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I know you can have specific shotguns, but they don't allow .22 rifles anymore since the 70s. I'm just saying that you would not be allow to have an AR-10 or a Springfield M1A1 even if you are a cop. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:29, 9 July 2010 (UTC) | I know you can have specific shotguns, but they don't allow .22 rifles anymore since the 70s. I'm just saying that you would not be allow to have an AR-10 or a Springfield M1A1 even if you are a cop. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 13:29, 9 July 2010 (UTC) | ||
+ | : Well, [http://kotaku.com/legally-owning-a-gun-in-japan-is-really-really-hard-1479865283 Japan definitely use shotgun for hunting/sporting purposes]. But if Japan don't allow .22 since 70s, then can anyone tell me when does .22 rifles are permitted again for sporting purpose? Because I watched [http://youtu.be/aVCMbQdHPrE?t=3m12s this video] and this university shooting club is definitely using rifles with .22 caliber. [[User:Johnny Akiba|Johnny Akiba]] ([[User talk:Johnny Akiba|talk]]) 18:53, 14 November 2014 (EST) | ||
For the record "M1A1" is not the correct designation, they are simply called M1As. That being said, the terminology that I've seen in the manga strips is a tad forced and inaccurate, and it's drained a lot of the hype every one of my anime loving friends has displayed. I will have to watch it at some point, though, I'm just not as excited. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 05:33, 18 July 2010 (UTC) | For the record "M1A1" is not the correct designation, they are simply called M1As. That being said, the terminology that I've seen in the manga strips is a tad forced and inaccurate, and it's drained a lot of the hype every one of my anime loving friends has displayed. I will have to watch it at some point, though, I'm just not as excited. --[[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 05:33, 18 July 2010 (UTC) | ||
+ | ::If you like a show that is all about just tits and asses and zombies and barely a plot to string it along...this is your show and it is so self aware of what it is...it's really fun to watch [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] ([[User talk:Excalibur01|talk]]) 00:03, 15 November 2014 (EST) | ||
== Guns that have yet to appear on air == | == Guns that have yet to appear on air == | ||
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:Despite the markings on the upper picture that is an SR-25. You can tell by the design of the lower receiver (The AR-10(T) receiver is flat sided). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:52, 18 March 2012 (CDT) | :Despite the markings on the upper picture that is an SR-25. You can tell by the design of the lower receiver (The AR-10(T) receiver is flat sided). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 18:52, 18 March 2012 (CDT) | ||
+ | ::So it's actually an SR-25 with incorrect markings on the left side only, which means Kohta originally thought it was an SR-25, before realizing it was an AR-10(T) fitted with aftermarket parts to resemble an SR-25... but it actually ''is'' an SR-25. That's bit circular. :/ [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 04:09, 15 April 2014 (EDT) | ||
== High School of the Dead, Hey! I just notice something! == | == High School of the Dead, Hey! I just notice something! == | ||
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+ | :Good catches. I'm getting the bluray shortly, so I'll comb through the intro (there are a ''lot'' of very fast shots) and get nice, high quality screenshots for the page soon, as well as a couple missed guns. Also, "Highschool" is supposed to be one word, can someone fix that? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 03:41, 15 April 2014 (EDT) | ||
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+ | ::Can anyone ID the middle rifle that looks AR-15-ish or the revolver that looks Python-ish? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 05:11, 26 July 2014 (EDT) | ||
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+ | :::So, if anyone can ID the those two and possibly that rifle/shotgun that looks like a Remington 1100, we're all good. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 03:39, 3 August 2014 (EDT) | ||
== M1A == | == M1A == | ||
So, I was trying to figure out how practical a replica of this would be, and I discovered a couple problems. First, full length bottom rails for M14s aren't a thing, so that would have to be custom-attached with drilling, I've seen pictures of it done and it's not exactly difficult, so this isn't a bug deal. The second problem is the cheek riser, it's the one from the [[M14 Rifle#M14 Designated Marksman Rifle|M14 DMR]]. In fact, it looks like the whole gun was based on the M14 DMR, especially since airsoft versions of it [http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/gandp-m14-dmr-aeg-olive-drab-2.html#.UyZ9gYUVBug commonly use the KAC RAS], but they just stuck a normal M14 stock on it to be an M1A. My question is, can the DMR cheek riser be bought as a standalone piece, either real or a replica? