Talk:Fallout 4

Once you upgrade the Combat Rifle with long barrel, .308 receiver, and full stock, it's pretty much a BAR. And the Hunting Rifle is probably based on a real rifle. as well. The Assault Rifle looks a bit like the Lewsi Gun, but I haven't got one yet.--Mandolin (talk) 10:05, 13 November 2015 (EST)

Oh, yeah, there's a .44 revolver as well.--Mandolin (talk) 10:08, 13 November 2015 (EST)

The revolver is similar to the S&W M29, which would make sense since they used that model in the previous games. The character in first person is always shown cooking the hammer between shots, but that isn't actually animated in third person.

There's something i wonder btw, in the live action intro (which doesn't have Ron Pearlman narrating for some reason :() you can see a chinese soldier holding a rifle that kinda looks like a Galil, is that the case?--AnActualAK47 (talk) 12:10, 13 November 2015 (EST)

Haven't gotten that far in the game myself, but yeah, the Galil looks like it has the folding bipod equipped (seen below), making it the Galil ARM. --Warejaws (talk) 12:58, 13 November 2015 (EST)

Have the chinese ever used Galil's or is that a stand in for whatever weapon they were using in the 50's?--AnActualAK47 (talk) 13:25, 13 November 2015 (EST)

A Chinese soldier holds a Galil ARM in the live-action intro.

No the Chinese never used Galils, the Galil went into service with the Israelis in 1972, and the Chinese used Type 56 Carbines aka the Chinese SKS and the Type 56 Chinese AKs in the 50's. Mr. Wolf (talk) 14:57, 13 November 2015 (EST)

Struck me as a bit odd for them to use that weapon in that intro. Then again, this is a game where you can have laser pistols so i guess i can gloss over it.--AnActualAK47 (talk) 15:07, 13 November 2015 (EST)

Maybe as a stand-in for the Type 81? --Funkychinaman (talk) 15:20, 13 November 2015 (EST)

Type 81's came out in the 1980's. Mr. Wolf (talk) 15:25, 13 November 2015 (EST)

Oh, and I just saw a Walther PPK (or a PPK/S) on a loading screen today. Haven't seen one in the game yet, though. --Warejaws (talk) 15:33, 13 November 2015 (EST)

It would('ve) be nice to have one of those in the game. Mr. Wolf (talk) 15:41, 13 November 2015 (EST)

The Combat Rifle looks like a PPSh-41 but with a small mag and apparently chambered in. 45 Excalibur01 (talk) 22:36, 15 November 2015 (EST)

Pipe weapons: Total fiction?

Anyone who has played this game has probably come across one of the many pipe weapons in game, weapons that have been crudely built from (as you might have guessed) pipes, sticks and other junk. What i wonder is if these types of weapons even would work in real-life.--AnActualAK47 (talk) 16:30, 13 November 2015 (EST)

I know you can build a zip gun using pipes. --Funkychinaman (talk) 16:43, 13 November 2015 (EST)

To some extent, yes, it is entirely possible to make working firearms out of scrap materials but of course they always have inherent flaws. I doubt you'd be able to make 'em like anything in Fallout 4 but I know that many third world militia's and criminal elements in the world sometime make use of home-made firearms ranging from revolvers and pistols to sub-machine guns and rifles all made out of pipes and scrap metal. While I wouldn't believe that the design of the Pipe Pistol (and its upgrades from pistol to rifle) could work, the most realistic "home-made" weapon I've found thus far appears to be the Pipe Revolver. It's chambered in .45 caliber and is single action only. Draco122 (talk) 17:21, 13 November 2015 (EST)

Well, there are some guns like the Sten that are specifically designed to be made with as little specialised tooling as possible, too. Though I do like the pipe-FG42 you can build, that's suitably silly. Evil Tim (talk) 09:35, 15 November 2015 (EST)

