is it a specific variant or a simple Bizon-2 with an early stock? Anyway I guess this image should replace the one seen in the page for the Bizon-2.--Ultimate94ninja (talk) 04:23, 25 August 2013 (EDT)

There is an image that shows a Bizon-2 with a side-folding stock, it is just in folded position. We had no image of a Bizon-2 with the side-folding stock extended. Until now. --bozitojugg3rn4ut (talk) 05:21, 25 August 2013 (EDT)