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 00:56, 17 March 2014 (EDT) | So, I was trying to figure out how practical a replica of this would be, and I discovered a couple problems. First, full length bottom rails for M14s aren't a thing, so that would have to be custom-attached with drilling, I've seen pictures of it done and it's not exactly difficult, so this isn't a bug deal. The second problem is the cheek riser, it's the one from the [[M14 Rifle#M14 Designated Marksman Rifle|M14 DMR]]. In fact, it looks like the whole gun was based on the M14 DMR, especially since airsoft versions of it [http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/gandp-m14-dmr-aeg-olive-drab-2.html#.UyZ9gYUVBug commonly use the KAC RAS], but they just stuck a normal M14 stock on it to be an M1A. My question is, can the DMR cheek riser be bought as a standalone piece, either real or a replica? [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 00:56, 17 March 2014 (EDT) |
Latest revision as of 05:03, 15 November 2014
New gun anime
Guess someone beat me to this and read the manga, too. I can't wait for them to show the PSG1, MP5s, M16s, and Galils. Excalibur01 17:58, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
Hell yeah! Though the over abundance on fanservice (I like T&A as much as the next guy but it gets annoying after the second dozen still) compared to the manga is rather distasteful. Also what M16s or Galils? The only assault rifles present in the manga thus far are M4s and Type 89s PraetorianD 06:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
I guess I must have mistaken a Type 89 for a Galil. It looked like one for a second and I coulda sworn I saw an M16. Excalibur01 14:12, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
The prefectural police SAT team all use Type 89F (with folding stock) as their assault weapon. Minami used a modified Type 89 with M4 style fore sight and RIS hand guard (which confused me at first). One of the Secret Service agents on board Air Force One used what appears to be M4 or CAR-15 carbine. The JGSDF special forces operator that appeared in Ch. 24 used some type of Type 89 carbine (not sure if it exist in real life).--Wildcards 21:49, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
At the rate this anime is showing each episode, we're probably not going to see the guns until episode 5 or 6 Excalibur01 21:53, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
In the manga one of the dead officer's had his gun held in a death grip, making it necessary for Rei to simply remove the bullets. In the anime they changed it to having a broken grip. Why the change? And how do you break a steel handle right off? Ballistics_Expert2
Well the grips themselves are wooden, so if the wood on the grip got broken off, it would make the gun very hard to shoot with and pretty much useless. And I swore in the manga, the reason was that the second revolver also had the grip broken off. That's the most likely excuse, but it look like the other officer's revolver has rubber grips on them. Also wondering is it SOP for patrol officers to only carry just a loaded weapon and no reloads. Excalibur01 02:16, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm also quite certain in the manga the second pistol was rendered useless by a broken grip. Well I can't say for sure, it wouldn't surprise me if Japanese officers carried no reloads, they seem to have a big emphasis not to use their firearms even resorting to bats and poles. PraetorianD 03:18, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Chapter 04, page 15, Rei specifically says that she couldn't get the other revolver out of the officer's hand, but the bullet's looked okay. Ballistics_Expert2
- My translation of that page was Rei said that "handle was broken, but the bullet should still work" Excalibur01 03:07, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
- I've actually seen both version in anime and manga translation, but I'm going to go with the handle being broken explaination. The reload rounds carried by the officers may have been unreachable since they are probably stuck between the bodies and the seats, that's probably why Rei only go for the guns themselves. I also find it funny that Takashi said TV taught him to keep his finger off the trigger, while in real life there are so many bad examples by the actors on TV/movies. --Wildcards 03:40, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
It's interesting. In the manga chapter 5, the Yakuza members are using over/under shotguns. But in the anime they're using Remington 870 pump actions. Ballistics_Expert2
From guessing, base on the manga chapters are structured and how the Anime adapts, I'd say we'd be seeing Minami in the next episode maybe and maybe the survivors would get to the house to bust out the guns Excalibur01 17:38, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
- They said this season will end at 12 episodes, so it would seem like it is going to end when they starting launching nukes at each other. Unless they completely changed the ending of course.--Wildcards 03:40, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Ah, that's bull. This series really needs to be much longer than that seeing how the manga is well pass that point anyway. Excalibur01 04:54, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Looks like episode 6 is where we get to see the SR-25, Ithaca 37 and the M1A Excalibur01 19:33, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Music?