Weapons thus far

So my journey's into Fallout 4 and the vast number of weapons have made me try and find the most realistic looking ones so far the ones I have found are:

• .44 Revolver - Like someone above has said it resembles the S&W Model 29, however certain mods and even a unique version make it look very similar to some Dan Wesson PPC Revolvers.
• Walther PPK - Is a unique 10mm Pistol called the "Deliever", it has a permanatly affixed suppressor and uses 10mm
• Flare Gun - Appears to be based off the german Kampfpistole Z, works similar to the Radio in FNV, fire it in the air and it will summon allies to your position if they are nearby.
• Hunting Rifle - Appears to be based off the early Remington 700, a unique version called Reba II uses .50 caliber and a synthetic polymer stock and can also be modified into a pistol form
• Combat Rifle/Combat Shotgun - Both seem to use the same model, except the Combat Shotgun uses a different magazine. Initially it chambers the .45 Round, which made me think it was like supped up Reising SMG but can later be converted to .308 and function similar to a BAR.
• Double Barrel Shotgun - Mods really change this weapon, initially it appears as a short barrelled shotgun with a pistol grip but can feature sawn off barrels for increase spread (and better critical damage) or a full wooden stock and a long barrel for more concerntrated fire.
• Sniper Rifle - Haven't found one yet but it appears to be based on a Semi-Auto sniper platform.

Draco122 (talk) 17:47, 13 November 2015 (EST)

So far, the weapons that i've come across that's called sniper rifle was just the hunting rifle with a scope. The names of the weapons change depending on what mods they have.--AnActualAK47 (talk) 07:32, 14 November 2015 (EST)

You can also get it to call your weapon a sniper rifle if you give a "pipe" weapon some combination of long barrel / marksman stock / scope. It seems to work out the name of the weapon a bit like Borderlands does, only it doesn't only give the weapon the highest-order prefix. Evil Tim (talk) 09:38, 15 November 2015 (EST)

Also having seen the model for the .44 revolver, the huge beefy barrel isn't really Dan Wesson, it's just a really weirdly re-proportioned vented rib barrel turned upside-down. Evil Tim (talk) 10:48, 15 November 2015 (EST)

Remington VTR

If you upgrade the hunting rifle with the final stock and a certain barrel which makes the barrel into a triangular shape, it strongly resembles a VTR. Worth mentioning? Majorcamo (talk) 09:40, 15 November 2015 (EST)

Got a screenshot? Evil Tim (talk) 09:41, 15 November 2015 (EST)

I can get one uploaded once I'm off work, I can also do some 1st person ones of the others as well. Also, could someone move the mural guns to a non-usable section? Majorcamo (talk) 09:46, 15 November 2015 (EST)

We don't normally do that, weapons are usually documented by type rather than if you can use them or not. Evil Tim (talk) 09:51, 15 November 2015 (EST)

Alright, one last thing, the Assault Rifle in-game instantly reminded me of an MG-08 or something along those lines, even more so since it can take a drum mag. It also has a unique compensator that someone might be able to narrow it down. Majorcamo (talk) 10:02, 15 November 2015 (EST)

Haven't seen it yet, been too busy pratting around turning my pipegun into an FG42-thing :) Evil Tim (talk) 10:06, 15 November 2015 (EST)

Also, I think I have now seen that barrel you're talking about for the hunting rifle, it looks more like it's a squashed FAL handguard. Evil Tim (talk) 10:52, 15 November 2015 (EST)

I checked it, it is a VTR based stock and triangular barrel. Mr. Wolf (talk) 15:24, 15 November 2015 (EST)

For Tim. http://i.imgur.com/ghSou9r.jpg Mr. Wolf (talk) 20:19, 15 November 2015 (EST)

Huh, ok. Didn't look like it did that from the side. Guess I was figuring that from their propensity to make custom parts by randomly stretching and squashing things, like the MP7 bits on the rocket launcher. Evil Tim (talk) 20:41, 15 November 2015 (EST)