Talk:13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi

Please help ID

Please help ID. --Ben41 (talk) 01:09, 29 July 2015 (EDT)

Rifle on the left.

M110 SASS maybe? --Charon68 (talk) 06:46, 29 July 2015 (EDT) This is an HK417--CFS01 (talk) 15:05, 3 September 2015 (EDT)

PKM? --Charon68 (talk) 06:46, 29 July 2015 (EDT)

I'm pretty sure that's a 3rd gen Glock, an intermediate variant, a Glock 19 or quite possibly a Glock 23, though the slide looks a bit off (could be some kind of custom slide). The other pistol looks like the SIG P226R mentioned on the page. StanTheMan (talk) 23:50, 13 August 2015 (EDT)

That would be in keeping with these guys being former SEALs. --Charon68 (talk) 04:54, 14 August 2015 (EDT)

AR looks like a Salient Arms AR15 with their Jailbreak muzzle attachment

The Book

Just finished the book this movie is based on. The only weapons mentioned (clearly) are M4s, AKs, PKMs and a belt fed machine gun, carried by the GRS operators, that is only described as being 22lbs. with a 200 round belt so I am guessing it is/was an M249 variant. Oh and not that it's germain to the topic of this site but 'Jack Silva' is actually a pseudonym...the real guy chose anonymity when the book was being written in collaboration with the Annex Security Team. --Charon68 (talk) 19:49, 13 August 2015 (EDT)

Also weren't some of these guys Navy SEALs? I know guys in the services will always distinguish being called a Soldier, a Marine, a Sailor and an Airman. They don't like or want the one term for all guys who serve to be thrown around and consider misidentification a bit insulting. Excalibur01 (talk) 21:31, 4 November 2015 (EST)

Two of the Annex Security team members were former SEALs, three were former Marines and one was a former Ranger. One member of the 'relief' force was also a former SEAL and the others were active duty SOF. But these guys, strictly speaking, were not CIA. They were members of the Global Response Staff which, while made up of some CIA staffers, is usually comprised of former SOF operators who act as security for intelligence outposts and diplomats. My guess is the creation of that group was due to the fall from grace of Blackwater and other PMCs. --Charon68 (talk) 20:15, 5 November 2015 (EST)

Saw it tonight

Pretty intense movie. A few things that stood out were that the M4s appeared to have correct A2 flash hiders judging by their muzzle flashes, there were two Deltas with suppressed HK416 D10RS, during one scene in a market a merchant is briefly seen holding up an AKMSU with the original thumbhole forestock, and in the same scene was shown a Beretta PM12S. The Daesh militants also used mortars I couldn't ID to bombard the annex. Spartan198 (talk) 04:11, 15 January 2016 (EST)

I'm pretty sure they weren't ISIS, rather the north African Al-Qaeda cell.AgentGumby (talk) 11:13, 15 January 2016 (EST)

Then the production goofed, because they were flying Daesh's current black standard.Spartan198 (talk) 13:09, 15 January 2016 (EST)

Does Michael Bay got sponsored by Salient Arms International?

I don't mind when Transformers: Age of Extinction science-fiction got a load of Salient Arms International product placement but this? Its like when Baretta tries to convince us that the US Navy SEAL in Lone Survivor used Baretta M9 as their official sidearm. Does the operator involved in Benghazi Attack really used Salient Arms International product during actual attack? Alex Vostox (talk)

It did kinda bothered me that these really expensive guns are in this movie. Unless the contractor company the guys technically work under issued them really expensive hardware, I kinda don't believe it Excalibur01 (talk) 22:31, 24 January 2016 (EST)

According to the Feb.issue of Guns & Ammo, the anwer is no:"...Micheal Bay...wanted to show these guys were always looking to improve their kit...We wanted to have some really visually unique pieces in the film." The article is quoting Harry Humphries, the film's armorer.--Tecolote (talk) 22:44, 24 January 2016 (EST)

Look at it this way - it's a way to visually identify a certain character, especially when you have a bunch of guys with beards running around with helmets and body armor and carrying almost identical weapons. Rone's weapons were probably chosen as a way to make him stand out, especially considering he was the leader of the response team. --DeltaOne (talk) 03:59, 25 January 2016 (EST)

So I'm the only one who can actually tell these guys apart and not because of their weapons? Excalibur01 (talk) 20:15, 25 January 2016 (EST)

I also changed the AR-15 part a little bit. Apparently SAI calls this specifically variant the "GRY rifle". The Jailbreak muzzle brake and that rail was only developed in 2015 Excalibur01 (talk) 22:44, 25 January 2016 (EST)

HK417

What's with the replacement of the screen-used gun image with a stock one? Spartan198 (talk) 05:38, 25 January 2016 (EST)

No clue, i think there was a pic of it on the talk page for the 416/417 before but it's gone too. Maybe there was some legal trouble or something? Or maybe it wasn't the actual gun. Sure looked like it was the screen-used variant.--AnActualAK47 (talk) 17:33, 25 January 2016 (EST)