Does anyone know the music used when Hisashi starts coming back to life and Takashi kills him? It's quite a common piece but have no idea what its called.
Thanks
- I thought it was just part of the Anime's soundtrack. Look it up on youtube. Excalibur01 14:13, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
I think it was in a recent zombie film possibly resident evil but i can't find it. It's driving me nuts... lol
Just found it. It's from 28 weeks later. In A Heartbeat by John Murphy
Thank you
Illegal after market parts
Saying that they found a gun that is illegal to have to begin with in Japan with "illegal aftermarket parts" is a bit of an oximoron. Since in possession of any firearm in Japan is illegal. Excalibur01 18:02, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
Not at all, that's a common misconception many foreigners have about Japan. You can have non-repeating rifles and shotguns for hunting/sporting purposes and .22 pistols for target shooting (pistols must be kept at the range though). It's just that the licences are limited in number, heavily regulated and strictly enforced. PraetorianD 08:46, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
I know you can have specific shotguns, but they don't allow .22 rifles anymore since the 70s. I'm just saying that you would not be allow to have an AR-10 or a Springfield M1A1 even if you are a cop. Excalibur01 13:29, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
- Well, Japan definitely use shotgun for hunting/sporting purposes. But if Japan don't allow .22 since 70s, then can anyone tell me when does .22 rifles are permitted again for sporting purpose? Because I watched this video and this university shooting club is definitely using rifles with .22 caliber. Johnny Akiba (talk) 18:53, 14 November 2014 (EST)
For the record "M1A1" is not the correct designation, they are simply called M1As. That being said, the terminology that I've seen in the manga strips is a tad forced and inaccurate, and it's drained a lot of the hype every one of my anime loving friends has displayed. I will have to watch it at some point, though, I'm just not as excited. --Yournamehere 05:33, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- If you like a show that is all about just tits and asses and zombies and barely a plot to string it along...this is your show and it is so self aware of what it is...it's really fun to watch Excalibur01 (talk) 00:03, 15 November 2014 (EST)
Guns that have yet to appear on air
Show we start posting guns that have not been shown yet, like the shotgun. We do see a PSG-1, MP5s, etc later on Excalibur01 21:02, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Trying again
I originally created this page before it was deleted on grounds of being a manga. Does the fact that it's an anime mean I can recreate the lost work?
So far, none of the guns have appeared on screen. Only in the title opening, so it's best to remove the manga images until these weapons really appear in the show. So until they do appear on air, do not post the manga images. It's the same rule that applied to Black Lagoon, which was a manga adopted anime. No manga images were done there either. Excalibur01 05:42, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
It's going to be hard getting updates for the page now. Anime Network had youtube take all the videos down on the grounds of copyright violation. Now we gotta pay a subscription fee to watch it on their site. Ballistics_Expert2
Well luckily for me, I know where to download the 720p verisons of the anime episodes. I mean, WHERE do you think these images came from? Seriously? Youtube ALWAYS put down videos. There are so many OTHER sites that won't do it, especially if it is anime related. Did you really think I got all my Black Lagoon screenshots from youtube videos? Excalibur01 21:56, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
We're going to need to replace the caps that are posted with ones without subs. The Chinese is a bit distracting. Excalibur01 14:26, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- I am going to try to screen cap with the DivX player sometime today. I can remove the caption, but the Japanese disclaimer rolling over the screen will still be there though, and the quality is not as good unfortunately...--Wildcards 17:42, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
If the quality you got isn't good, then I'm going to download a higher resolution version Excalibur01 16:25, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
MP5
Which episode and when exactly was the MP5 seen? Excalibur01 02:45, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Episode 4 and around the 7:55-8:00 mark, the shot isn't exactly the greatest. PraetorianD 04:04, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
A couple of riot police (they are not SATs since they wear riot gear) at the road block in Episode 4 were seen with SMGs fitted with Aimpoint scope gunning down approaching zombies. They should be MP5Fs since it's Japanese police standard issue, but drawing was kind of crude to properly ID the guns in the episode.--Wildcards 04:59, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Remember proper format so when you post a cap, it doesn't show up on the far right side of the screen Excalibur01 05:20, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
- Woops, thanks for fixing it.--Wildcards 05:23, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Too bad this series isn't long enough. In the recent chapter, they went to a police station and got a hold of an MP5 with a suppressor, a Beretta 92 Vertec and apparently an M1014 which Takashi replaces his current shotgun with.Excalibur01 14:22, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- I totally agree. Too bad they cut out the airport battle scene from the anime too (I was really looking forward to it too...at least the missile interception part was very well done...) I have some doubt about Takashi replacing his Itacha with the Benelli since he mainly use the gun as a melee weapon, I'm not sure if Benelli's extendable stock is such a good choice, not to mention if he can control the semi-auto firing properly. The Beretta is a little weird too since Japanese police tactical units seem to all use SIG pistols. There's also a bunch of TT-33 (or more like Type 54) that was picked up for them to decide their own fate when the time comes... Really looking forward to the next chapters.--Wildcards 19:35, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Well the M1014 is a lot heavier than the Ithaca, with the spikes at the muzzle so can could very well use it like that and if you've seen demos of this shotgun, the recoil is a lot less severe if he's using standard shells. If he's using magnum shells, there will be some recoil, but it is a very controllable shotgun. I was a bit weird out by the Beretta pistol. I think they should have take any pistol and given one to every girl. Rei doesn't have a backup at all. Excalibur01 02:43, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- I see... Thanks for clearing up the part on the Benelli. Rei would probably be more effective at fighting with the breacher than Takashi though. As for Beretta, I think that's just the excuse to give Saeko a new look...(did any one call fan service...lol)--Wildcards 22:31, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Fan service? The entire show is constant tits and ass. In an interview with the director of the series, he wanted every scene to have at least one shot of tits and ass. Excalibur01 02:01, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
- No argument there, but people do find Saeko with a leg holster even sexier.--Wildcards 06:06, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Well, turned out Japanese police actually do use Beretta 92 Vertec... Apparently the Metropolitan Police Department's Special Investigation Team and similar units in other prefectures do use Beretta 92 Vertec with tactical light as their sidearm. The firearms appearing in the series do appear to be well researched by the author...--Wildcards 10:27, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Except the little oversight about adding the extra "1" on M1A. I think it's just a typo because a lot of weapons that have A at the end of it is usually followed by another number, like M16A1, or M1A1 Thompson, etc. Excalibur01 18:48, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
PSG-1 stuff
I noted that the PSG-1 had two screencaps that are the same. Is that intentional? Thanks. Ominae 18:14, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- No it's not. Thanks for pointing that out.--Wildcards 19:01, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Ultra-nationalists?
Are they seriously called that? I thought they were just extreme left wing people Excalibur01 02:51, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Well, in the manga they are part of Mr. Takagi's right-wing group (Uyoku dantai Wiki article). I did find the term ultra-nationalist a bit awkward at first too. They are definatly extreme right wing, but not necessary ultra-nationalistic...--Wildcards 22:38, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
yeah, I'm changing it to just Right Wing group. Cause everytime I hear Untra-nationalist, I think Modern Warfare 2. Excalibur01 22:49, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- LOL. Actually, I don't think they mentioned that they are part of the Uyoku Dentai in the anime, probably just to avoid problems. Just like the part when they decided to nuke November Kilo and Romeo Charlie.--Wildcards 23:36, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
For those who knows military codes and put two and two together, November Kilo = N K = North Korea and Romeo Charlie = R C = Republic of China. Which they did nuke in the manga. I really wished we got to see the airport battle scene where we see a character with the Type 89 rifle and the custom SIG Excalibur01 02:00, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
- I believe Romeo Charlie actually probably stands for Red China. Republic of China (ROC) is the official name for Taiwan, while communist mainland China is the People's Republic of China (PRC). I'm also really disappointed that the airport scene wasn't there...I was really hoping to see it because the modified SIG shows up in the flashes during OP. --Wildcards 06:05, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Seriously, I'm taking away the "Ultra" in Nationalist. It reminds me more and more of the Russians Excalibur01 01:46, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
A similarity I found with this anime/manga and with Max Brooks' World War Z...
This observation probably wont mean a whole lot in the long run, but I thought I might add in something I noticed about the zombies in the anime/manga and how it relates to the living dead zombies in Max Brooks' World War Z...
The reason why more zombies keep showing up in all the battles the survivors have in the anime is because zombies are attracted to loud noises. Anything from unsilenced firearms, to hearing each other's moans, to the commotion of panicked survivors, any zombie within hearing radius will take notice of the sounds and come staggering over to the commotion. That is why so many of them show up in the battles that take place in the anime. And since Japan's neighborhoods are apparently so tightly packed together, that only doubles the risk of more zombies hearing any sort of commotion and joining their undead comrades wherever they are gathering to eat the living alive. --ThatoneguyJosh 04:16, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
The idea of zombies reacting to noise has been used in other media; not just Max Brooks' World War Z. Yeah, it's similar, but Max Brooks wasn't the first to use that idea, so I wouldn't go so far as to say that his book is what the writers of the manga/anime were referencing. -- K 98.118.59.151 12:39, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
- True. And of course there are several instances in George Romero's Living Dead films where the zombies are attracted to loud noises and excessive commotion, like where the survivors in the first film (both the original and the remake) barricade themselves in a house, but don't have enough ammunition or tools to hold off the living dead because more and more just keep on coming the longer they keep their panicked commotion going. I think in the post-apocalypse world of the Living Dead, stealth is another crucial key to survival. --ThatoneguyJosh 09:47, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
New OVA?
So I was browsing around the net for some information, and apparently there is an upcoming OVA of this anime that will be released soon alongside the seventh volume of the manga (U.S. release dates I'm assuming, since the pre-order date for the double package of the manga and OVA DVD was 2/10/2011), on 4/26/2011 in case anyone is interested.
The upcoming OVA with the seventh volume of the manga is titled; High School of the Dead: Drifters of the Dead. --ThatoneguyJosh 14:18, 9 March 2011 (MSK)
M1A Super Match
Calling the M1A a Super Match is incorrect. The rail system is not able to fit over a barrel heavier than a standard barrel due to a thicker diameter. Should I change M1A Super Match to M1A or leave it the way it is as the anime calls it?
AR-10(T)
Screenshots show conflicting lower receiver markings on the AR-10.
Spartan198 18:07, 18 March 2012 (CDT)
- Despite the markings on the upper picture that is an SR-25. You can tell by the design of the lower receiver (The AR-10(T) receiver is flat sided). --commando552 18:52, 18 March 2012 (CDT)
- So it's actually an SR-25 with incorrect markings on the left side only, which means Kohta originally thought it was an SR-25, before realizing it was an AR-10(T) fitted with aftermarket parts to resemble an SR-25... but it actually is an SR-25. That's bit circular. :/ Alex T Snow (talk) 04:09, 15 April 2014 (EDT)
High School of the Dead, Hey! I just notice something!
If you look at the left, you can see three different rifles, where there's a AK variant, AR variant (I think?)and a Steyr AUG (I'm sure).
- Good catches. I'm getting the bluray shortly, so I'll comb through the intro (there are a lot of very fast shots) and get nice, high quality screenshots for the page soon, as well as a couple missed guns. Also, "Highschool" is supposed to be one word, can someone fix that? Alex T Snow (talk) 03:41, 15 April 2014 (EDT)
- Can anyone ID the middle rifle that looks AR-15-ish or the revolver that looks Python-ish? Alex T Snow (talk) 05:11, 26 July 2014 (EDT)
- So, if anyone can ID the those two and possibly that rifle/shotgun that looks like a Remington 1100, we're all good. Alex T Snow (talk) 03:39, 3 August 2014 (EDT)
M1A
So, I was trying to figure out how practical a replica of this would be, and I discovered a couple problems. First, full length bottom rails for M14s aren't a thing, so that would have to be custom-attached with drilling, I've seen pictures of it done and it's not exactly difficult, so this isn't a bug deal. The second problem is the cheek riser, it's the one from the M14 DMR. In fact, it looks like the whole gun was based on the M14 DMR, especially since airsoft versions of it commonly use the KAC RAS, but they just stuck a normal M14 stock on it to be an M1A. My question is, can the DMR cheek riser be bought as a standalone piece, either real or a replica? Alex T Snow (talk) 00:56, 17 March 2014 (EDT)